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      02-26-2011, 05:00 PM   #1
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investigating the HPFP issue in Canada!

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You've probably heard this question 1 zillion times and here is it again. What's up with this HPFP thing! is it Really a Hit/Miss Chance or is it an issue that all N54's will have to deal with sooner or Later?
i Own an E46 now and i can not get my self to switch to another brand and i really like the 335I for all its attributes and there is no other substitute or any other model remotely close to its power and luxury for the Same Price. i Mean S5's are way more expensive! but i really don't want to get Stuck with this HPFP issue while on trips.
So do i have to Settle Down for the 328I and forget about the Torque Adrenaline, if i want to stay trouble free? And do we have the Same Alarming issues rates up here in Canada? ( some say our Gas is Cleaner thus not harming the pump)
And Finally, Did we Have the Same recall as the US?
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      02-26-2011, 08:39 PM   #2
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According to BMW's official numbers, 1 in 3 n54 engines will need a fuel pump replacement. Maybe it is closer to 50/50. who knows.....there are people on this forum with 3, 4 or even 5 replacment HPFPs. There are others over 100,000km with the orginal fuel pump. I'm at 42,000 km on a 2008 335i, with Dinan stage 2 software, and no HPFP issues. Knock on wood.
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      02-26-2011, 09:57 PM   #3
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Thank you Guys!
After all what i've just red hereon the forum i'll have to go with the 328I , even if i'll get Smoked by Mazdaspeed Ricers . at least i'll have a reliable Bimmer.
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      02-27-2011, 12:06 AM   #4
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Thank you Guys!
After all what i've just red hereon the forum i'll have to go with the 328I , even if i'll get Smoked by Mazdaspeed Ricers . at least i'll have a reliable Bimmer.
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Trust me, go for the 335i.
The fuel pump isnt that big a deal, my car has 60000km on the original pump. And beside the fuel pump is covered free under warranty(10 years)
The 335i is just such a better car than the 328i trust me youre going to regret it if you dont get it.
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      02-27-2011, 12:54 AM   #5
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Trust me, go for the 335i.
The fuel pump isnt that big a deal, my car has 60000km on the original pump. And beside the fuel pump is covered free under warranty(10 years)
The 335i is just such a better car than the 328i trust me youre going to regret it if you dont get it.
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72.000km still on the original HPFP. Have always been using Shell V-Power though.
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      02-27-2011, 05:36 AM   #6
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i had my fuel pump replaced but the dealer said that becasue my car didn't show up as having the recall when they entered in my VIN, it was to be replaced under my CPO warranty and i was charged the $50 deductible.

anyone else have the same issue?
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      02-27-2011, 07:24 AM   #7
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+1
72.000km still on the original HPFP. Have always been using Shell V-Power though.
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69,000km still on the original HPFP. I always been using 94 oct since day one!

Just the 335i you won't regret it!
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Trust me, go for the 335i.
The fuel pump isnt that big a deal, my car has 60000km on the original pump. And beside the fuel pump is covered free under warranty(10 years)
The 335i is just such a better car than the 328i trust me youre going to regret it if you dont get it.
We Have the 10 Years HPFP warranty Here too? what about the Mileage is it 160 000 Miles as in in the US? . so what you're saying is if i Guy a CPO 2008 MY i'll be Covered till 2018? that will definitely weigh in the balance big time my bro.
and i know that the 335I is so much Better and am Doing research about that HPFP since months now.
Thank you Bro.
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i had my fuel pump replaced but the dealer said that becasue my car didn't show up as having the recall when they entered in my VIN, it was to be replaced under my CPO warranty and i was charged the $50 deductible.

anyone else have the same issue?
Why the Heck did he Made you pay! it's nonsensical! i mean you have a CPO which should be covered for any Engine issues , fuel pump included! so recall or no recall that should'nt matter no?
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if repair is done as recall then no deductible if done as CPO then 50$ deductible.
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I will be taking delivery of a 2011 335xi by the end of the month, does this issue affected 2011 models? If so, is there a 10 year warranty on them?
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BMW dealers are giving their clients a lot of conflicting information on whether or not the 10 year warranty applies to Canadians. The shop foreman at autowest BMW Richmond, BC told me that they are honoring hpfp failures on out of warranty cars that have a history at their dealership. Having said that, I have yet to see any documentation on the matter from BMW Canada.

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I will be taking delivery of a 2011 335xi by the end of the month, does this issue affected 2011 models? If so, is there a 10 year warranty on them?
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I will be taking delivery of a 2011 335xi by the end of the month, does this issue affected 2011 models? If so, is there a 10 year warranty on them?
the 2011 comes with the N55 ( single turbo) engine and Yes there were already some Failures reported on the 135I and the 335I caused by the HPFP. i Honestly do not understand BMW move since they let the Old N54 engine in the Z4is. 335IS and the 1M.
That Being said, several reported being able to Dodge this issue by always leaving more than 1/4 of tank Gas. ( no idea if it is true but nevertheless it makes sense cause some dealers told their clients that the Failure of their HPFP and injectors was due to them sucking Air when the Tank was almost empty)
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72.000km still on the original HPFP. Have always been using Shell V-Power though.
42000 km still on the original HPFP. Have always used DIFFERENT fuels...whichever is closer...Shell, Esso, Sunoco (now Petro Canada), Petro Canada, Costco....though I've never used Husky...and it seems my car doesn't really like Costco gas (experience turbo lags more frequently at lower speeds..car just doesn't run as smooth but it could be placebo on my part.)
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BMW dealers are giving their clients a lot of conflicting information on whether or not the 10 year warranty applies to Canadians. The shop foreman at autowest BMW Richmond, BC told me that they are honoring hpfp failures on out of warranty cars that have a history at their dealership. Having said that, I have yet to see any documentation on the matter from BMW Canada.
A dealership in the GTA indicated there was documentation (they knew about the re-call and said its official in Canada.)

Though, I've yet to see this document.
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Thank you Guys!
After all what i've just red hereon the forum i'll have to go with the 328I , even if i'll get Smoked by Mazdaspeed Ricers . at least i'll have a reliable Bimmer.
Regards!
Reliable Bimmer - funny. If you want reliability, buy an Acura. If you want an incredible sports sedan (or 4 seat coupe), buy the 335 (i or xi) and take comfort that you have a 10 year, 200,000km warranty on the HPFP.


Not only does it handle like a dream and have incredibly communicative sttering, as you'd expect from a 3 series, the torque from the n54 engine is INTOXICATING!!!!!!!! And if you find the 330hp (according to Dinan and many others) and 330 lb-ft of torque inadequate, for about $2k you can get a Dinan ECU flash from many dealers that will up that to 385hp and 425 lb-ft. That means you can keep up with C63s and M3s, at least on public roads.

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Reliable Bimmer - funny. If you want reliability, buy an Acura. If you want an incredible sports sedan (or 4 seat coupe), buy the 335 (i or xi) and take comfort that you have a 10 year, 200,000km warranty on the HPFP.


Not only does it handle like a dream and have incredibly communicative sttering, as you'd expect from a 3 series, the torque from the n54 engine is INTOXICATING!!!!!!!! And if you find the 330hp (according to Dinan and many others) and 330 lb-ft of torque inadequate, for about $2k you can get a Dinan ECU flash from many dealers that will up that to 385hp and 425 lb-ft. That means you can keep up with C63s and M3s, at least on public roads.
are you sure that the 10 years 200.000 km is also available up here in Canada?
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i say when you go shopping for the 335 just ask them directly. i am going to go ask my dealership about this issue when i go in for my next service. i bought mine cpo and havent had any issues so far *KNOCK ON WOOD* car had 59k when i bought it and now has 68k.
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If you don't want to go all the way to 335 (which I would), get an '06 330. They're cheap now, tried and true, and the NA engine will last forever and with slight mods you can achieve noticeable gains.

Plus, let's face it.. the 330 will remain the "top" 3-series for its model year, as the 335 is the top currently. Going for the 328 is simply settling, just as getting an '06 325 would be.
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On my last trip in the philippines i went to the bmw dealer there and i dont know how true is the statement of the dealer but they say that the new cars with the n55 engine no longer have the fuel pump problem because apparently they filed a complain and bmw did a recall for them. But then again they have the euro spec down there
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So lets confirm, Canada's HPFP has 10 years 200k KM warranty now?
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      03-24-2011, 09:15 PM   #22
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I have an email from BMW stating that the HPFP is covered under the emissions warranty for 10 years, 200,000km. Equivalent to the US's 10 years, 120,000 miles. Although BMW Canada didn't announce it until 2 months after BMW USA.

06 330 is a nice car, but there is a reason they are less expensive. There isn't as big a market. 06 330 only has 20-30 hp more that a 07 328 or 50-80 (depending on whose hp numbers you believe) less than a 335. A friend has an 06 330xi and he said the value dropped 20% the day they introduced the 335. Should be compared to an 07 328 with similar options.
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