Need Help Analyzing Cobb logs please

azeemtn · 10-26-2011, 08:08 PM

Hi All,
Thanks to everyone on this board, I've learned a ton in a few short weeks.
Per the DIY's, I believe I have successfully created some Logs on Cobb Stage1 Sport with 92.5 Octane fuel in CA.
I'd like to know if I can run Sport mode in California with 91, but I first wanted to do a run with some better gas.

Attached are 2 pics I have from the DIY where I copied and pasted my results, along with 2 files attached.

The first one, with the word Advanced in it, is my data pasted into the DIY spreadhseet.
The 2nd one, with the word - "All" at the end, is all of the paramaters I pulled in case there is something that is needed in there I didn't put in the other one.

( I had to rename the 2 CSV files into .txt).

I did try to clean it up somewhat and take out the idle time, etc.

Any help in deciphering would be awesome!

Thanks

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-26-2011, 08:15 PM

too much going on in the first graph.

Keep it simple:

RPM
Boost
Throttle
Ignition (Pick 1 bank that may have timing drop outs)
AFR (Pick 1 bank that is leaner)
IAT

Or

Graph:1 RPM and Boost and Throttle
Graph:2 RPM and Ignition
Graph 3 RPM and IAT
Graph4 RPM and AFR

You really only want 3-4 sensors per graph. Otherwise it gets too busy.

acdHQK713K · 10-26-2011, 08:37 PM

92.5 octane fuel?

azeemtn · 10-26-2011, 09:11 PM

Mix of 100 and 91! I'll put up some Nte graphs tonight.

JamesM3M5 · 10-26-2011, 09:36 PM

Also helps to log just one long gear pull and one with a shift such as 3rd up to 7000 then shift to 4th. But definitely clean them up by reducing the number of channels logged in the same chart.

azeemtn · 10-26-2011, 11:48 PM

I took one gear shift out of here, and took out a bunch of the other data.
Does this help any?

I wish there was a DIY on how to make these charts..I'm doing the best I can.

thanks

enrita · 10-27-2011, 01:29 AM

are having traction issues? DCT is completely off?

azeemtn · 10-27-2011, 11:03 AM

Enrita,

DTC was not off.

I see I have a lot to learn.

Took me all night, but I've learned how to graph properly.

I'll turn off all traction control, run a pull with 2nd and 3rd gear, and report back.

Does that sound like the correct action? I am surmising the gear is not as important as the pull through the entire gear - is that correct ?

rader1 · 10-27-2011, 11:22 AM

Which DIY did you use?

azeemtn · 10-27-2011, 11:39 AM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524236

import36 · 10-27-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by azeemtn

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524236

oh wow....never knew there was a DIY with templates on here...cool!

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-27-2011, 12:18 PM

DCT off all the way. 3rd gear to 4th gear is all thats needed.

2nd gear usually has traction loss and too quick of a gear. Not enough load and heat build up.

The logs look ok so far so there really isnt any reason to pursue more logs unless you want to.

azeemtn · 10-27-2011, 01:13 PM

Thanks Jeff.
I'll finish off this tank, use CA 91, and then try a 3rd pull per your directions.

I'll put up cleaner graphs too since I think I've got the hang of dual y axis graphing now.

enrita · 10-27-2011, 01:38 PM

just run 3rd gear and 4th. 2nd gear is useless...

ar design · 10-27-2011, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

just run 3rd gear and 4th. 2nd gear is useless...

QFT

azeemtn · 10-27-2011, 01:46 PM

Can I ask where you guys are doing 3rd and 4th gear runs?

bryce · 10-27-2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azeemtn

Can I ask where you guys are doing 3rd and 4th gear runs?

mexico

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-27-2011, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azeemtn

Can I ask where you guys are doing 3rd and 4th gear runs?

A place thats safe, straight, no cops, or people....

zerep1 · 10-27-2011, 02:23 PM

not many straight road in sanjose that allow speeds of in excess of 120 lol work on the suspension it looks like you have so many twistys down here in southfl we have us27 it has a 27mile straight

10-26-2011, 08:15 PM	#2
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	too much going on in the first graph. Keep it simple: RPM Boost Throttle Ignition (Pick 1 bank that may have timing drop outs) AFR (Pick 1 bank that is leaner) IAT Or Graph:1 RPM and Boost and Throttle Graph:2 RPM and Ignition Graph 3 RPM and IAT Graph4 RPM and AFR You really only want 3-4 sensors per graph. Otherwise it gets too busy.
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acdHQK713K Major 231 Rep 1,473 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	92.5 octane fuel?
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10-26-2011, 09:11 PM	#4
azeemtn Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 231 Posts Drives: '14 m5, Space Gray Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 m5 [0.00]	Mix of 100 and 91! I'll put up some Nte graphs tonight. __________________ ------------ Everything is just for fun, and may or may not constitue real characters in actual life... ------------
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JamesM3M5 Some dude 92 Rep 1,780 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Also helps to log just one long gear pull and one with a shift such as 3rd up to 7000 then shift to 4th. But definitely clean them up by reducing the number of channels logged in the same chart. __________________ RRT E92 335i/6MT with stuff and things
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azeemtn Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 231 Posts Drives: '14 m5, Space Gray Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 m5 [0.00]	I took one gear shift out of here, and took out a bunch of the other data. Does this help any? I wish there was a DIY on how to make these charts..I'm doing the best I can. thanks Attached Images __________________ ------------ Everything is just for fun, and may or may not constitue real characters in actual life... ------------ Last edited by azeemtn; 10-27-2011 at 12:40 AM..
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	are having traction issues? DCT is completely off? __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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10-27-2011, 11:03 AM	#8
azeemtn Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 231 Posts Drives: '14 m5, Space Gray Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 m5 [0.00]	Enrita, DTC was not off. I see I have a lot to learn. Took me all night, but I've learned how to graph properly. I'll turn off all traction control, run a pull with 2nd and 3rd gear, and report back. Does that sound like the correct action? I am surmising the gear is not as important as the pull through the entire gear - is that correct ? __________________ ------------ Everything is just for fun, and may or may not constitue real characters in actual life... ------------
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10-27-2011, 11:22 AM	#9
rader1 Banned 70 Rep 2,197 Posts Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Roanoke, VA iTrader: (0)	Which DIY did you use?
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10-27-2011, 11:39 AM	#10
azeemtn Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 231 Posts Drives: '14 m5, Space Gray Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 m5 [0.00]	http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524236 __________________ ------------ Everything is just for fun, and may or may not constitue real characters in actual life... ------------
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10-27-2011, 12:18 PM	#12
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	DCT off all the way. 3rd gear to 4th gear is all thats needed. 2nd gear usually has traction loss and too quick of a gear. Not enough load and heat build up. The logs look ok so far so there really isnt any reason to pursue more logs unless you want to. Last edited by Jeff@TopGearSolutions; 10-27-2011 at 01:16 PM..
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azeemtn Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 231 Posts Drives: '14 m5, Space Gray Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 m5 [0.00]	Thanks Jeff. I'll finish off this tank, use CA 91, and then try a 3rd pull per your directions. I'll put up cleaner graphs too since I think I've got the hang of dual y axis graphing now. __________________ ------------ Everything is just for fun, and may or may not constitue real characters in actual life... ------------
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10-27-2011, 01:38 PM	#14
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	just run 3rd gear and 4th. 2nd gear is useless... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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azeemtn Second Lieutenant 33 Rep 231 Posts Drives: '14 m5, Space Gray Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 m5 [0.00]	Can I ask where you guys are doing 3rd and 4th gear runs? __________________ ------------ Everything is just for fun, and may or may not constitue real characters in actual life... ------------
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10-27-2011, 02:23 PM	#19
zerep1 Lieutenant 40 Rep 462 Posts Drives: 335i E90, 328i F30, 230i G42, Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida iTrader: (1)	not many straight road in sanjose that allow speeds of in excess of 120 lol work on the suspension it looks like you have so many twistys down here in southfl we have us27 it has a 27mile straight
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