BEWARE?? AMS FMIC Problem

domrep · 06-15-2011, 11:12 AM

Weather got hot last week and turned on the A/C. 15 min later no cold air and still sweating balls. no problem, figure it's just a warranty fix. Dealership calls me and tells me my FMIC piping has been rubbing against the A/C lines and burned a hole right through it? 989+tax to fix (obviously wont fix it @ dealership), but wtf? Is this an install problem? I dont see how else you can install it differently...anybody see anything similar?

vasillalov · 06-15-2011, 11:20 AM

Shiit. Take it to a welder and have them put a small weld on the hole of your AC line. Then see if you can adjust your intercooler pipes.

forza1976 · 06-15-2011, 12:05 PM

yikes, man that is unfortunate.

NM_BMW · 06-15-2011, 12:16 PM

Is that from the top of the engine bay?

Kevin@AKMotorwerk · 06-15-2011, 12:18 PM

it looks more like the placement of the hose clamp was the problem not the actual tube off the fmic.

MDORPHN · 06-15-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vasillalov

Shiit. Take it to a welder and have them put a small weld on the hole of your AC line. Then see if you can adjust your intercooler pipes.

That's pretty thin aluminum.

You'd need a skilled TIG welder to deal with that.

Neil

Syndicategt · 06-15-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Humtek

Is that from the top of the engine bay?

Appears to be right next to the DV at the top, I see his are capped off for a BOV.

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Originally Posted by Kevin@AKMotorwerk

it looks more like the placement of the hose clamp was the problem not the actual tube off the fmic.

+1 Worm clamp was definately rubbing.

E90SoFlo · 06-15-2011, 12:20 PM

Crazy that just a clamp could shut down the entire AC.. Hope you get if fixed OP

C4sF80M3 · 06-15-2011, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Shiit. Take it to a welder and have them put a small weld on the hole of your AC line. Then see if you can adjust your intercooler pipes.

Agreed. Just weld it. It's thin metal, but still doable.

Express · 06-15-2011, 12:38 PM

common problem in G35's.

surprised to see it here!

smokinHawk · 06-15-2011, 12:42 PM

Replace Line, Wrap Line To Protect.
Dont Weld It, If You Do How Are You Going To Pressure Test It?

escobar929 · 06-15-2011, 12:44 PM

^that

another option would be if you know any place that does a/c work, have them make you another line and reroute it somewhere safe

wren57 · 06-15-2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinHawk

Replace Line, Wrap Line To Protect.
Dont Weld It, If You Do How Are You Going To Pressure Test It?

Quote:

Originally Posted by escobar929

^that

another option would be if you know any place that does a/c work, have them make you another line and reroute it somewhere safe

Good advice here.

tibra1 · 06-15-2011, 12:58 PM

Who installed it for you in the first place?> why not go back to them?

Shit im gonna check my clamps and piping right after work

Kevin@AKMotorwerk · 06-15-2011, 01:00 PM

just replace the line, recharge the ac, and make sure the screw clamping edge of the clamp is opposite the line, it could be the angle of the picture, but it looks like there is a few mm of space between the tube and the ac hose

s2k_335i · 06-15-2011, 01:02 PM

I had the AMS for about 6 months and I do not see any issue. Like people mentioned here, maybe the clamp was rubbing against the pipe for a long period of time to produce the damaged?
How long you had it installed?

ZTZ1010 · 06-15-2011, 01:04 PM

Shit. Had an issue during a long drive last week with little/no cold air as well, though i've got the ETS fmic. wonder if it's a similar issue/installation related......

only1 · 06-15-2011, 01:05 PM

I've had my ams fmic for almost 2 years and i've never had an issue.

domrep · 06-15-2011, 01:57 PM

You may be right, have not taken a good look at the car myself, this is a pic my SA snapped for me at the dealership and car is still there.

I think at this point instead of replacing the line my other mechanic is going to weld it for me and then reinforce it with aluminum + wrap. He will pressure test the system afterwards. This may be a better alternative to prevent smth like this happening again...unless anyone sees anything negative with it? Welding is a stronger/better alternative, i've heard not alot of shops will do it for you because it takes longer and they make less.

Let this be a heads up to any of you guys out there to ensure there's no rubbing.

Also, when he recharges it he plans to use redtek, anyone have any experience/heard of it?

crazytaiwanese · 06-15-2011, 02:19 PM

thanks op for the warning, im going to check my pipes to see if they are far apart.

cssnms · 06-15-2011, 02:51 PM

Sounds like it's time for some Rescue Tape! At least temporarily anyway.

Kevin@AKMotorwerk · 06-15-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cssnms

Sounds like it's time for some Rescue Tape! At least temporarily anyway.

maybe some mighty putty lol

hey op, get a new tube/hose for the ac, don't chance welding it, its not worth the labor down the road if it decides to leak slowly and you need a new hose and recharge

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Kevin@AKMotorwerk General 290 Rep 28,154 Posts Drives: THE GUY YOU LOVE TO HATE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: hillsborough, nj iTrader: (1)	just replace the line, recharge the ac, and make sure the screw clamping edge of the clamp is opposite the line, it could be the angle of the picture, but it looks like there is a few mm of space between the tube and the ac hose
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only1 Lieutenant 28 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 07 Z06, 09 e90335i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Markham iTrader: (5)	I've had my ams fmic for almost 2 years and i've never had an issue.
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domrep Captain 42 Rep 993 Posts Drives: AW E93 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (3)	You may be right, have not taken a good look at the car myself, this is a pic my SA snapped for me at the dealership and car is still there. I think at this point instead of replacing the line my other mechanic is going to weld it for me and then reinforce it with aluminum + wrap. He will pressure test the system afterwards. This may be a better alternative to prevent smth like this happening again...unless anyone sees anything negative with it? Welding is a stronger/better alternative, i've heard not alot of shops will do it for you because it takes longer and they make less. Let this be a heads up to any of you guys out there to ensure there's no rubbing. Also, when he recharges it he plans to use redtek, anyone have any experience/heard of it?
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crazytaiwanese Lieutenant 22 Rep 407 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	thanks op for the warning, im going to check my pipes to see if they are far apart.
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