best bang for the buck mod?

jettech · 11-01-2010, 08:29 PM

whats the best bang for the buck suspension mod? daily driver
e90 all stock 325i

stressdoc · 11-01-2010, 08:37 PM

ZSP?

Extreme performance non-rfts. BMW Perf suspension. M3 control arms.

ModBargains.com · 11-02-2010, 01:16 PM

What are the goals that you have for your car? Are you looking for something that's height adjustable or are you okay with an aftermarket shock and spring combo? If you're looking for something that's going to be comfortable for your daily driver I would recommend for you to check out the KONI FSD w/ the Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs.

KONI FSD (frequency selective dampers) are a must for fine tuning your BMW's ride, and handling capability. KONI FSD adjusts damping automatically, so there is no need to manually adjust the shock absorber. These shocks replace OEM shocks and actively controls stiffness, and dramatically improves handling. KONI revolutionized shocks, with the first ever adjustable shock. It comes as no surprise that KONI remains the market leader in shock absorbers. Pair these shocks up with some Eibach Pro Lowering Springs which provide a slightly more aggressive and raked stance than your stock suspension while still maintaining a comfortable ride. On average Eibach Pro Lowering Springs will lower your vehicle 1.2" in the front and 1.0" in the rear, providing for a lower center of gravity and improved handling. Pro Springs feature more control than that of the OEM springs, but are still comfortable for daily use. Eibach Pro Springs are an excellent choice for street and occasional track use.

I'll shoot you over a PM with more details!

- Alan

bugsandry · 11-02-2010, 03:45 PM

**********s, What's the difference between the regular Koni that you are selling vs Koni FSD (in simple words)?

and how would you rate Koni FSD + Eibach vs Koni FSD + H & R?

Thanks

ModBargains.com · 11-02-2010, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugsandry

**********s, What's the difference between the regular Koni that you are selling vs Koni FSD (in simple words)?

and how would you rate Koni FSD + Eibach vs Koni FSD + H & R?

Thanks

1) KONI Yellows are adjustable, which means that you can influence the behavior of the car to meet your preferences (ride comfort, handling balance, etc.). The KONI Yellow shocks has a preset shock setting (that can also be adjusted by hand, but not on the fly) but keeps a consistent sports shock feel.

The H&R sport springs provide a slightly more aggressive and raked stance than your stock suspension. H&R Sport Springs will lower your vehicle an average of 1.3" in the front and 1.2" in the rear for a lower center of gravity and improve handling. Sport springs feature more control than that of the OEM Sport spring, but is still comfortable for daily use.

2) KONI FSD adjusts damping automatically, so there is no need to manually adjust the shock absorber. These shocks replace your OEM shocks and actively control stiffness, and dramatically improve handling. As your vehicle moves quicker the shock reacts to the movement and the dampening stiffens - so on street driving thats nice and slow - the shock dampening will be comfortable and soft, as you speed up at higher speed the shock will stiffen up and tighten up.

Eibach Pro Lowering Springs provide a slightly more aggressive and raked stance than your stock suspension while still maintaining a comfortable ride. On average Eibach Pro Lowering Springs will lower your BMW 330i 1.2" in the front and 1.0" in the rear, providing for a lower center of gravity and improved handling. Pro Springs feature more control than that of the OEM springs, but are still comfortable for daily use.

I'll shoot you over a PM with more details!

- Alan

SlicktopTTZ · 11-02-2010, 04:22 PM

Nitrous.

It helps your rear suspension compress.

neoduffer · 11-02-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stressdoc

ZSP?

Extreme performance non-rfts. BMW Perf suspension. M3 control arms.

I'm thinking along the same lines with tires and camber plates.

Relatively sticky tires such as the Dunlop z1 star specs and front camber adjusted to -2° or even -3°.

Gavin@MMW · 11-02-2010, 04:57 PM

You can get coilovers for not much more then the Koni/Eibach combo, which is a real boost to suspension and overall car performance. Coilovers are the best option for those who want to set their own ride height and have the ability to change ride stiffness also.

jettech · 11-02-2010, 05:57 PM

what about front and rear sway bars? or is that after the shocks and springs?

Gavin@MMW · 11-02-2010, 06:08 PM

Shock/springs or coilovers first. There is a lot of labor involved in installing the rear swaybar, so overall cost would not benefit as much.

LOLrance · 11-02-2010, 06:34 PM

CAMBER

brocklanders · 11-02-2010, 06:43 PM

does your car have sport package?

e90pilot · 11-02-2010, 07:11 PM

Unstaggering the tires if you have ZSP. Major difference. Or get coilovers that match your tire stagger.

jettech · 11-02-2010, 09:48 PM

totally stock with 16X7 wheels, non sport package.. was going to upgrade to the m sport 17s with 225/45/17

brocklanders · 11-02-2010, 09:50 PM

buy a used sport suspension

hdrewh · 11-08-2010, 12:51 PM

how much buck? I recently installed the short shifter (just the shifter, not the kit, kept my stock boot and m-tech shift knob). $83 from Tischer including shipping - every shift is noticeably shorter and SO much more fun.

In the bang-for-buck factor, this wins for me.

mike-y · 11-08-2010, 01:23 PM

a used zsp suspension (springs + struts) can be had for $200-$300. That's a pretty good value for the dollars spent.

subieworx · 11-08-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l4wr3nc3

CAMBER

I'm with him.

The geometry and design of the stock style suspension is not good for lowering with springs. If you want to lower the car your best option is coilovers. (although which ones is a whole other debate)

If you are looking to have the car handle better, the two best things to start with are better tires and a good performance oriented alignment.

SIEAIN · 11-12-2010, 06:19 PM

When is the best time to change your OEM shocks/springs? Should I drive my car for a little bit, wait till the shocks are more worn out then replace them, or replace them right away?

MKE_M3 · 11-13-2010, 09:42 AM

best bang for the buck is without question better and square(same/similar front to rear) tires when you need new tires (technically no cost!). Second is probably m3 lower control arms and a proper alignment (about $300 total)

rothwem · 11-16-2010, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l4wr3nc3

CAMBER

Geez, how are the site vendors supposed to make money when you're over here suggesting improvements that can't be bought online like a performance alignment? We need COILOVERS! SWAYBARS! BUSHINGS! M3 CONTROL ARMS!

The HACK · 11-16-2010, 05:00 PM

High Performance Driving School.

Give it 3-5 schools, you'll make a 328i run circles around a heavily tuned 335i on the track driven by a noob.

11-01-2010, 08:29 PM	#1
jettech New Member 1 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 11 e90 / 08 e82 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: gso iTrader: (0)	best bang for the buck mod? whats the best bang for the buck suspension mod? daily driver e90 all stock 325i
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

11-01-2010, 08:37 PM	#2
stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	ZSP? Extreme performance non-rfts. BMW Perf suspension. M3 control arms. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 01:16 PM	#3
ModBargains.com Banned 475 Rep 13,583 Posts Drives: JB E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 1721 E. Lambert Rd #C, La Habra, CA 90631 iTrader: (51)	What are the goals that you have for your car? Are you looking for something that's height adjustable or are you okay with an aftermarket shock and spring combo? If you're looking for something that's going to be comfortable for your daily driver I would recommend for you to check out the KONI FSD w/ the Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs. KONI FSD (frequency selective dampers) are a must for fine tuning your BMW's ride, and handling capability. KONI FSD adjusts damping automatically, so there is no need to manually adjust the shock absorber. These shocks replace OEM shocks and actively controls stiffness, and dramatically improves handling. KONI revolutionized shocks, with the first ever adjustable shock. It comes as no surprise that KONI remains the market leader in shock absorbers. Pair these shocks up with some Eibach Pro Lowering Springs which provide a slightly more aggressive and raked stance than your stock suspension while still maintaining a comfortable ride. On average Eibach Pro Lowering Springs will lower your vehicle 1.2" in the front and 1.0" in the rear, providing for a lower center of gravity and improved handling. Pro Springs feature more control than that of the OEM springs, but are still comfortable for daily use. Eibach Pro Springs are an excellent choice for street and occasional track use. I'll shoot you over a PM with more details! - Alan
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 03:45 PM	#4
bugsandry First Lieutenant 20 Rep 362 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW e92 328xi Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (5)	**********s, What's the difference between the regular Koni that you are selling vs Koni FSD (in simple words)? and how would you rate Koni FSD + Eibach vs Koni FSD + H & R? Thanks
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 04:22 PM	#6
SlicktopTTZ Captain 11 Rep 685 Posts Drives: 91 300ZX Twin-Turbo, 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	Nitrous. It helps your rear suspension compress.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 04:57 PM	#8
Gavin@MMW Brigadier General 406 Rep 3,879 Posts Drives: MMW Supercharged E90 328i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 818/805 iTrader: (18)	You can get coilovers for not much more then the Koni/Eibach combo, which is a real boost to suspension and overall car performance. Coilovers are the best option for those who want to set their own ride height and have the ability to change ride stiffness also.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 05:57 PM	#9
jettech New Member 1 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 11 e90 / 08 e82 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: gso iTrader: (0)	what about front and rear sway bars? or is that after the shocks and springs?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 06:08 PM	#10
Gavin@MMW Brigadier General 406 Rep 3,879 Posts Drives: MMW Supercharged E90 328i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 818/805 iTrader: (18)	Shock/springs or coilovers first. There is a lot of labor involved in installing the rear swaybar, so overall cost would not benefit as much.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 06:34 PM	#11
LOLrance The Law. 301 Rep 14,283 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SF / OC iTrader: (17)	CAMBER __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 06:43 PM	#12
brocklanders Major 106 Rep 1,428 Posts Drives: the uno, mineral white Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: houston iTrader: (3) Garage List 06 325 [0.00]	does your car have sport package?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 07:11 PM	#13
e90pilot Freight Dawg 104 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oakland, CA iTrader: (3)	Unstaggering the tires if you have ZSP. Major difference. Or get coilovers that match your tire stagger. __________________ --Marcelo '06 Arctic Metallic 325i \| Sport Package \| 6MT \| Dinan Stage III suspension \| Dinan exhaust \| 330i manifold swap! Click here! \| Active Autowerke tune \| 135i Brake Calipers \| Deiselboost caliper brackets \| E46 M3 front rotors
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 09:48 PM	#14
jettech New Member 1 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 11 e90 / 08 e82 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: gso iTrader: (0)	totally stock with 16X7 wheels, non sport package.. was going to upgrade to the m sport 17s with 225/45/17
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-02-2010, 09:50 PM	#15
brocklanders Major 106 Rep 1,428 Posts Drives: the uno, mineral white Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: houston iTrader: (3) Garage List 06 325 [0.00]	buy a used sport suspension
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2010, 12:51 PM	#16
hdrewh Lieutenant 70 Rep 441 Posts Drives: '09 E90 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York iTrader: (3)	how much buck? I recently installed the short shifter (just the shifter, not the kit, kept my stock boot and m-tech shift knob). $83 from Tischer including shipping - every shift is noticeably shorter and SO much more fun. In the bang-for-buck factor, this wins for me. __________________ 2009 E90 328i Montego Blue, Black Leather, 6MT, ZPP, Logic 7, HD radio, CA, fold-down seats, PDC. ED pickup 6/12/2009 mods: Koni FSDs, Eibach Pro's, Sport/Heated Seats, BMW Perf. short shifter, M-tech shift knob/e-brake handle/steering wheel, split armrest, black grilles, 50% tint, 3M clear bra.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-08-2010, 01:23 PM	#17
mike-y just another bmw douche bag 195 Rep 3,640 Posts Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (4)	a used zsp suspension (springs + struts) can be had for $200-$300. That's a pretty good value for the dollars spent.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-12-2010, 06:19 PM	#19
SIEAIN Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (3)	When is the best time to change your OEM shocks/springs? Should I drive my car for a little bit, wait till the shocks are more worn out then replace them, or replace them right away?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-13-2010, 09:42 AM	#20
MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	best bang for the buck is without question better and square(same/similar front to rear) tires when you need new tires (technically no cost!). Second is probably m3 lower control arms and a proper alignment (about $300 total)
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-16-2010, 05:00 PM	#22
The HACK Midlife Crises Racing Silent but Deadly Class 1821 Rep 5,337 Posts Drives: 2006 MZ4C, 2021 Tesla Model 3 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Welcome to Jamaica have a nice day iTrader: (1)	High Performance Driving School. Give it 3-5 schools, you'll make a 328i run circles around a heavily tuned 335i on the track driven by a noob. __________________ Sitting on a beat-up office chair in front of a 5 year old computer in a basement floor, sipping on stale coffee watching a bunch of meaningless numbers scrolling aimlessly on a dimly lit 19” monitor.
	Appreciate 0 Quote