Feedback on VM CSL reps with General Exclaim UHP tires

rmorin49 · 05-07-2007, 07:40 PM

I am seriously considering a set of VM CSL wheels and General Exclaim UHP tires instead of Beyern mesh wheels and Toyo Proxes 4 tires. Would like some first hand feedback from anyone running VM wheels and General tires for several thousand miles. Specifically interested in your comments on the following:

Ride as compared to OEM tires especially if you originally had RFTs

Handling as compared to OEM

Any trouble with balancing?

Durability of the wheels, any chipping, flaking, discoloration, etc.?

Thanks. Feel free to send an email or PM. Also accepting offers on my 189 wheels and RFTs. They will have only the mileage from SC to MD.

Fraggy · 05-07-2007, 07:45 PM

Ive seen some posts with guys having vibration issues with CSLs, but I dunno too much about it. Maybe they are from a different manufacturer than VM.

BigDog · 05-07-2007, 07:51 PM

had a set they were great

bmwv · 05-07-2007, 08:54 PM

I have exactly that setup on order. When I get them I will let you know.

Boooost · 05-07-2007, 09:11 PM

I've heard mixed reviews on exclaim UHPs. Please post a review when you've got em.

Stronie · 05-08-2007, 06:35 AM

Mr. M · 05-08-2007, 07:26 AM

General tires? I know you are military but it isnt a good name for UHP. =) they dont test the products as rigorously as Toyo would for example. And research on tread compound is bound to be lacking. why not CSL's with Toyo/Bridgestone?

montreal_bimmer · 05-08-2007, 08:17 AM

the general exclaim tires are great tires, people that havent had them, dont know anything about them. i told myself he same thing before buying set,
" oh general tires, how good could they be for so cheap...."

anyway, let me tell you that i have owned toyo proxes 4 and these tires are better. handling is awesome.... shares many caracteristics with any other UHP tire..... and did i mention that they weigh 5 pounds less a tire in 19" sizes compared to many other companies.

as for the wheels, dont know much about them.... but i do know that VM makes a pretty good product, and many people on this forum have VM wheels.

Viral · 05-08-2007, 04:17 PM

General's are made by Continental from what I know........can anyone confirm? The ratings on Tire Rack arer solid! I have a set right now and and am quite impressed at what you get for the money.

rmorin49 · 05-08-2007, 07:01 PM

I have Toyo Proxes 4 on my MINI and are pretty happy with them. Can't find a vendor that can provide CSL reps with Toyo tires. Neither of the forum sponsors can get Toyos so I am considering the Generals. They are getting very good reviews on Tirerack and the price is right. I am actually more concerned with the wheels. I want a nice smooth ride with no vibration. Is there any real difference in the quality of the mounting and balancing between the two vendors, you know who I am talking about. Thanks.

rmorin49 · 05-08-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwv

I have exactly that setup on order. When I get them I will let you know.

Yes, please post with your impressions and comments, pics please!

Shoushi Malouche · 05-08-2007, 08:36 PM

i can not comment about general tires but I can about velocity wheels. I had a set with goodyears on them that I could not get to run smooth at all

had them redone and balanced locally 5 times with no success, ended up throwing them in boxes and shipping them right back to velocity, i bought from J Levi and am waiting for a brand new set of wheels and tires to arrive at my place VERY soon

I dont know if it was the wheels themselves or the tires that were the problem but I can say that the quality visually of the wheel was very nice.

Driver72 · 05-08-2007, 09:04 PM

rmorin, I know you've PMed me asking about the Generals and I replied, but wanted to publicly too.
They are made by Continental.
They are excellent tires, put the name Continental or Michelin on them and they'd sell for twice the price!
There are few things in life where you get MORE than what you paid for, these tires are one of those times.
Unless you are going to a track and want or need the absolute maximum performance tires, these Generals are better than 90% of the tires out there for 50% of the price.
Get them.

FotiosF90M5 · 05-08-2007, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

rmorin, I know you've PMed me asking about the Generals and I replied, but wanted to publicly too.
They are made by Continental.
They are excellent tires, put the name Continental or Michelin on them and they'd sell for twice the price!
There are few things in life where you get MORE than what you paid for, these tires are one of those times.
Unless you are going to a track and want or need the absolute maximum performance tires, these Generals are better than 90% of the tires out there for 50% of the price.
Get them.

agreed.

Toyo · 05-12-2007, 10:23 PM

My experience with the General UHP's has been excellent. I used them on other vehicles before, with very good results. Just got another set, along with some Beyern Mesh in 19'' for my E90. Could not be happier with this setup.

rmorin49 · 05-15-2007, 06:56 PM

Would really like to see some pics of cars with Beyern mesh wheels, 18 or 19s. Am close to pulling the trigger on a setup with the General tires. Can anyone comment on Falken 512 or Kumho ASX tires. I just put a set of 512s on my MINI and I like them as well or better than the Proxes 4, at about 50% of the cost. Has anyone bought from BuyWheelsToday? They sell Beyern wheels but not General tires. Who sells Beyerns and General? Thanks.

Mr. 5 · 05-16-2007, 09:03 AM

The General UHPs have been tried and tested over in the M3forum.net community and I haven't read one negative review. I went with these tires on my GLI and they are the perfect tire. They are quiet, grippy, and inexpensive.

As far as the Velocity Wheels, Shoushi Malouche posted a thread about there being some vibration issues with the wheel/tire set up, and I'm very interested in this. I'm really hoping that there hasn't been multiple vibration issues with these since my wheels are on order. This is the first time I've heard anything about vibration problems with the wheels so I'm hoping that the problem was the tires.

white335i · 05-17-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorin49

Would really like to see some pics of cars with Beyern mesh wheels, 18 or 19s. Am close to pulling the trigger on a setup with the General tires. Can anyone comment on Falken 512 or Kumho ASX tires. I just put a set of 512s on my MINI and I like them as well or better than the Proxes 4, at about 50% of the cost. Has anyone bought from BuyWheelsToday? They sell Beyern wheels but not General tires. Who sells Beyerns and General? Thanks.

Discount tire has the beyerns and the generals on their online site. that is the set up i am going with, but i am going to get the 5's.

whitecord · 05-17-2007, 05:01 PM

i am running 225/30/19 and 265/35/19 exclaims and have no problems with them. awsome in the rain. great dry trac. they are little noisey. but the ride is like stock still.

i have a e90 with sport springs...

bmwv · 05-20-2007, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorin49

I am seriously considering a set of VM CSL wheels and General Exclaim UHP tires instead of Beyern mesh wheels and Toyo Proxes 4 tires. Would like some first hand feedback from anyone running VM wheels and General tires for several thousand miles. Specifically interested in your comments on the following:

Ride as compared to OEM tires especially if you originally had RFTs

Ride is maybe a little stiffer compared to the RFTs ( i had 16 inch wheels) but not much.

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Handling as compared to OEM

Handling is better than the RFTs. It is more neutral now. I used to have some more oversteer before.

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Any trouble with balancing?

No. The wheels came balanced. I haven't noticed any vibrations.

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Durability of the wheels, any chipping, flaking, discoloration, etc.?

Can't comment on that one I've had them just for a week.

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Thanks. Feel free to send an email or PM. Also accepting offers on my 189 wheels and RFTs. They will have only the mileage from SC to MD.

Here are couple of pictures.

rmorin49 · 05-20-2007, 09:56 AM

Very nice, thanks.

rlb · 05-20-2007, 12:23 PM

bmvw,
Those rims look great. I'm thinking of getting the same style. Where did you get the rims from? What size, offset, and tire size are you using? Any rubbing?

05-07-2007, 07:40 PM	#1
rmorin49 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	Feedback on VM CSL reps with General Exclaim UHP tires I am seriously considering a set of VM CSL wheels and General Exclaim UHP tires instead of Beyern mesh wheels and Toyo Proxes 4 tires. Would like some first hand feedback from anyone running VM wheels and General tires for several thousand miles. Specifically interested in your comments on the following: Ride as compared to OEM tires especially if you originally had RFTs Handling as compared to OEM Any trouble with balancing? Durability of the wheels, any chipping, flaking, discoloration, etc.? Thanks. Feel free to send an email or PM. Also accepting offers on my 189 wheels and RFTs. They will have only the mileage from SC to MD. __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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Fraggy Brigadier General 193 Rep 3,469 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (11)	Ive seen some posts with guys having vibration issues with CSLs, but I dunno too much about it. Maybe they are from a different manufacturer than VM. __________________ 2016 Alpine White M3 (gone) 2019 Alfa Romeo Guilia (Totaled) 2020 Car-less 😁 (no more) 2020 M340
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BigDog Major 323 Rep 1,080 Posts Drives: YMB F80 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	had a set they were great
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bmwv Second Lieutenant 108 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 325i Manual, M2 LBB DCT Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00] 2006 BMW 325i [0.00]	I have exactly that setup on order. When I get them I will let you know.
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Boooost Private First Class 2 Rep 105 Posts Drives: MK4 Supra, Alpine on black 335 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cali/Vegas iTrader: (0)	I've heard mixed reviews on exclaim UHPs. Please post a review when you've got em. __________________ BN Sports Supra... mmmm
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Mr. M TouGe Monsta 7 Rep 234 Posts Drives: On Order - its Topless! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	General tires? I know you are military but it isnt a good name for UHP. =) they dont test the products as rigorously as Toyo would for example. And research on tread compound is bound to be lacking. why not CSL's with Toyo/Bridgestone?
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05-08-2007, 08:17 AM	#8
montreal_bimmer OEMconcept 174 Rep 5,593 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada \| USA iTrader: (6) Garage List 2006 325i [10.00]	the general exclaim tires are great tires, people that havent had them, dont know anything about them. i told myself he same thing before buying set, " oh general tires, how good could they be for so cheap...." anyway, let me tell you that i have owned toyo proxes 4 and these tires are better. handling is awesome.... shares many caracteristics with any other UHP tire..... and did i mention that they weigh 5 pounds less a tire in 19" sizes compared to many other companies. as for the wheels, dont know much about them.... but i do know that VM makes a pretty good product, and many people on this forum have VM wheels.
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Viral Major 41 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC/T.O. iTrader: (1)	General's are made by Continental from what I know........can anyone confirm? The ratings on Tire Rack arer solid! I have a set right now and and am quite impressed at what you get for the money.
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rmorin49 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	I have Toyo Proxes 4 on my MINI and are pretty happy with them. Can't find a vendor that can provide CSL reps with Toyo tires. Neither of the forum sponsors can get Toyos so I am considering the Generals. They are getting very good reviews on Tirerack and the price is right. I am actually more concerned with the wheels. I want a nice smooth ride with no vibration. Is there any real difference in the quality of the mounting and balancing between the two vendors, you know who I am talking about. Thanks. __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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Shoushi Malouche Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 241 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	i can not comment about general tires but I can about velocity wheels. I had a set with goodyears on them that I could not get to run smooth at all had them redone and balanced locally 5 times with no success, ended up throwing them in boxes and shipping them right back to velocity, i bought from J Levi and am waiting for a brand new set of wheels and tires to arrive at my place VERY soon I dont know if it was the wheels themselves or the tires that were the problem but I can say that the quality visually of the wheel was very nice.
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Driver72 Brigadier General 327 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	rmorin, I know you've PMed me asking about the Generals and I replied, but wanted to publicly too. They are made by Continental. They are excellent tires, put the name Continental or Michelin on them and they'd sell for twice the price! There are few things in life where you get MORE than what you paid for, these tires are one of those times. Unless you are going to a track and want or need the absolute maximum performance tires, these Generals are better than 90% of the tires out there for 50% of the price. Get them.
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Toyo Major 17 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: 335d Titanium Silver LCI E90 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fayetteville GA iTrader: (0)	My experience with the General UHP's has been excellent. I used them on other vehicles before, with very good results. Just got another set, along with some Beyern Mesh in 19'' for my E90. Could not be happier with this setup.
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rmorin49 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	Would really like to see some pics of cars with Beyern mesh wheels, 18 or 19s. Am close to pulling the trigger on a setup with the General tires. Can anyone comment on Falken 512 or Kumho ASX tires. I just put a set of 512s on my MINI and I like them as well or better than the Proxes 4, at about 50% of the cost. Has anyone bought from BuyWheelsToday? They sell Beyern wheels but not General tires. Who sells Beyerns and General? Thanks. __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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Mr. 5 Modder Raider 753 Rep 8,633 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Surf City, HB iTrader: (31) Garage List 2007 e90 335i [8.00]	The General UHPs have been tried and tested over in the M3forum.net community and I haven't read one negative review. I went with these tires on my GLI and they are the perfect tire. They are quiet, grippy, and inexpensive. As far as the Velocity Wheels, Shoushi Malouche posted a thread about there being some vibration issues with the wheel/tire set up, and I'm very interested in this. I'm really hoping that there hasn't been multiple vibration issues with these since my wheels are on order. This is the first time I've heard anything about vibration problems with the wheels so I'm hoping that the problem was the tires. __________________ e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan e90 335i--SOLD Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
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whitecord Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 235 Posts Drives: 500whp 318ti Join Date: May 2006 Location: bonita springs iTrader: (4)	i am running 225/30/19 and 265/35/19 exclaims and have no problems with them. awsome in the rain. great dry trac. they are little noisey. but the ride is like stock still. i have a e90 with sport springs...
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rmorin49 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	Very nice, thanks. __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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05-20-2007, 12:23 PM	#22
rlb Private First Class 5 Rep 117 Posts Drives: 335i, 300ZX Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern NJ iTrader: (0)	bmvw, Those rims look great. I'm thinking of getting the same style. Where did you get the rims from? What size, offset, and tire size are you using? Any rubbing?
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