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      09-03-2011, 01:31 PM   #1
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do those wheel cleaners really work?

you know the ones they advertise "just spray and rinse".....do they work on oem brake dust?

hre and i think mothers had a tv ad on a spray and rinse rim cleaner, anyone used it?
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the spray on rim cleaners work if you have light brake dust on your wheels, 2+ weeks of DD driving probably wouldnt come off without agitation.

For example: i live by SONAX wheels cleaner, if i wash my car every week, and spritz some QD on the wheels, i'm able to get by just using SONAX & a power washer to clean the wheels.
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the spray on rim cleaners work if you have light brake dust on your wheels, 2+ weeks of DD driving probably wouldnt come off without agitation.

For example: i live by SONAX wheels cleaner, if i wash my car every week, and spritz some QD on the wheels, i'm able to get by just using SONAX & a power washer to clean the wheels.
+10000 on sonax. As a detailer, its my number one choice
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In short - no, they don't. They work better than car shampoo on neglected wheels, but you need to rub them still. I recently tried using a clay bar on wheels - got every bit of build up off, although I spent good 2 hours on each wheel.

I wonder if there's wax suitable for wheels, since it would make a world of difference once applied to clean wheels?
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In short - no, they don't. They work better than car shampoo on neglected wheels, but you need to rub them still. I recently tried using a clay bar on wheels - got every bit of build up off, although I spent good 2 hours on each wheel.

I wonder if there's wax suitable for wheels, since it would make a world of difference once applied to clean wheels?


Wheelwax
Poorboys Wheel Sealant
Opti-Coat

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you know the ones they advertise "just spray and rinse".....do they work on oem brake dust?

hre and i think mothers had a tv ad on a spray and rinse rim cleaner, anyone used it?
Can you wash dirty grimy hands by just spraying a little soap on them and just rinsing - no physical agitation?
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Can you wash dirty grimy hands by just spraying a little soap on them and just rinsing - no physical agitation?
Hahaha, I love this analogy.
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Yup they really work, I would suggest Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner
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Some examples of wheel cleaners in action.

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Basic Cleaning Requirements - Three types of energy are required;

1. Chemical energy- provided by the synthetic cleaner
2. Mechanical energy (agitation) provided by machine or hand
3. Thermal energy -provided by warm or hot water.

Heated water breaks down water-soluble soiling faster as it reduces overall chemical usage because it reduces the surface tension. Heat acts as a catalyst promoting quicker reactions between chemicals and the soil thereby minimizing dwell time.
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The only one that's ever really worked for me is Sonax Full Effect
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will try the sonax line
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will try the sonax line
It'll be one of your best investments!
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Please don't use OTC wheel cleaners. Pick up a bottle of SONAX Full Effect and call it a day!
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I use P21S and have for years, it does require some agitation if you want them sparkly clean. Learned the hard way in the early 80's about acid wheel cleaners and such.

Opti coating my wheels really soon if I can save a few drops once I do the truck before winter. If not it'll be DG105 on the wheels. The other's work ok but do not last much longer than a month on wheels.

Ok I've been thinking this for a really long time and never spoke up so flame suit on here goes. Anyone ever think about long term affects of a cleaner that works chemically against iron and the brake components? Brake rotors are high iron content and I'd love to see down the road what a cleaner that "attacks" iron (that's the chemical change you see in the green to red color) has on those. That's my main concern with them. They work fantastic no doubt seen it with my own 4 eyes but I'll err on the safe side with the tried and true since I learned my lesson long ago.
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Please don't use OTC wheel cleaners. Pick up a bottle of SONAX Full Effect and call it a day!
this...

I wasted $5 on a OTC wheel cleaner (Black Magic I think...) and after spraying it on and rinsing it off, I wiped a spot with my finger and could see that the cleaner did absolutely nothing....
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Sonax Full Effect is amazing.
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Has anyone tried this

Has anyone tried this? Armor All, All Wheel Protectant
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some like it, I would rather use optimum opti-coat though
http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php...-Coating-P554/
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some like it, I would rather use optimum opti-coat though
http://www.detailedimage.com/wax.php...-Coating-P554/
How many cc's do you think it would take to coat all four? I have @12cc's left and the truck to do some day so I hope to have enough.
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How many cc's do you think it would take to coat all four? I have @12cc's left and the truck to do some day so I hope to have enough.
your good man! maybe 2 at most! I just did my moms 335 wheels and hardly noticed any gone
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Has anyone tried this? Armor All, All Wheel Protectant
I was wondering the same thing...

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