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      12-02-2010, 09:02 AM   #1
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Question Best bang for your buck 2011 N55 Sedan

I've spent several hours looking for conclusive evidence of what might be the best HP per Dollar choice for these cars with no avail. I am also looking for something that is untraceable if at all possible.

Please Chime in with your thoughts, reviews, or concerns. Thanks
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A piggyback / flash tune
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I've gathered that much, I am more interested in the specifics. Brand A over B...etc.
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best piggy for n55: vishnu procede v4/soon to be v5

best flash: nothing "off the shelf" currently available. i've talked to my local race shop, they can re-flash the stock dme with a dyno-tune, around $700. not a bad route to take, and there's multiple shops that can do this type of flash
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The procede is a full tune so it will currently give u the best results. The jb3 just raises boost. But for the price of the jb3 I am really happy with the results. The full tune should be out soon and it wll only cost about a few bucks to upgrade it.

To give you some numbers. Fastest I ever ran stock was 13.69. I hit a 13.17 with my jb3 stage 1, stock everything (and on runflats)
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No comparison between the jb tune and the Procede. If you want a tune (and not a boost controller), get the Procede. It will provide heaps more power, better drivability and more engine safety. The cheap and dirty approach of just turning up the boost and hoping that the factory knock sensor will save you doesn't apply to the n55.

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No comparison between the jb tune and the Procede. If you want a tune (and not a boost controller), get the Procede. It will provide heaps more power, better drivability and more engine safety. The cheap and dirty approach of just turning up the boost and hoping that the factory knock sensor will save you doesn't apply to the n55.

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Lol, you'll never change. And as much as I once wanted a Procede, I don't think I'd ever buy one of your products, not like it matters anyway...
Please don't take my comment personally. It's not a slam to you or any other user who purchased the jb n55 tune. It's just the truth. I didn't mean to offend. My apologies.

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Lol, you'll never change. And as much as I once wanted a Procede, I don't think I'd ever buy one of your products, not like it matters anyway...
I suppose receiving factual information doesn't appeal to you? I would rather hear the down and dirty than something sugarcoated to make it seem more appealing than it really is.
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I suppose receiving factual information doesn't appeal to you? I would rather hear the down and dirty than something sugarcoated to make it seem more appealing than it really is.
There is a difference between noting key differences and bashing.

With that said, there is no doubt that shiv makes one hell of a product.
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460613

No comparison between the jb tune and the Procede. If you want a tune (and not a boost controller), get the Procede. It will provide heaps more power, better drivability and more engine safety. The cheap and dirty approach of just turning up the boost and hoping that the factory knock sensor will save you doesn't apply to the n55.

Shiv
Frankly I'm surprised you're turning the boost so high on the N55 without even basic fuel control. But be that as it may at 2-3psi over stock with the JB Stage1 the motor would benefit with more advance not less.

Also that 113.1mph run is nice but the car did 106.5mph stock. So the tuning and big IC added 6.6mph. It remains to be seen if 6.6mph is added consistently with those two mods. The JB Stage1 on 100% stock cars has been adding 3-4mph. Not bad for $379 and the overall tuned driving experience is great. Night and day vs. stock.

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There is a difference between noting key differences and bashing.

With that said, there is no doubt that shiv makes one hell of a product.
It don't think I was bashing. By any definition, raising boost arbitrarily with no reference for throttle position OR EVEN engine RPM is "quick and dirty". I suspect the desire to be first to market overshadowed the desire to provide a sound and fully functional tune. Yes, it was probably the best possible tune the manufacturer could build at the time to do technology limitations (ie, no ability to adjust timing, read/translate CAN data, drive the solenoid directly, etc,.). But it was a quick and dirty effort. If these comments upset you, they shouldn't. They don't reflect you personally. They are simply a technical assessment of a product that you purchased.

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It don't think I was bashing. By any definition, raising boost arbitrarily with no reference for throttle position OR EVEN engine RPM is "quick and dirty". I suspect the desire to be first to market overshadowed the desire to provide a sound and fully functional tune. Yes, it was probably the best possible tune the manufacturer could build at the time to do technology limitations (ie, no ability to adjust timing, read/translate CAN data, drive the solenoid directly, etc,.). But it was a quick and dirty effort. If these comments upset you, they shouldn't. They don't reflect you personally. They are simply a technical assessment of a product that you purchased.

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Na, I wasn't upset. I guess that's the problem with "text style" writing. Its hard to determine tone and things get misunderstood.
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There is a difference between noting key differences and bashing.

With that said, there is no doubt that shiv makes one hell of a product.
Shiv noted the key differences between the two tunes, the problem was you didn't want to hear it.
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Shiv noted the key differences between the two tunes, the problem was you didn't want to hear it.
Lol, just drop it bro. We have already cleared our misunderstandings to one another. You can go back to other parts of the forum now.
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I for one got the Procede Enthusiast (http://www.procedetuning.com/) for my N55 E90... once I get the car I'll let you know how it works, but all my research pointed me in the Procede direction and the new Enthusiast version isn't a stretch above the JB price-wise.

From what I've read this is definitely the best bang-for-buck mod that won't risk the BMW warranty (if you're careful).
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Na, I wasn't upset. I guess that's the problem with "text style" writing. Its hard to determine tone and things get misunderstood.
Agreed. It's funny.. when I go to car meets everyone is surprised to see that I'm not an old grumpy, angry man. I guess my writing style gives that impression lol.

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I for one got the Procede Enthusiast (http://www.procedetuning.com/) for my N55 E90... once I get the car I'll let you know how it works, but all my research pointed me in the Procede direction and the new Enthusiast version isn't a stretch above the JB price-wise.

From what I've read this is definitely the best bang-for-buck mod that won't risk the BMW warranty (if you're careful).
Are you sure you bought the Enthusiast for the n55? Currently, we only offer the Professional version for the n55. PM me your full name and i'll check your order
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Buy Procede - I've had both. I dont have an n55 - but if I did there's only one vendor I'd go to tune it.. The more you read about it the more it just make sense..
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Please don't take my comment personally. It's not a slam to you or any other user who purchased the jb n55 tune. It's just the truth. I didn't mean to offend. My apologies.

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Anyone who is not brainwashed and can analyze things on their own knows that the JB3 is extremely similar to procede (minus the half-baked Procede timing control).

I know people in my country with both JB3 and Procede and they both have the same strengts and weaknesses. And the JB3 always wins in drag races, it is always stronger. But of course someone who spent $1000 on Procede can't say that he could have the same quality at half the price...
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Anyone who is not brainwashed and can analyze things on their own knows that the JB3 is extremely similar to procede (minus the half-baked Procede timing control).

I know people in my country with both JB3 and Procede and they both have the same strengts and weaknesses. And the JB3 always wins in drag races, it is always stronger. But of course someone who spent $1000 on Procede can't say that he could have the same quality at half the price...



these threads always turn out the same.





as a previous owner of a jb3, and a current owner of a procede, there is NO COMPARRISON between the two tunes. driveability, boost repsonse, extra features, etc are hands down better on the procede
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Anyone who is not brainwashed and can analyze things on their own knows that the JB3 is extremely similar to procede (minus the half-baked Procede timing control).

I know people in my country with both JB3 and Procede and they both have the same strengts and weaknesses. And the JB3 always wins in drag races, it is always stronger. But of course someone who spent $1000 on Procede can't say that he could have the same quality at half the price...
Similar? Half-baked timing control? Jb3 stronger? Same quality? Oh come on. Try the Procede in your car and then tell us your impression.
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