...... ......H&R Coil Over VS Bilstein PSS9...... ......

M-Power · 03-17-2007, 06:11 AM

I wanna select the one of this 2 brand on my E90 330i, H&R Coil Over or Bilstein PSS9.
need some opinions and recommendation from you guys. which one will you to be selected?

thanks a lot!

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montreal_bimmer · 03-17-2007, 12:58 PM

Bilstein PSS9

FKNBD808BMR · 03-18-2007, 12:29 AM

how about kw's??

montreal_bimmer · 03-18-2007, 11:15 AM

true, KW V2's are great coilovers too

s4iscool · 03-18-2007, 12:58 PM

i had the pss9s on my TT, and man were they the biggest POS ever. Well confirmed that they did zero r&d on that application, so I lost all trust in them. the rear springs made rattling and sqeeking noises, had limited adjustability, and their tech recommended turning up the stereo to fix the noises.

never had problems with my 3 HR coilover applications (S4, TT, C32).

remmib · 03-18-2007, 04:49 PM

Im waiting for my kw v2

ironic · 03-18-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4iscool

i had the pss9s on my TT, and man were they the biggest POS ever. Well confirmed that they did zero r&d on that application, so I lost all trust in them. the rear springs made rattling and sqeeking noises, had limited adjustability, and their tech recommended turning up the stereo to fix the noises.

never had problems with my 3 HR coilover applications (S4, TT, C32).

LOL serious about that radio bit?

s4iscool · 03-18-2007, 05:11 PM

Serious, the NA Bilstein tech.engineer "Udo" was his name.

BHairsto · 03-19-2007, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4iscool

i had the pss9s on my TT, and man were they the biggest POS ever. Well confirmed that they did zero r&d on that application, so I lost all trust in them. the rear springs made rattling and sqeeking noises, had limited adjustability, and their tech recommended turning up the stereo to fix the noises.

never had problems with my 3 HR coilover applications (S4, TT, C32).

Wow, that's strange--I had the exact opposite experience on my M3. I absolutely loved my PSS9s, and now I won't use anything else. They were a huge improvement over the Koni/Eibach combo I previously had on the car.

Adham · 03-19-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4iscool

i had the pss9s on my TT, and man were they the biggest POS ever. Well confirmed that they did zero r&d on that application, so I lost all trust in them. the rear springs made rattling and sqeeking noises, had limited adjustability, and their tech recommended turning up the stereo to fix the noises.

never had problems with my 3 HR coilover applications (S4, TT, C32).

I liked the PSS9s while i had them. i tracked the hell out of them and the only problem i had was that one of the rear shock's damper adjuster broke. since i bought through turner motorsport i went through them to replace it, and they charged me nothing. however, tms did say that bilstein gave them a crazy runaround and was trying to charge them $800 for one shock!

s4iscool · 03-19-2007, 10:56 AM

thats why i was so disappointed, the name Bilstein is well known in racing applications around the world, but when it came to doing real R&D, instead of slapping together parts they already had, or copy a flawed competitors product, they failed. It took H&R 2 or 3 iterations to get the TT's setup just right, but they at least acknowledged the issues and make revisions.

im sure the pss9s are just great on some cars, but my personal experience was horrible, and only after I threatened legal action, I had them refunded.

Evan@Creative · 03-19-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by montreal_bimmer

true, KW V2's are great coilovers too

+1 KW's are better than both

S4to335 · 03-20-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan@Creative

+1 KW's are better than both

Ah...how so...I dont buy it. I have had H&R coilovers on five of my Audis..and have PSS9s on my current Audi. I have installed and ridden in several KW1, KW2 equipped cars...I am not that impressed with what I have felt so far.

Adham · 03-20-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

Ah...how so...I dont buy it. I have had H&R coilovers on five of my Audis..and have PSS9s on my current Audi. I have installed and ridden in several KW1, KW2 equipped cars...I am not that impressed with what I have felt so far.

I think the pss9s, H&R, and KWs are all very similar in fit and finish, performance, and overall quality. Aftermarket suspension is a competitive market, so i think the kits all come out very close to each other. Where the decisions should be made are in the customer service, and what type of kit you want. do you want a progressive spring rate? adjustable damping? adjustable rebound? how heavy do you want your springs? These are the things that should affect your decision, i think.

Evan@Creative · 03-20-2007, 08:12 PM

I like KW because of the lifetime warranty.

M-Power · 03-20-2007, 09:44 PM

Many thanks all of u guys!

if i select PSS9 for my e90 330, for the nine level for adjustable damping,
is there have a regular no for front and rear? or the proportion of front and rear?

TIA

SoCal335i · 03-21-2007, 01:58 AM

I have PSS9's on my 335 and i think they are great! Very easy to adjust height and damper settings. After i saw that KW uses plastic rings to adjust the height on their coils i didnt even consider them. H & R always made good products too but they dont have as many adjustments on the E92 coilovers.

S4to335 · 03-21-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-Power

Many thanks all of u guys!

if i select PSS9 for my e90 330, for the nine level for adjustable damping,
is there have a regular no for front and rear? or the proportion of front and rear?

TIA

I had PSS9s on my Audi...set at 6 in front and 4 in rear. Setting them at 9 is the least dampening. I would try that setting and go from there.

Adham · 03-21-2007, 12:12 PM

i would be on 6 all around for city driving and 9 all around for track. I didnt have as big a problem as some with the factory understeer because i had a big rear sway bar. I tried lots of different combos but really they just feel either soft, medium, or hard. Haha.

S4to335 · 03-21-2007, 01:33 PM

For the audi setup..the 9 setting is the most pliant..not the stiff setting. It it opposite for the E90? 1 is the stiffest for the Audi application.

Adham · 03-21-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

For the audi setup..the 9 setting is the most pliant..not the stiff setting. It it opposite for the E90? 1 is the stiffest for the Audi application.

9 was stiffest on the E46 application. thats weird bc i wouldn't think they would reverse it ...

ibd12nv · 03-21-2007, 02:47 PM

i have pss9 on my VW. i love the ride.

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s4iscool Major 26 Rep 1,138 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Neccos iTrader: (2)	thats why i was so disappointed, the name Bilstein is well known in racing applications around the world, but when it came to doing real R&D, instead of slapping together parts they already had, or copy a flawed competitors product, they failed. It took H&R 2 or 3 iterations to get the TT's setup just right, but they at least acknowledged the issues and make revisions. im sure the pss9s are just great on some cars, but my personal experience was horrible, and only after I threatened legal action, I had them refunded.
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M-Power Enlisted Member 11 Rep 49 Posts Drives: e92 330i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Many thanks all of u guys! if i select PSS9 for my e90 330, for the nine level for adjustable damping, is there have a regular no for front and rear? or the proportion of front and rear? TIA __________________
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Adham Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 243 Posts Drives: 335i sedan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	i would be on 6 all around for city driving and 9 all around for track. I didnt have as big a problem as some with the factory understeer because i had a big rear sway bar. I tried lots of different combos but really they just feel either soft, medium, or hard. Haha. __________________
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