Mirror Finish Method?

TreeThirtyFive · 10-28-2011, 07:09 PM

I am browsing for a local detailer and I found this website of a family owned detailing company that offer a package called "ming mirror finish" which advertises no further need for wax in the future. I guess I'll let them tell the story...

ELIMINATES WAXING
LONG LASTING SHINE
EASIER TO CLEAN
NO SPECIAL MAINTENANCE
NO RE-PROCESSING EVERY 6 MONTHS
PROTECTS PAINT AGAINST ELEMENTS
RESTORES GLOSS TO OLDER VEHICLES
INCREASE RESALE VALUE
WRITTEN THREE YEAR WARRANTY ON NEW VEHICLES

All vehicles, whether factory painted, or painted at the local paint and body shop, are spray painted. This method of application causes the paint to hit the metal surfaces and dry in hills and valleys - creating a microscopic porous surface. The Mirror Finish is a natural paint finishing process, not a chemical coating or wax, that causes the paint to smooth out, reflow and seal itself. The result is a glass-like, reflecting shine that will never need waxing on a new vehicle.

The Mirror finish begins with a thorough hand wash (or pre-wash) of the vehicle to remove bird droppings, dirt, tar and road contaminants so that the surface of the vehicle is as clean as possible before certified technicians begin the Mirror process. Step one in the process cleans out the paint's microscopic pores of embedded dirt, grime and residue wax. This cleaning procedure is achieved with the use of select chemicals, wool bonnets and special buffing techniques to the exterior painted surfaces

The second step in the Mirror process, again using specialized buffing bonnets and techniques, heats the paint causing the surface layer to reflow and seal itself, producing the unique finish that leaves no residue or coating to wear off. A second hand wash (or post-wash) is done to the vehicle to remove chemical spin-off from the tires, wheel wells, crevices, windshields, vinyl top and door jams. Next, exterior detailing which includes shampooing of the floor mats, vacuuming the carpets, cleaning the glass inside and out, emptying the ashtrays, polishing the chrome and using a silicone protective dressing on the tires and bumpers to maintain their shiny appearance is completed.,
Step three, final inspection of the vehicle, ensures that all phases of the Mirror process have been correctly completed by the certified technicians and that the vehicle is ready for delivery to its owner, with a shine that will last - GUARANTEED

So is this to be trusted?

2011328xi · 10-28-2011, 07:20 PM

This cleaning procedure is achieved with the use of select chemicals, wool bonnets and special buffing techniques to the exterior painted surfaces

The second step in the Mirror process, again using specialized buffing bonnets and techniques, heats the paint causing the surface layer to reflow and seal itself, producing the unique finish that leaves no residue or coating to wear off.

This sounds like a recipe to truely F up your paint. I have never heard of such a "process" and can't imagine that it would do even close to what they claim.

Buff it with a process that heats the paint causing it to reflow ?????? Not on my car. I would stay far away from this place.

Envious Eric · 10-28-2011, 07:24 PM

Nope! go with a true detail company

mikenap · 10-28-2011, 07:52 PM

Ming is actually the butt of a running joke within the detail community. Absolute garbage, just like the Car and Driver article that stated similar nonsense about "melting and reflowing" the clearcoat to smooth out scratches. Once applied to a car, paint won't melt and smooth itself out. You can BURN it through incorrect polishing, but otherwise it's on there for good. Any true polish uses abrasives to level the finish.

I don't know who originally started this goofy idea, but it refuses to die.

Envious Eric · 10-28-2011, 08:16 PM

do yourself a favor, hit up http://detailwerkz.com/

Royal Flush · 10-28-2011, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeThirtyFive

So is this to be trusted?

Not at all.

TreeThirtyFive · 10-29-2011, 12:03 PM

thanks for the advice guys, looked around further and decided on Concours Auto Salon based on the reviews on the detailing forums. Pricey but I'm sure they'll do an excellent job. $600 bucks for tint and detail

ceb · 10-30-2011, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeThirtyFive

.....GUARANTEED

So is this to be trusted?

Absolutely. Trusted to completely screw up your paint, requiring either lots of work to fix or a full respray.

edwinbong · 11-01-2011, 04:38 AM

There's a sucker born every minute, to think how many people may fall into this trap...

10-28-2011, 07:09 PM	#1
TreeThirtyFive New Member 1 Rep 24 Posts Drives: bmw 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Down South iTrader: (0)	Mirror Finish Method? I am browsing for a local detailer and I found this website of a family owned detailing company that offer a package called "ming mirror finish" which advertises no further need for wax in the future. I guess I'll let them tell the story... ELIMINATES WAXING LONG LASTING SHINE EASIER TO CLEAN NO SPECIAL MAINTENANCE NO RE-PROCESSING EVERY 6 MONTHS PROTECTS PAINT AGAINST ELEMENTS RESTORES GLOSS TO OLDER VEHICLES INCREASE RESALE VALUE WRITTEN THREE YEAR WARRANTY ON NEW VEHICLES All vehicles, whether factory painted, or painted at the local paint and body shop, are spray painted. This method of application causes the paint to hit the metal surfaces and dry in hills and valleys - creating a microscopic porous surface. The Mirror Finish is a natural paint finishing process, not a chemical coating or wax, that causes the paint to smooth out, reflow and seal itself. The result is a glass-like, reflecting shine that will never need waxing on a new vehicle. The Mirror finish begins with a thorough hand wash (or pre-wash) of the vehicle to remove bird droppings, dirt, tar and road contaminants so that the surface of the vehicle is as clean as possible before certified technicians begin the Mirror process. Step one in the process cleans out the paint's microscopic pores of embedded dirt, grime and residue wax. This cleaning procedure is achieved with the use of select chemicals, wool bonnets and special buffing techniques to the exterior painted surfaces The second step in the Mirror process, again using specialized buffing bonnets and techniques, heats the paint causing the surface layer to reflow and seal itself, producing the unique finish that leaves no residue or coating to wear off. A second hand wash (or post-wash) is done to the vehicle to remove chemical spin-off from the tires, wheel wells, crevices, windshields, vinyl top and door jams. Next, exterior detailing which includes shampooing of the floor mats, vacuuming the carpets, cleaning the glass inside and out, emptying the ashtrays, polishing the chrome and using a silicone protective dressing on the tires and bumpers to maintain their shiny appearance is completed., Step three, final inspection of the vehicle, ensures that all phases of the Mirror process have been correctly completed by the certified technicians and that the vehicle is ready for delivery to its owner, with a shine that will last - GUARANTEED So is this to be trusted?
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10-28-2011, 07:20 PM	#2
2011328xi Enlisted Member 1 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 2011 328i Xdrive Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: West Virginia iTrader: (0)	This cleaning procedure is achieved with the use of select chemicals, wool bonnets and special buffing techniques to the exterior painted surfaces The second step in the Mirror process, again using specialized buffing bonnets and techniques, heats the paint causing the surface layer to reflow and seal itself, producing the unique finish that leaves no residue or coating to wear off. This sounds like a recipe to truely F up your paint. I have never heard of such a "process" and can't imagine that it would do even close to what they claim. Buff it with a process that heats the paint causing it to reflow ?????? Not on my car. I would stay far away from this place.
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Envious Eric Banned 37 Rep 1,168 Posts Drives: nissan xterra, 335 soon Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: orange county, ca iTrader: (1)	Nope! go with a true detail company
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mikenap Private First Class 6 Rep 106 Posts Drives: 2004 E46 M3(sold) :( Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Charlotte/Lake Norman, NC iTrader: (1)	Ming is actually the butt of a running joke within the detail community. Absolute garbage, just like the Car and Driver article that stated similar nonsense about "melting and reflowing" the clearcoat to smooth out scratches. Once applied to a car, paint won't melt and smooth itself out. You can BURN it through incorrect polishing, but otherwise it's on there for good. Any true polish uses abrasives to level the finish. I don't know who originally started this goofy idea, but it refuses to die.
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Envious Eric Banned 37 Rep 1,168 Posts Drives: nissan xterra, 335 soon Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: orange county, ca iTrader: (1)	do yourself a favor, hit up http://detailwerkz.com/
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TreeThirtyFive New Member 1 Rep 24 Posts Drives: bmw 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Down South iTrader: (0)	thanks for the advice guys, looked around further and decided on Concours Auto Salon based on the reviews on the detailing forums. Pricey but I'm sure they'll do an excellent job. $600 bucks for tint and detail
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11-01-2011, 04:38 AM	#9
edwinbong New Member 1 Rep 8 Posts Drives: SC Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 626 iTrader: (0)	There's a sucker born every minute, to think how many people may fall into this trap...
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