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      03-17-2011, 10:54 AM   #1
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Teaser for all you N63 owners! N63 downpipes.

We mastered the N54 downpipes, then the N55 and we are back at it again. This time for the N63! Prototypes should be done early next week and hope to be available for sale in early April!!!

For those of you who don't know who we are, we are a top competitor in the N54 and N55 motor world for aftermarket performance parts. We are always looking for markets to expand in to and when we got a call about N63 downpipes, it seemed like a great opportunity. You can view our N54 and N55 downpipes on our website at www.ardesign.info

As with all of our downpipes, these will be made of quality SS304 tubing with mandrel bends, and hand tig welded right here in Denver, CO. Guaranteed perfect fitment every time.

I'll update this thread with more pictures as the work and development of these downpipes progresses.

The car a generous member let us borrow for a few weeks while he is in town.


Digging deep into the engine bay to reveal the stock downpipes


Pile of plastic engine covers and intake components you need to remove to get to the downpipes


Finally got to the downpipes, those factory cats are HUUUGE!


Stay tuned as I will continually update this thread with more pictures!
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      03-17-2011, 12:59 PM   #2
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how much do u guys sell the N55 downpipe for the F10 535 for?

I am really interested in the F10 535 downpipe!

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      03-17-2011, 02:16 PM   #3
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This is exciting! Wonder what power increase for my ECU tuned 550i?
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      03-19-2011, 10:42 PM   #4
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Nice, any tuning involved?
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      03-22-2011, 02:17 PM   #5
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Nice, any tuning involved?
Definitely recommended!

Here is some pictures of the progress.

Finally got the stock ones out of the car


This chassis has some of the tightest clearances we have ever had to deal with!


New pipe with race cat almost ready to be tested for correct 100% fitment!
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      03-22-2011, 02:39 PM   #6
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Damn chris that is looking beautiful! You guys really do amazing work.
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      03-22-2011, 04:37 PM   #7
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Been working on this all day. What a pain!

Took us a while to source a cat that would flow enough for these cars, but I think we picked a real winner!
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So how much would the entire job cost ? Labor & parts, if done at your shop.

Once the installed is done, can you let us know how it performed.

Thanks
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Pricing is not done yet for N63. Id probably charge in the vicinity of 10 hours to do the install, but hard to say until I do a bunch more. Its NOT FUN.
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Pricing is not done yet for N63. Id probably charge in the vicinity of 10 hours to do the install, but hard to say until I do a bunch more. Its NOT FUN.
Jesus - 10 hours!!!???

You might want to package these with an exhaust mani/turbo upgrade to install while youre in there to get your money's worth!
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That sounds like it will be at least $1300 + job in total (parts & labor)
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That sounds like it will be at least $1300 + job in total (parts & labor)
Replacing a downpipe is no simple task

Even on the N54's it is really quite time consuming.
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So there are no O2 sensor's pre/post those huge cats??? Or are they just not shown in the pic's above?
Are there two more cat's downstream?
That's some SERIOUS heat shielding in that V.

Nice work.
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No, they are just not shown.
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Looks like they will flow more air, and keep things cooler. But just can't agree with BMW putting the hot turbos and cats next to the intake maifolds where the intake air needs to be cool. i would think any responce gained by positioning the turbos close to the intake would be nullified by the hot air.
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Looks like they will flow more air, and keep things cooler. But just can't agree with BMW putting the hot turbos and cats next to the intake maifolds where the intake air needs to be cool. i would think any responce gained by positioning the turbos close to the intake would be nullified by the hot air.
We are going to try to help that by ceramic coating these downpipes entirely on the outside and somewhat on the inside.
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Working on the jigs right now. Had to change to a different style flex as the 3" Vibrant ones do NOT fit....... Should be here Friday.
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Looks like they will flow more air, and keep things cooler. But just can't agree with BMW putting the hot turbos and cats next to the intake maifolds where the intake air needs to be cool. i would think any responce gained by positioning the turbos close to the intake would be nullified by the hot air.
Aren't the intake manifolds on the other side of the "V"?
Exhaust headers are in the valley of "V" to the turbo's --> intercooler --> intake manifold on the underside of the "V"???
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Aren't the intake manifolds on the other side of the "V"?
Exhaust headers are in the valley of "V" to the turbo's --> intercooler --> intake manifold on the underside of the "V"???
What I understood is that the induction system in the N63 is reverse flow where the intake and exhaust manifolds are in opposite positions.

Hey Chris

Any info of the dimensions of those cats? 3" all the way or gradual increase in diameter?

Also, will you offer catted and non-catted versions?

Really excited to know that N63 is starting to gain some attention in the tuning field. This engine has a lot of potential.
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What I understood is that the induction system in the N63 is reverse flow where the intake and exhaust manifolds are in opposite positions.

Hey Chris

Any info of the dimensions of those cats? 3" all the way or gradual increase in diameter?

Also, will you offer catted and non-catted versions?

Really excited to know that N63 is starting to gain some attention in the tuning field. This engine has a lot of potential.
That's why what BMW9 said doesn't make sense. The turbo's are in the V and the air goes to the intercooler to the intake manifolds on the outside of the V.
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Jigs are done. WHAT A PAIN!!!
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.... and now you are the first one to lay claim to have created the 'real' monster

Great work ! Any more pics ??
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