[robl45]

Will any of these tuning solutions worth with 87 octane gas? I'm assuming the performance won't be as great, but I don't plan on using over 87 octane as its just too expensive.

[Chesmu]

is this for real?

you spend 45K on a car and squinch on gas?

1. 87 octane vs 91 octane will save you about 250.00 a year in gas. Is that much savings worth it?

2. the lower octane gas also has less detergent, which means more carbon build-up in your engine

3. carbon build-up will obviate any gains form the above mentioned tuning tools which you are willing to spend 450.00 - 1300.00 for.

4. I'm sure Vishnu does not make a map for 87 octane.

I'm confused.
Really.
Re-think the car if 20 cents a gallon is gonna ruin you.

[esbezee92]

well said chesmu

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by Chesmu

is this for real?

you spend 45K on a car and squinch on gas?

1. 87 octane vs 91 octane will save you about 250.00 a year in gas. Is that much savings worth it?

2. the lower octane gas also has less detergent, which makes means more carbon build-up in your engine

3. carbon build-up will obviate any gains form the above mentioned tuning tools which you are willing to spend 450.00 - 1300.00 for.

I'm confused.
Really.
Re-think the car if 20 cents a gallon is gonna ruin you.

+1 don't spend 45K on a car and feed it shit when steak doesn't cost much more.

[FirstClass]

Originally Posted by robl45

Will any of these tuning solutions worth with 87 octane gas? I'm assuming the performance won't be as great, but I don't plan on using over 87 octane as its just too expensive.

The car won't even run properly in stock form with 87. 89 is the bare minimum and 91 is "highly recommended".

[ulises 335i]

cheep ass....dont buy any and use your money on 91.
if the price of gas is a problem for you trade in your car for a camry hybrid

[SoCal335i]

Originally Posted by robl45

Will any of these tuning solutions worth with 87 octane gas? I'm assuming the performance won't be as great, but I don't plan on using over 87 octane as its just too expensive.

hahaha get out of the BMW forum.

[Chesmu]

Originally Posted by SoCal335i

hahaha get out of the BMW forum.

that's not nice.
And not what I'm advocating.
Just trying to educate a new member who has not yet learned to truly appreciate the German engineering marvel that is

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by robl45

Will any of these tuning solutions worth with 87 octane gas? I'm assuming the performance won't be as great, but I don't plan on using over 87 octane as its just too expensive.

No

[NaViT]

yea hes not gunna come back after he notices what he said....

[chbrules]

Yeesh, you guys are jerks. I was wondering the same thing. Why would you want to spend more mone when you don't have to? Sorry, not everyone is made of money.

[335i-SG]

Nice

[normtrum]

Originally Posted by chbrules

Yeesh, you guys are jerks. I was wondering the same thing. Why would you want to spend more mone when you don't have to? Sorry, not everyone is made of money.

ya there's no reason for anybody to get jiggety with the original question, gas prices are nuts right now. BMW's should get premium gas however. I believe they even tell ya that in the owners manual. I'm in WA state, and I've been looking all over the place for 97 octane, just to show you how anal I am about it. It's not worth risking the performance, and the longevity of your car by using 87 octane.

[ironic]

ur car won't run well on 87

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by normtrum

ya there's no reason for anybody to get jiggety with the original question, gas prices are nuts right now. BMW's should get premium gas however. I believe they even tell ya that in the owners manual. I'm in WA state, and I've been looking all over the place for 97 octane, just to show you how anal I am about it. It's not worth risking the performance, and the longevity of your car by using 87 octane.

True but it doesn't make sence to buy a 600 or 1300 dollar upgrade if you cant afford 20 cents per gallon. Lets take the average of the 2 and call it 950.00 upgade. So if he averages 21 MPG how many miles will he have to drive to save the amount he is willing to pay for the ECU upgrade?

100,000 miles or if he averages 12,000 miles per year he will save enough to pay for the mod in a mere 8.3 years.

Good idea bro:rocks:

[lawdude]

Hey, I sent him over here from Shiv's forums. I'm somewhat embarrassed by your reception. I guess I should tell others in the future to show up only if they have the hide of an elephant.

[E90ice]

Originally Posted by robl45

Will any of these tuning solutions worth with 87 octane gas? I'm assuming the performance won't be as great, but I don't plan on using over 87 octane as its just too expensive.

Do you even drive a BMW?

For a lexus, sure...go ahead and use the 87....

[jon@themshop]

With 87 octane you might or will cause some engine driveability/warranty issues. BMW put out a new bulletin in how to determine fuel quality inside the vehicle via the DME (engine ECU). If the number is out out range then the customer will be advised to use premium grade fuel.

Symptoms/complaints of low grade fuel on a BMW that requires premium fuel are low power output and hesitation.

[Jonmartin]

ROFLMAO at the OP be real..

[Dustin Bramell]

Originally Posted by jon@themshop

BMW put out a new bulletin in how to determine fuel quality inside the vehicle via the DME (engine ECU).

No kiddin' huh? Do you know how they come up with the data?

[SoCal335i]

I was kidding about my post, but serioulsy who buys a $50k car and puts shitty gas in it?

[LOLrance]

BAN!