My 335 feels slow now

charlie335 · 04-16-2007, 03:15 PM

i'm at 7600 kms, had the oil changed at 6000km and i've done nothing to the car except cosmetics and for some reason it's a lot slower now

i feel reduced throttle response
and the car doesn't pull until 3k

at first i thought i had just gotten used to the car but when i traded 335's w/ a friend i noticed that his car was faster and he noticed that mine was slower.

so im in a real pickle here... no check engine lights or anything.

got any ideas?

Insider · 04-16-2007, 03:17 PM

Probably your fuel pump.

Brunotheboxer · 04-16-2007, 03:18 PM

your fuel pump could be on the way out.

335i black rider · 04-16-2007, 03:20 PM

injectio failure ?

charlie335 · 04-16-2007, 03:20 PM

oh god... are you kidding me? should i take it to the dealer and pretend that the check engine light came on so they'll go through my car?

Brunotheboxer · 04-16-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie335

oh god... are you kidding me? should i take it to the dealer and pretend that the check engine light came on so they'll go through my car?

i would take it to the dealer and tell them what you stated here. No need to lie about a check engine light. if they are a good dealer they will go through the car anyway.

charlie335 · 04-16-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

i would take it to the dealer and tell them what you stated here. No need to lie about a check engine light. if they are a good dealer they will go through the car anyway.

i mentioned these problems when i brought the car in for an oil change but the guy said it felt fine when he drove it, which is pretty much bs because all he did was put it into first and drive it into the garage or w/e.

Brunotheboxer · 04-16-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie335

i mentioned these problems when i brought the car in for an oil change but the guy said it felt fine when he drove it, which is pretty much bs because all he did was put it into first and drive it into the garage or w/e.

Go over his head.

charlie335 · 04-16-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Go over his head.

alrighty. im gonna call them right now and demand that they look over my car

oh and your dog looks cute as hell in the sig lol

IMJUSS2NASTY · 04-16-2007, 03:38 PM

After Driving My Vehicle For 2 Months. I Felt Like It Slowed Down Alot. I Thought Maybe It Was Just Me. Can This Really Be A Fuel Pump Issue? I'm Considering To Have My Car Dynoed To Know Exactly Whats Going On. If It Puts Out Around 260-275 Hp To The Wheels Stock Then Obviously Its Just Me Getting Used To The Car.

Carnage · 04-16-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

i would take it to the dealer and tell them what you stated here. No need to lie about a check engine light. if they are a good dealer they will go through the car anyway.

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Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Go over his head.

+1 . Don't BS around with them. If the 1st person's work doesn't fufill your expections then go to the next person up on the food chain.

Walked U · 04-16-2007, 03:40 PM

You getting use to the power. I have the same problem.

I had to install a boost gauge in my car because i thought my car wasnt boosting properly. Funny enough my car got faster.

IMJUSS2NASTY · 04-16-2007, 03:43 PM

Charlie, Let Us Know How It Goes Because Im Dealing With The Same Issues. I Must Say Though, I Raced A Benz Clk430 And A Lexus Ls 430, And Tore Them Up On The Highway. No Contest. They Were Eaten Alive!!!!

DrDomer · 04-16-2007, 03:44 PM

Go rent a Hyundai. They claim to be better than a BMW 525i. Drive it for a week. Don't cheat and drive your car. Return the Hyundai. Go back and drive your 335i. Enjoy how much faster your car got by sitting in your driveway.

charlie335 · 04-16-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Walked U

You getting use to the power. I have the same problem.

I had to install a boost gauge in my car because i thought my car wasnt boosting properly. Funny enough my car got faster.

that's what i thought too, but i drove my friend's 335 the other day and it felt faster... so i have no idea what's going on.

but +1 on the boost gauge thing. i guess even when i drove my friend's car my mind was already set that there was something wrong w/ my car and so it made the experience in his car feel faster.

i think im still going to get bmw to look over it though. thanks guys!

dhmilosr · 04-16-2007, 07:56 PM

There are two tests that can be run on a fuel pump to determine if its working properly. The pressure test is run when a pressure gauge is put inline with the fuel pump and the car is running. The second is a volume test where the pump is run for a predetermned time and the volume of gas is measured. This is science. You don't have to go by a feeling.

vase330 · 04-17-2007, 06:57 PM

Ok, I know its a 330ci and you have a 335i. But gotta say both are BMWs and I would be very surprised if the go pedal electronics are any different at all. Probably same pedal, solenoid, module etc. Now my 330 is a rousy P.O.S (Yes its true. Love BMW and even got the 335i coupe, but no lie my 330 if only it could tell tales...) so maybe this does not apply to the newer cars. But I have had this crap happen over and over and I gave up fixing it. It doesn't get much worse than just slowing the car though. Its drive by wire pedal. The voltage reading from the solenoid on the pedal is off when compared with the throttle position sensor. Trust me, my dealer thought I was hearing voices first time I complained, but turns out (they don't know why either), every time they replace the damn sensor and throttle solenoid, it fixes the issue, and the voltage reading moves in synch when you accerelate the car (Yes then can be tested with the car stationary through the ODBII port). It only takes couple thousand miles for the problem to reccur though, so you just get used to the sluggish throttle. Sometimes its so bad the voltage is off by 50%!!! And car is real slow then. But for some weird reason it never gets much worse than that. This readily show up in their diagnostics computer as a defective accerelator. I think its actually something else that triggerings it, but have no idea what. Get your car checked. This only started happening in my 330 when I was close to 90K miles. IMO its unacceptable in brand new vehicle. Go get checked.

Driver72 · 04-17-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJUSS2NASTY

Charlie, Let Us Know How It Goes Because Im Dealing With The Same Issues. I Must Say Though, I Raced A Benz Clk430 And A Lexus Ls 430, And Tore Them Up On The Highway. No Contest. They Were Eaten Alive!!!!

Just curious, how long does it take you to type a couple sentences like that with the first letter of every word capitalized?

Clem · 04-17-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver72

Just curious, how long does it take you to type a couple sentences like that with the first letter of every word capitalized?

Good Question! I Know I've Never Been Able To Do It.

sinnet112 · 04-17-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver72

Just curious, how long does it take you to type a couple sentences like that with the first letter of every word capitalized?

Actually, I think some computers are set like that, especially office ones. I've had that experience before lol. Quite strange, and it's rather weird reading my writing where I type lower case but it shifts itself...

IMJUSS2NASTY · 04-17-2007, 08:01 PM

Actually If You Type It All In Caps, The System Will Only Cap The First Letter Of Every Word. Give It A Try.

IMJUSS2NASTY · 04-17-2007, 08:01 PM

And Yes Sinnet, I Am One This Website All Day While Im At Work.

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charlie335 Shiodome Redeveloper 21 Rep 762 Posts Drives: lawllercoaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, BC iTrader: (1)	My 335 feels slow now i'm at 7600 kms, had the oil changed at 6000km and i've done nothing to the car except cosmetics and for some reason it's a lot slower now i feel reduced throttle response and the car doesn't pull until 3k at first i thought i had just gotten used to the car but when i traded 335's w/ a friend i noticed that his car was faster and he noticed that mine was slower. so im in a real pickle here... no check engine lights or anything. got any ideas? __________________ 2006 E63 M6, Alpine White/Indianapolis Red 2007 E92 335i, Space Gray, 6MT, ZSP, BMW Performance Shifter/Boot, CF Wrapped Trim, Aero Lip, M3 Sideskirts, Mtech Rear, CF Diffuser, Custom Quads, FK Silverline X, iForged Essen 2008 GSX-R750, Blue/White, Power Commander, Straight Pipe 2011 BMW S1000RR, Akrapovic Evolution
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charlie335 Shiodome Redeveloper 21 Rep 762 Posts Drives: lawllercoaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, BC iTrader: (1)	oh god... are you kidding me? should i take it to the dealer and pretend that the check engine light came on so they'll go through my car? __________________ 2006 E63 M6, Alpine White/Indianapolis Red 2007 E92 335i, Space Gray, 6MT, ZSP, BMW Performance Shifter/Boot, CF Wrapped Trim, Aero Lip, M3 Sideskirts, Mtech Rear, CF Diffuser, Custom Quads, FK Silverline X, iForged Essen 2008 GSX-R750, Blue/White, Power Commander, Straight Pipe 2011 BMW S1000RR, Akrapovic Evolution
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IMJUSS2NASTY Banned 22 Rep 579 Posts Drives: BMW 335I MONTEGO BLUE Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	After Driving My Vehicle For 2 Months. I Felt Like It Slowed Down Alot. I Thought Maybe It Was Just Me. Can This Really Be A Fuel Pump Issue? I'm Considering To Have My Car Dynoed To Know Exactly Whats Going On. If It Puts Out Around 260-275 Hp To The Wheels Stock Then Obviously Its Just Me Getting Used To The Car.
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Walked U Brigadier General 179 Rep 3,125 Posts Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (5)	You getting use to the power. I have the same problem. I had to install a boost gauge in my car because i thought my car wasnt boosting properly. Funny enough my car got faster. __________________ Previous - E90 335i, E82 135i, E89 Z4 3.5SI, Range Rover S/C, Ultra White RCF, Maserati Granturismo Current Lexus: SMG LC500 performance package Porsche:1973 911E Ferrari 575 SA, 458 Italia
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IMJUSS2NASTY Banned 22 Rep 579 Posts Drives: BMW 335I MONTEGO BLUE Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Charlie, Let Us Know How It Goes Because Im Dealing With The Same Issues. I Must Say Though, I Raced A Benz Clk430 And A Lexus Ls 430, And Tore Them Up On The Highway. No Contest. They Were Eaten Alive!!!!
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DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Go rent a Hyundai. They claim to be better than a BMW 525i. Drive it for a week. Don't cheat and drive your car. Return the Hyundai. Go back and drive your 335i. Enjoy how much faster your car got by sitting in your driveway. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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dhmilosr Private First Class 1 Rep 106 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Montego Blue Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	There are two tests that can be run on a fuel pump to determine if its working properly. The pressure test is run when a pressure gauge is put inline with the fuel pump and the car is running. The second is a volume test where the pump is run for a predetermned time and the volume of gas is measured. This is science. You don't have to go by a feeling.
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vase330 Colonel 102 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	Now my E46 330ci has this problem consistently. So maybe.... Ok, I know its a 330ci and you have a 335i. But gotta say both are BMWs and I would be very surprised if the go pedal electronics are any different at all. Probably same pedal, solenoid, module etc. Now my 330 is a rousy P.O.S (Yes its true. Love BMW and even got the 335i coupe, but no lie my 330 if only it could tell tales...) so maybe this does not apply to the newer cars. But I have had this crap happen over and over and I gave up fixing it. It doesn't get much worse than just slowing the car though. Its drive by wire pedal. The voltage reading from the solenoid on the pedal is off when compared with the throttle position sensor. Trust me, my dealer thought I was hearing voices first time I complained, but turns out (they don't know why either), every time they replace the damn sensor and throttle solenoid, it fixes the issue, and the voltage reading moves in synch when you accerelate the car (Yes then can be tested with the car stationary through the ODBII port). It only takes couple thousand miles for the problem to reccur though, so you just get used to the sluggish throttle. Sometimes its so bad the voltage is off by 50%!!! And car is real slow then. But for some weird reason it never gets much worse than that. This readily show up in their diagnostics computer as a defective accerelator. I think its actually something else that triggerings it, but have no idea what. Get your car checked. This only started happening in my 330 when I was close to 90K miles. IMO its unacceptable in brand new vehicle. Go get checked. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede.
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