335i Fuel Pump Failure Poll (Stand and be Counted)

Maestro · 04-19-2007, 10:27 AM

Obviously this will not be 100% accurate, it should give us some idea how many people are having problems.

Here is how it should work:

Production date 07/06 to 12/06
Yes had a failure
No did not have a failure

Production date 01/07 to present
Yes had a failure
No did not have a Failure

For cars that have not had a failure we should limit them to any cars which have at least 5k miles since we have heard that if you have not seen the problem by then you are probably ok.

Last but not least, if you have less then 5K miles

You can select the hope and pray category

Maestro · 04-22-2007, 07:24 PM

to get some more visibility

stressdoc · 04-22-2007, 07:38 PM

The best data on this are from the backorder #s (approx 200), repairs (approx 100), and total 335s sold (12,000). I figure something like a 3% failure rate so far, which is bad but not disastrous.

Ninjaneer · 04-22-2007, 07:39 PM

E90, AT, 10/06, 13K miles - no probs and hoping and praying it stays that way

95 Z/28 LT1 · 04-22-2007, 07:45 PM

Can we add a link or info for people who don't know where to find their build date so they can respond as well?

Plan B · 04-22-2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stressdoc

The best data on this are from the backorder #s (approx 200), repairs (approx 100), and total 335s sold (12,000). I figure something like a 3% failure rate so far, which is bad but not disastrous.

+1 It's good to put things into perspective. You read enough of these, yet another pump failure thread, I can imagine some owners would get spooked and enjoy less of this excellent car.

stressdoc...not doubting, but just curious as to how you got the repaired number.

Another good thing to know is, whether or not there has been reoccurring failures. To date, I don’t think that has happened yet.

NewhouseEnt · 04-23-2007, 03:01 PM

Build date 9/06.

Miles to first crapper: 6,500

Second Failure 10,200

Stay AWAY from Shelly BMW Service. You'll end up slitting your wrists.

gonzo · 04-23-2007, 03:09 PM

e90 335. 6500 miles. starting to die. 180 on back order. $1400 if available for those interested in counter cost.

Couch · 04-23-2007, 07:13 PM

Jan. '07 production. 1575 miles. Started showing symptoms just prior to 1500.

Not happy about this and stressed out during each drive.

turbocoins · 04-23-2007, 08:40 PM

It's a good idea to keep a spare car around, just in case.

esbezee92 · 04-23-2007, 08:44 PM

dont have a 335 but just for the sake of the poll shouldnt there be a oil cooler option so we see if its only people w/o oil coolers or not

DanMardik · 04-23-2007, 08:44 PM

01/07 production date. 1500 miles. Everything good!

thealbert · 04-24-2007, 06:48 AM

10/06 production, pump died at around 1500 miles. Car's sitting at the dealer's gathering dust and waiting for a pump... Been waiting and still waiting... oh well.

docbeemer · 04-24-2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esbezee92

dont have a 335 but just for the sake of the poll shouldnt there be a oil cooler option so we see if its only people w/o oil coolers or not

Make that a separate poll if you like but I would think there is no correlation between the presence or lack of an oil cooler and the failure of the fuel pump. It would just confuse matters. My pump failed so I'm a bit emotional.

:mad:

RiXst3r · 04-24-2007, 06:59 AM

There is no connection between missing oil cooler and dead fuel pump. The fuel pump is flat out defective... nothing causes the failure, it will fail regardless

I was doing a little research... as some of you know, the pump is made by seimens. Well, seimens is in some hot water right now, one of their top exec's just jumped ship, and got some bad press, and this isnt the first time they screwed a car company with bad fuel pumps, seimens made a fuel pump for large ford diesels a while ago, and those would fail, and ford eventually issued a massive recall for all of the pumps

gonzo · 04-24-2007, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

There is no connection between missing oil cooler and dead fuel pump. The fuel pump is flat out defective... nothing causes the failure, it will fail regardless

I was doing a little research... as some of you know, the pump is made by seimens. Well, seimens is in some hot water right now, one of their top exec's just jumped ship, and got some bad press, and this isnt the first time they screwed a car company with bad fuel pumps, seimens made a fuel pump for large ford diesels a while ago, and those would fail, and ford eventually issued a massive recall for all of the pumps

Cheap bastard. I thought they were Bosch?

thealbert · 04-24-2007, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo

Cheap bastard. I thought they were Bosch?

RiXst3r is correct, the pumps in the 335i are made my Seimens.

thealbert · 04-24-2007, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

There is no connection between missing oil cooler and dead fuel pump. The fuel pump is flat out defective... nothing causes the failure, it will fail regardless

I was doing a little research... as some of you know, the pump is made by seimens. Well, seimens is in some hot water right now, one of their top exec's just jumped ship, and got some bad press, and this isnt the first time they screwed a car company with bad fuel pumps, seimens made a fuel pump for large ford diesels a while ago, and those would fail, and ford eventually issued a massive recall for all of the pumps

Interesting how he's jumped shipped. Just goes to show that there's REALLY something wrong with our pumps or at least something's wrong within the company itself which may have something to do with our bad pumps... Hope he gets hanged... :rocks: Sorry, that wasn't right... hope they ALL get hanged!!!

hehehehehheee

Wile E. · 04-24-2007, 08:19 AM

Mine went bad last week @ 5300 miles. On average, how long have people been waiting for pump replacement??

mesier1111 · 04-24-2007, 08:40 AM

Mine went bad about two weeks ago, I had 8800 miles on mine, but most of those miles were during teh winter when I had winter tires on her so I couldn't driver her hard, as soon as I started driving her really hard, she went limp within 1000 miles. She is a 06/06 build.

Will be waiting for 6 weeks...........

RiXst3r · 04-24-2007, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E.

Mine went bad last week @ 5300 miles. On average, how long have people been waiting for pump replacement??

2-6 weeks, so 4 weeks on average

thealbert · 04-24-2007, 06:58 PM

I've been waiting for 3 weeks already.

View Poll Results: Have you had a Fuel Pump Failure
Production Prior 01/07 - Yes I did	23	20.18%
Production Prior 01/07 - No I did not	46	40.35%
Production 01/07 to Present - Yes I did	5	4.39%
Production 01/07 to Present - No I did not	18	15.79%
Hope and Praying	22	19.30%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

04-19-2007, 10:27 AM	#1
Maestro Major 1013 Rep 1,268 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Sedan, 2021 X3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	335i Fuel Pump Failure Poll (Stand and be Counted) Obviously this will not be 100% accurate, it should give us some idea how many people are having problems. Here is how it should work: Production date 07/06 to 12/06 Yes had a failure No did not have a failure Production date 01/07 to present Yes had a failure No did not have a Failure For cars that have not had a failure we should limit them to any cars which have at least 5k miles since we have heard that if you have not seen the problem by then you are probably ok. Last but not least, if you have less then 5K miles You can select the hope and pray category
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Maestro Major 1013 Rep 1,268 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Sedan, 2021 X3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	to get some more visibility
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04-22-2007, 07:38 PM	#3
stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	The best data on this are from the backorder #s (approx 200), repairs (approx 100), and total 335s sold (12,000). I figure something like a 3% failure rate so far, which is bad but not disastrous. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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Ninjaneer Shadow Warrior 139 Rep 2,095 Posts Drives: '07 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	E90, AT, 10/06, 13K miles - no probs and hoping and praying it stays that way __________________ 335i E90 / Arctic / Gray / Burl Walnut / Steptronic / ZPP / ZSP / Paddles / CA / Nav / PDC / OEM Spoiler Mods: PIAA Angel Eyes, Rear Fog Switch, Escort X50 Blue hardwire, 30% Charcoal Llumar Installing soon: Rear Power Outlets (Happy Robot mod!)
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04-23-2007, 03:01 PM	#7
NewhouseEnt Second Lieutenant 48 Rep 228 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: none iTrader: (0)	Second Fuel Pump Failure Build date 9/06. Miles to first crapper: 6,500 Second Failure 10,200 Stay AWAY from Shelly BMW Service. You'll end up slitting your wrists.
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04-23-2007, 03:09 PM	#8
gonzo Lieutenant General 10202 Rep 14,398 Posts Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas iTrader: (0)	e90 335. 6500 miles. starting to die. 180 on back order. $1400 if available for those interested in counter cost. __________________ Crazy Diamond
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04-23-2007, 07:13 PM	#9
Couch Colonel 142 Rep 2,900 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	Jan. '07 production. 1575 miles. Started showing symptoms just prior to 1500. Not happy about this and stressed out during each drive.
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turbocoins Captain 18 Rep 749 Posts Drives: '08 Z06, '07 MKZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warm Climate iTrader: (0)	It's a good idea to keep a spare car around, just in case.
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04-23-2007, 08:44 PM	#11
esbezee92 Lieutenant 8 Rep 499 Posts Drives: Montego 328i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	dont have a 335 but just for the sake of the poll shouldnt there be a oil cooler option so we see if its only people w/o oil coolers or not
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04-23-2007, 08:44 PM	#12
DanMardik Captain 17 Rep 729 Posts Drives: 08 INFINITI G37S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	01/07 production date. 1500 miles. Everything good! __________________ *RIP 2007 335i Sedan*
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04-24-2007, 06:48 AM	#13
thealbert Lieutenant 32 Rep 420 Posts Drives: G20 M340i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Home Sweet Home iTrader: (0)	10/06 production, pump died at around 1500 miles. Car's sitting at the dealer's gathering dust and waiting for a pump... Been waiting and still waiting... oh well.
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04-24-2007, 06:59 AM	#15
RiXst3r 274 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	There is no connection between missing oil cooler and dead fuel pump. The fuel pump is flat out defective... nothing causes the failure, it will fail regardless I was doing a little research... as some of you know, the pump is made by seimens. Well, seimens is in some hot water right now, one of their top exec's just jumped ship, and got some bad press, and this isnt the first time they screwed a car company with bad fuel pumps, seimens made a fuel pump for large ford diesels a while ago, and those would fail, and ford eventually issued a massive recall for all of the pumps
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04-24-2007, 08:19 AM	#19
Wile E. Enlisted Member 2 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Mine went bad last week @ 5300 miles. On average, how long have people been waiting for pump replacement??
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04-24-2007, 08:40 AM	#20
mesier1111 Banned 38 Rep 1,626 Posts Drives: 335i coupe, titanium Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bucks County, PA iTrader: (0)	Mine went bad about two weeks ago, I had 8800 miles on mine, but most of those miles were during teh winter when I had winter tires on her so I couldn't driver her hard, as soon as I started driving her really hard, she went limp within 1000 miles. She is a 06/06 build. Will be waiting for 6 weeks...........
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04-24-2007, 06:58 PM	#22
thealbert Lieutenant 32 Rep 420 Posts Drives: G20 M340i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Home Sweet Home iTrader: (0)	I've been waiting for 3 weeks already.
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