Right Rear light Bulb is Burned ! And How do I get it To Work?

dan99 · 04-05-2011, 06:28 PM

My right rear parking light is out and I tried to change the bulb but that doesn't work as well. I'm thinking that it has something to do with the bulb carrier? This is for an e92 07 and it's out of warranty? Should I go to the dealer or is this something I can do myself?

It's # 4 in the diagram.

Ascension · 04-05-2011, 06:53 PM

My wife had a 2004 325i and her rear light went out. I thought it was a simple fix by replacing the bulb with a new one, but it wasn't. I took the car to my mechanic who repaired it. I forgot exactly what he did because we sold the car, but he said it's a common problem and he had to rewire the wires. Try Googling it.

CubanJJ09 · 04-05-2011, 07:01 PM

Go to the trunk and take out the piece of liner on the side you want to work on. Should just have to twist the black dial and it loosens it. When u get to the brake assembly u squeeze the gray piece (I believe) it pops out a larger assembly and just pluck the bulb out. It's all easy and shouldnt have to use lots of power

dan99 · 04-05-2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

Go to the trunk and take out the piece of liner on the side you want to work on. Should just have to twist the black dial and it loosens it. When u get to the brake assembly u squeeze the gray piece (I believe) it pops out a larger assembly and just pluck the bulb out. It's all easy and shouldnt have to use lots of power

thanks, I got that down. lol. I think it has something to do with the electrical component. I switched the light bulbs from the working one to the non-working one but it still didn't work.

yoandry · 04-05-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

Go to the trunk and take out the piece of liner on the side you want to work on. Should just have to twist the black dial and it loosens it. When u get to the brake assembly u squeeze the gray piece (I believe) it pops out a larger assembly and just pluck the bulb out. It's all easy and shouldnt have to use lots of power

That's u on the avatar. jk

CubanJJ09 · 04-05-2011, 07:29 PM

Squirrel master won't be around next time

blackpixi7 · 04-05-2011, 11:11 PM

Funny, my 07 just started giving me "right rear brake lamp out" warnings on the dash, but I looked at the rear of the car and the bulbs look fine. The warning only comes on sometimes, every 5 or 6 starts it'll pop up.

hugus311 · 04-06-2011, 02:53 AM

known issue with the bulb carrier. there is a TSB out on this issue

bimmercontrol · 04-06-2011, 04:04 AM

probably corrosion on the harness connectors

John 070 · 04-06-2011, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hugus311

known issue with the bulb carrier. there is a TSB out on this issue

Mine went out when the car was less that 6 mos. old. The dealership told me it wasn't just the bulb, it was the carrier. Only on a German car, right? I've seen new E92's with one side of the front lights out.

CubanJJ09 · 04-06-2011, 11:23 AM

yea i had 500 miles on it whe they replaced the whole rear light assembly for the recall. no problems thus far

N54B30A · 04-06-2011, 11:38 AM

Have the same bulb i think, on the same side out now. But for me its the braking bulb, and last time i checked you have to brake to light it up so put some weight on the brake pedal or have someone brake for you and see if it lights up. Also check the error codes.

bmodzelewski · 04-06-2011, 11:52 AM

is the bulb definitely out or are you just getting the warning on the dash? i used to get that warning every couple months but the bulb was never really out

dan99 · 04-06-2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugus311

known issue with the bulb carrier. there is a TSB out on this issue

what does tsb stand for? But yeah, I have been researching and it does seem like it's a common problem with the bulb carrier.... However, I switched the whole bulb carrier from the non-working right to the working left wire harness and it worked! So I don't think it's necessarily the carrier itself, but more so something with the electrical harness.

dan99 · 04-06-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bmodzelewski

is the bulb definitely out or are you just getting the warning on the dash? i used to get that warning every couple months but the bulb was never really out

When I brake the bulb lights up like normal, however when I turn on the headlights, that particular bulb should stay on, but it does not.

hugus311 · 04-07-2011, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan99

what does tsb stand for? But yeah, I have been researching and it does seem like it's a common problem with the bulb carrier.... However, I switched the whole bulb carrier from the non-working right to the working left wire harness and it worked! So I don't think it's necessarily the carrier itself, but more so something with the electrical harness.

TSB technical service bulletin. bmw identifies a issue and part numbers associated with the failure in question and annotates the new part numbers to correct malfunction.

hugus311 · 04-07-2011, 03:30 AM

SI B 63 02 08
Lights March 2008
Technical Service

SUBJECT
Rear Bulb Failure

MODEL
E92 (3 Series Coupe) vehicles produced up to January 21, 2008

SITUATION
The "bulb out" warning shows in the instrument cluster. Diagnosis shows a fault for the rear lamp.

CAUSE
Poor fit between the bulb and bulb holder

CORRECTION
In the case of a customer complaint, replace the complete bulb holder housing. Refer to Repair Instruction 63 21 055 (Replacing a socket housing for left or right rear light [side panel]). The replacement part is supplied complete with bulbs.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

63 21 4 428 113
Bulb holder with bulbs (Left)
1

or

63 21 4 428 114
Bulb holder with bulbs (Right)
1

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Defect Code
63 21 00 79 00

Main Work*

Labor Operation:
63 21 055
Replacing one bulb holder housing

Labor Allowance:
Refer to KSD

*Main Work:
Use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.

lungmulia · 05-02-2011, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugus311

SI B 63 02 08
Lights March 2008
Technical Service

SUBJECT
Rear Bulb Failure

MODEL
E92 (3 Series Coupe) vehicles produced up to January 21, 2008

SITUATION
The "bulb out" warning shows in the instrument cluster. Diagnosis shows a fault for the rear lamp.

CAUSE
Poor fit between the bulb and bulb holder

CORRECTION
In the case of a customer complaint, replace the complete bulb holder housing. Refer to Repair Instruction 63 21 055 (Replacing a socket housing for left or right rear light [side panel]). The replacement part is supplied complete with bulbs.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

63 21 4 428 113
Bulb holder with bulbs (Left)
1

or

63 21 4 428 114
Bulb holder with bulbs (Right)
1

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Defect Code
63 21 00 79 00

Main Work*

Labor Operation:
63 21 055
Replacing one bulb holder housing

Labor Allowance:
Refer to KSD

*Main Work:
Use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.

Hi Hugus311,
Do you know the bulb holder's P/N for the dome light?
Car is 320i LCI E90.
Thanks in advance with the help.

Cheers.

hugus311 · 05-02-2011, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungmulia

Hi Hugus311,
Do you know the bulb holder's P/N for the dome light?
Car is 320i LCI E90.
Thanks in advance with the help.

Cheers.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do

John 070 · 05-02-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugus311

SI B 63 02 08

CAUSE
Poor fit between the bulb and bulb holder

CORRECTION
In the case of a customer complaint, replace the complete bulb holder housing. Refer to Repair Instruction 63 21 055 (Replacing a socket housing for left or right rear light [side panel]). The replacement part is supplied complete with bulbs.

In case customer does not notice, do not repair anything, especially if customer is nearing end of warranty. Wait for customer to come back as this is not covered by CPO and will result in a billable repair costing more than anyone can imagine. Looks like the part is $19, but to code it so that electricity will flow to the bulb, that's another $400. lol

hugus311 · 05-03-2011, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John 070

In case customer does not notice, do not repair anything, especially if customer is nearing end of warranty. Wait for customer to come back as this is not covered by CPO and will result in a billable repair costing more than anyone can imagine. Looks like the part is $19, but to code it so that electricity will flow to the bulb, that's another $400. lol

lol

John 070 · 05-03-2011, 04:36 AM

All kidding aside, it does look like the part is $19. But does recoding need to take place? It reminds me of a 200 series Volvo I once had. If a lamp went out, it was not the lamp nor socket, it was the printed circuit, and it cost I think $70, and they'd have to be replaced over and over. It made me wonder why Europeans make things overly complicated....

p.s. what provides light to the light bars running through the assy?

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Ascension Major 87 Rep 1,032 Posts Drives: 2006 330i & 2010 535i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sunnyvale/Tracy, Ca iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 535i [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	I had the same problem My wife had a 2004 325i and her rear light went out. I thought it was a simple fix by replacing the bulb with a new one, but it wasn't. I took the car to my mechanic who repaired it. I forgot exactly what he did because we sold the car, but he said it's a common problem and he had to rewire the wires. Try Googling it. __________________ 2006 330i Jet Black w/ Beige Leather/Sport/Prem/Step/Shades/Xenon/Logic 7
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CubanJJ09 Banned 169 Rep 12,680 Posts Drives: like an asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [6.18]	Go to the trunk and take out the piece of liner on the side you want to work on. Should just have to twist the black dial and it loosens it. When u get to the brake assembly u squeeze the gray piece (I believe) it pops out a larger assembly and just pluck the bulb out. It's all easy and shouldnt have to use lots of power
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CubanJJ09 Banned 169 Rep 12,680 Posts Drives: like an asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [6.18]	Squirrel master won't be around next time
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blackpixi7 Registered Bro 18 Rep 197 Posts Drives: '08 135i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (2)	Funny, my 07 just started giving me "right rear brake lamp out" warnings on the dash, but I looked at the rear of the car and the bulbs look fine. The warning only comes on sometimes, every 5 or 6 starts it'll pop up.
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hugus311 Titanium silver + Sport + Premium 32 Rep 662 Posts Drives: 2006 330i (E90) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: west covina 626 iTrader: (6)	known issue with the bulb carrier. there is a TSB out on this issue Last edited by hugus311; 04-06-2011 at 02:58 AM..
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CubanJJ09 Banned 169 Rep 12,680 Posts Drives: like an asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [6.18]	yea i had 500 miles on it whe they replaced the whole rear light assembly for the recall. no problems thus far
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N54B30A Captain 224 Rep 699 Posts Drives: 2021 HS M2C Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area, California iTrader: (0)	Have the same bulb i think, on the same side out now. But for me its the braking bulb, and last time i checked you have to brake to light it up so put some weight on the brake pedal or have someone brake for you and see if it lights up. Also check the error codes. __________________ 2021 M2C HS DCT 2007 Wedge 335i E92 FBO, Stage 2 LPFP,VTT STG 2+, VTT Shotgun E50 w/ Inlets MT-SOLD
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bmodzelewski Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 244 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baltimore iTrader: (2)	is the bulb definitely out or are you just getting the warning on the dash? i used to get that warning every couple months but the bulb was never really out
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hugus311 Titanium silver + Sport + Premium 32 Rep 662 Posts Drives: 2006 330i (E90) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: west covina 626 iTrader: (6)	SI B 63 02 08 Lights March 2008 Technical Service SUBJECT Rear Bulb Failure MODEL E92 (3 Series Coupe) vehicles produced up to January 21, 2008 SITUATION The "bulb out" warning shows in the instrument cluster. Diagnosis shows a fault for the rear lamp. CAUSE Poor fit between the bulb and bulb holder CORRECTION In the case of a customer complaint, replace the complete bulb holder housing. Refer to Repair Instruction 63 21 055 (Replacing a socket housing for left or right rear light [side panel]). The replacement part is supplied complete with bulbs. PARTS INFORMATION Part Number Description Quantity 63 21 4 428 113 Bulb holder with bulbs (Left) 1 or 63 21 4 428 114 Bulb holder with bulbs (Right) 1 WARRANTY INFORMATION Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Defect Code 63 21 00 79 00 Main Work* Labor Operation: 63 21 055 Replacing one bulb holder housing Labor Allowance: Refer to KSD *Main Work: Use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.
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John 070 Lieutenant General 1706 Rep 14,829 Posts Drives: 335i cpe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ZSP/ZPP/ZCW iTrader: (0)	All kidding aside, it does look like the part is $19. But does recoding need to take place? It reminds me of a 200 series Volvo I once had. If a lamp went out, it was not the lamp nor socket, it was the printed circuit, and it cost I think $70, and they'd have to be replaced over and over. It made me wonder why Europeans make things overly complicated.... p.s. what provides light to the light bars running through the assy?
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