E90Post
 


The Tire Rack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > 124+ MPH 1/4 Mile Log



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-04-2011, 04:21 AM   #1
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
812
Rep
3,974
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

124+ MPH 1/4 Mile Log

Engine has been running very strong. Ran 124.8mph on the weekend, but the laptop was dead.

So I just backed it up with a 124.4mph and got the logs this time.

57F Calm, 29.89"
JB4 Map 3, still 55 additive, 100% Meth CM10/7, Shell 91 oct
2.5" UR DP, BMS DCI. No other engine mods.
17" Nitto, NT555R. ~3550 running weight.

Run#1 11.7 at 124.4mph, With a lousy 2.0 sec 60' (CSV 0048)
0-60: 3.5 sec, 0-100: 7.9 sec

Only difference between my previous 123.5mph runs and now is that I raised the meth boost additive from 50-55
And I switched from 91 octane Chevron to Shell VPower 91 Octane. (Don't know if that made any difference)

Edit: 11/05/2011
11.7 at 124.9 mph, 2.0 sec 60' See Post #20

0-60: 3.6 sec, 0-100: 7.9 sec
Attached Images
   
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra,
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds
2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)

Last edited by hotrod182; 11-05-2011 at 05:43 AM..
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 07:39 AM   #2
cwn23
Major
23
Rep
1,142
Posts

Drives: E92
Join Date: May 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Stock turbos. No nitrous on this run. No weight reduction and not a FBO. C'mon man. What's the deal with this as others with full bolt ons on trapping 120-121 and upgraded doing 126.
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 08:34 AM   #3
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
812
Rep
3,974
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cwn23 View Post
Stock turbos. No nitrous on this run. No weight reduction and not a FBO. C'mon man. What's the deal with this as others with full bolt ons on trapping 120-121 and upgraded doing 126.
Stock turbos, stock rear exhaust, and intercooler. 91 octane/meth, and not 20psi, lol.
Nitrous bottle not even hooked up. Weight reduction obviously at 3550lb run weight w/driver. As typical of the fastest cars, 17" DRs, Passenger seat removal. Remember, aftermarket downpipes are also quite a bit lighter than the factory units..

Remember, car trapped 129.43mph on the bottle in over 71F temps and 1500DA. Car traps over 131mph at sea level 57F in the same conditions at this run above.

If someone wants to lose money on a bet that these runs are without nitrous, and on about a .006 decline, then PM me.
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra,
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds
2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 09:31 AM   #4
RaNMaN
Enlisted Member
RaNMaN's Avatar
2
Rep
47
Posts

Drives: '08 335i '98 2jz s14
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

great, now let's see it on a real time slip from a real 1/4 mile track.
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 09:36 AM   #5
rader1
Banned
70
Rep
2,197
Posts

Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Roanoke, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaNMaN View Post
great, now let's see it on a real time slip from a real 1/4 mile track.
Lol, hotrod probably has more "real" time slips from "real" tracks than half of the people on e90post combined
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 10:02 AM   #6
Mike@N54Tuning.com
Joint Chiefs of Staff
Canada
4918
Rep
115,980
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N54tuning.com

iTrader: (89)

Nice log and nice run!

Mike
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 10:10 AM   #7
onesuperboi
Major
onesuperboi's Avatar
United_States
52
Rep
1,357
Posts

Drives: '08 e92 335i COBB 4.01 Stage 1
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bay Area, CA (Alameda)

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cwn23 View Post
Stock turbos. No nitrous on this run. No weight reduction and not a FBO. C'mon man. What's the deal with this as others with full bolt ons on trapping 120-121 and upgraded doing 126.
I agree with you. He does have a VBOX and goes to the track, but compared to everyone else out there he is still the fastest one. Maybe there is some weird vortex of energy where he lives like Sedona?
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 10:11 AM   #8
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
812
Rep
3,974
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaNMaN View Post
great, now let's see it on a real time slip from a real 1/4 mile track.
FYI, Although the VBox ETs are usually right on, some tracks may read faster traps, some a little slower. The Vbox is actually more consistent than some tracks. Sometimes I can detect which lane reads faster than the other.

Also, I have been running 123mph traps on the Vbox here for dozens and dozens of runs. Remember I reported when I had three consecutive runs at 123.5mph+ on the Vbox? I was quite happy with the perfomance, and reported it. You have to remember, even though everyone may not get the same absolute trap speeds as me, the things that improve my performance should also work for them...and so its worth reporting.

I upped the meth boost additive from 50-55mph, and changed from Chevron to Shell. I'm happy with the results. Have been getting 124mph+ traps, so I reported the findings in order to offer helpful information to the forum. Its really no big deal. Everyone thought my numbers previously were impossible, and now plenty are replicating.

Believe me, I could care less about having the best numbers on 91 octane, stock turbos, no nitrous...but I find it remarkable how well the car is performing, so I report the combination.

Most of the fastest 335i owners own or have tested their cars with a Vbox. Heck, its the same thing most magazines use to generate their numbers. Its also needed to see what your car can do traction independent (60-130 runs). Everyone is always welcome to post their results, and I wish more would.
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra,
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds
2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 12:05 PM   #9
GeorgiaTech335coupe
Lieutenant Colonel
76
Rep
1,883
Posts

Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

My friend who has JB4, FMIC, AR DP, intake, BMS meth has only trapped a best of ~115 on 93+meth at the track. Granted this is full weight, MT, and in not great FL conditions, but the disparity between the mph of your car and his is almost unbelievable. I have a VBox though, so I know how close they are to the dragstrip with ET almost dead on and MPH roughly 1mph higher. Whatever is going on, you definitely have one very fast car.
__________________
Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 12:19 PM   #10
jokergerm
Lieutenant
127
Rep
571
Posts

Drives: 2015 M6 GC
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: seattle

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335coupe View Post
My friend who has JB4, FMIC, AR DP, intake, BMS meth has only trapped a best of ~115 on 93+meth at the track. Granted this is full weight, MT, and in not great FL conditions, but the disparity between the mph of your car and his is almost unbelievable. I have a VBox though, so I know how close they are to the dragstrip with ET almost dead on and MPH roughly 1mph higher. Whatever is going on, you definitely have one very fast car.
How does the vbox compensate for the road not being flat, it may look flat but it could have a slight downward angle on it and that would make a faster trap
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 12:28 PM   #11
Longboarder
Major General
Longboarder's Avatar
3431
Rep
6,771
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW i8
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Monarch Beach

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
I have the same list of mods (chip, DCI, meth, dp's) so my car must trap around 124 as well lol jk hotrod. I'm attending a private track day and roll-on acceleration event next week (Friday the 11th) at Willow Springs with approx 50 other cars and the avg car has over 600 HP so I hope to rep the 335 community well.

I'm going to run 100 octane race gas and 75/25 meth mixture and the aggressive Proceed 11-01 maps.

They are opening up a few more spots in the afternoon for the roll-on event and it would be terrific if you hotrod could attend to see what one of the fastest 335's could do against the exotics. PM me if interested.
__________________
Current BMWs: 2022 X5 40i, 2016 X5 50i
2015 Porsche 991 Turbo S
1979 Porsche 911 Turbo (930)
a couple others
IG: longboarder949; YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT1...eoFBszPIK0gf9w
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 12:31 PM   #12
Brey335i
Banned
112
Rep
4,771
Posts

Drives: e46 ///M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (11)

I want to see a side by side run between Hotrod and Sikh
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 01:03 PM   #13
theriz
Brigadier General
United_States
406
Rep
3,583
Posts

Drives: 2017 M3
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Ventura County, CA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2017 F80 M3  [0.00]
2011 335i M-Sport  [4.00]
2015 M3  [0.00]
2009 X5  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod182 View Post
Stock turbos, stock rear exhaust, and intercooler. 91 octane/meth, and not 20psi, lol.
Nitrous bottle not even hooked up. Weight reduction obviously at 3550lb run weight w/driver. As typical of the fastest cars, 17" DRs, Passenger seat removal. Remember, aftermarket downpipes are also quite a bit lighter than the factory units..

Remember, car trapped 129.43mph on the bottle in over 71F temps and 1500DA. Car traps over 131mph at sea level 57F in the same conditions at this run above.

If someone wants to lose money on a bet that these runs are without nitrous, and on about a .006 decline, then PM me.
+1 ive seen it with my own two eyes car is a beast.
__________________
2017 F80 YMB, ZCP, ZEC, ZLP, DCT. Production Date: 7/15/16
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 02:12 PM   #14
GeorgiaTech335coupe
Lieutenant Colonel
76
Rep
1,883
Posts

Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jokergerm View Post
How does the vbox compensate for the road not being flat, it may look flat but it could have a slight downward angle on it and that would make a faster trap
It doesn't compensate your ET or mph for slope. But it does record slope so you can go back and see what it was. As far as a drag strip, I would think they are pretty flat. My VBox always reads about 1mph faster than my slip and ET is always within <0.1s (Vbox only reads one decimal place). It reads a faster trap because it is instant speed at 1320' where dragstrip is average of last 66'.

But yes a slope would increase your mph and this is a variable when comparing street runs to dragstrip runs. Hotrod says there was very little slope though which would make it comparable to a dragstrip.
__________________
Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 02:14 PM   #15
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
812
Rep
3,974
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jokergerm View Post
How does the vbox compensate for the road not being flat, it may look flat but it could have a slight downward angle on it and that would make a faster trap
Vbox measures slope. I will store the next 124mph run and show it to you. You can learn more about it in the 60-130 section....in which i currently hold the record also!
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra,
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds
2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 02:16 PM   #16
Lulz_M3
Banned
United_States
33
Rep
1,029
Posts

Drives: AW 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Jax, Fl

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cwn23 View Post
Stock turbos. No nitrous on this run. No weight reduction and not a FBO. C'mon man. What's the deal with this as others with full bolt ons on trapping 120-121 and upgraded doing 126.
It's called a Wednesday motor, dude, are you new to this or something?!lol:
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 04:51 PM   #17
Brey335i
Banned
112
Rep
4,771
Posts

Drives: e46 ///M3
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lulz_M3 View Post
It's called a Wednesday motor, dude, are you new to this or something?!lol:
Guess his Coupe was also built on a Wednesday
Appreciate 0
      11-04-2011, 06:32 PM   #18
BQTuning
Banned
United_States
469
Rep
4,392
Posts

Drives: 2012 Z4 sDrive35i M Sport 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: bq@bqtuning.com

iTrader: (0)

thats it I am going to the track again tonight
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2011, 03:20 AM   #19
SIKH335
Banned
29
Rep
968
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i Coupe
Join Date: May 2011
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
2007 E92 335i  [1.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brey335i View Post
I want to see a side by side run between Hotrod and Sikh
I will be at the private track event next Friday at Willow. I would be more than happy to have a little friendly competition with Hotrod since all his motors seem to be Wednesday motors. He is the only car runing these numbers with no FBO.

Either way Hot if you come leave the nitrous at home.
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2011, 05:37 AM   #20
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
812
Rep
3,974
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SIKH335 View Post
I will be at the private track event next Friday at Willow. I would be more than happy to have a little friendly competition with Hotrod since all his motors seem to be Wednesday motors. He is the only car runing these numbers with no FBO.

Either way Hot if you come leave the nitrous at home.
In case you haven't been reading, none of these latest tests were with the nitrous bottle in the car. And what is with that comment? They don't allow nitrous at your roll on event? Or is it that you don't want to be left standing still behind my car in a side by side comparison with me on nitrous? Please clarify what you are trying to imply by that remark. I am trapping almost 125mph on 91 oct/meth now. Post your best results, and lets see how they compare.

Wanna know how your car does traction independent? Just go do a simple, standard 60-130 run on the Vbox. I just did one right after my 124.9mph qtr mile, did it in 8.6 seconds again. Post your times up on the sticky at the top of this section, we already have a friendly competition going there. If your car can do better than a 8.6, then I will be the first to congratulate you! As we all know with roll-on competitions, you can get different results on each run. Just look at the youtube videos of my friend DLSJ5 with his supercharged M3. Wanna know what your car can really do...get some instrumented runs on a Vbox and share the results with us. Magazines, and many forum members use them, its more than good enough for your purposes. Doesn't matter if it is bad track prep/conditions. Just post your best times period. FYI: I run a 7.2 on nitrous, but I will be trying to better that soon.

Okay, so now on to my latest test numbers. 7 degrees cooler temps, everything else the same.

11.7 at 124.9mph, with a mediocre 2.0 sec 60' time.

Vbox log: Check
JB4 log: Check
Video of run: Check

Hope this clarifies any doubts. Its amazing how so many others on this forum question my results, and yet don't even post their own Vbox results/timing/boost logs/videos of their runs. For those of you who are very technical about things, you could probably figure out the time correlation of the JB4 logs, compare it to the Vbox file, and video. It is all legit.
And if you know anything about nitrous, the engine tone changes, and there is an immediate impact on timing, etc. Guarantee the nitrous bottle is not even in the car for these runs. (why carry the extra weight?). Again, if you want to put up money to prove otherwise, PM me.

So there you have it, I never would have thought this car would trap almost 125mph, on 91 octane/meth, nonetheless. The N54 is a pretty impressive piece. Still can get 30mpg on the fwy, and run 11 second qtr miles they way I drive it on the street. What a sleeper!

Attached Images
   
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra,
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds
2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2011, 07:56 AM   #21
cn555ic
cn555ic's Avatar
United_States
441
Rep
18,331
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (6)

What does the black bar in bold stand for in your graph? Wow your car is mad quick.
Appreciate 0
      11-05-2011, 08:29 AM   #22
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
812
Rep
3,974
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
What does the black bar in bold stand for in your graph? Wow your car is mad quick.
I think it is just a slidebar. If you put your mouse pointer on it and drag it the screen will scroll left and right. Will post the vbox graph showing slope when i finish my testing.
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra,
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds
2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:41 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST