[46m3csl]

I want to buy this car 335i listed for $23,900 has about 48,200 miles on it. The warranty has only about 200 miles left, the car fax is clean and has all the oil changes and everything done on time. I called my local dealer up just to check up on this they said its clean and everything has been done on time. Its a manual transmission, is this considered high mileage for this car. Anything I should worry about, other than HPFP.
Thanks
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[alberto335]

to much miles.. look for another one

[Trojan4evr]

Yo, which dealership did you call? the millage is kinda high but if it's been taken care of then there souldn't be any problem. Go over the service history thoroughly. Take a look at Crevier. the Price is also not bad.

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by 46m3csl

I want to buy this car 335i listed for $23,900 has about 48,200 miles on it. The warranty has only about 200 miles left, the car fax is clean and has all the oil changes and everything done on time. I called my local dealer up just to check up on this they said its clean and everything has been done on time. Its a manual transmission, is this considered high mileage for this car. Anything I should worry about, other than HPFP.
Thanks
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The base mileage on a 2007 right now is about 38,000 miles. What other options are on the car?

[46m3csl]

Its has sports package, they changed the rims to e46 m3 csl rims, has premium package and tan leather with a six-speed manual transmission

[46m3csl]

by the way its a private dealership

[ForTheD]

I think thats pretty good. If you are worried about warranty, then you still have time to get the extended warranty before the 50k one goes out, but that is not cheap.

I was in about the same boat as you. whether you get the car dealer, or private, you never truly know what the car has been through. Just check history and carfax. If you can though, private saves you thousands.

[hipnotic]

i say it is a good deal

[BTM]

The mileage is higher than average, but I still wouldn't consider it to be high mileage. As for known issues, search the forums. There are fuel delivery problems reported in addition to the HPFP, as well as wastegate rattle to name the most recurring ones.

Good luck with your research

Also, how does the warranty only have 200miles left if the car's mileage is 48,200? 50,000 - 48,200 = 1,800 balance on mileage. As for the 4 yr time constraint, that depends on when the car was actually put "in service" - the carfax should provide you with this information

[46m3csl]

thanks

[Schm]

Is the HPFP extended warranty in effect? That's not necessarily high miles, but since it is a 335 is will be more prone to problems. Look at 330s or 328s if you want to be really safe

[tmo24]

Not bad. I recently bought a 2007 335i sedan manual without sport or premium for $21k. Had 41k miles. It was the cheapest one I could find in the entire country looking online for about 2 months. I would pay a few grand more to get the sport and premium package so I think it's not bad.

[Kolyan2k]

HPFP has 120k 10 year warranty.....so no worries. I personally dont think 48k is high millage (60+ is high for me). and for that price its a steal...well maybe not, but still a good price

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by 46m3csl

I want to buy this car 335i listed for $23,900 has about 48,200 miles on it. The warranty has only about 200 miles left, the car fax is clean and has all the oil changes and everything done on time. I called my local dealer up just to check up on this they said its clean and everything has been done on time. Its a manual transmission, is this considered high mileage for this car. Anything I should worry about, other than HPFP.
Thanks
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The Galves trade-in (wholesale) value of a 2007 E90 (Sedan) 335i with 6-speed manual transmission, leather seats (Premium Package), Sport Package, and 48,200 miles is:

$19,800 (Base Price)
- $650 (without Automatic Transmission)
+ $700 (Sport Package)
- $1,525 (mileage adjustment: base mileage is 38,000)
= $ 18,325 (Wholesale / Trade-In Value)

+ $1,400 (HIGH ESTIMATE for minor reconditioning: new tires, brake pads, etc. IF APPLICABLE)
+ Fair dealer overhead & profit of 10%

IMO, $21,800 is a fair sale price for that car from a non BMW dealer.

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

The Galves trade-in (wholesale) value of a 2007 E90 (Sedan) 335i with 6-speed manual transmission, leather seats (Premium Package), Sport Package, and 48,200 miles is:

$19,800 (Base Price)
- $650 (without Automatic Transmission)
+ $700 (Sport Package)
- $1,525 (mileage adjustment: base mileage is 38,000)
= $ 18,325 (Wholesale / Trade-In Value)

+ $1,400 (HIGH ESTIMATE for minor reconditioning: new tires, brake pads, etc. IF APPLICABLE)
+ Fair dealer overhead & profit of 10%

IMO, $21,800 is a fair sale price for that car from a non BMW dealer.

the book does not tell you that 6-speed is usually more expensive then auto in used car world with cars like bmw and audi. i paid 2k more then trade-in value of my audi at dealer's auction for a clean, 6-speed, s-line A4.

edit: where as auto tranny A4 I could have bought at least 1k below the trade-in......I am not saying that its always the case, but back then I couldnt find the car I like for 3 month, 80% were auto.

[46m3csl]

Thanks for the hint

[BTM]

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

the book does not tell you that 6-speed is usually more expensive then auto in used car world with cars like bmw and audi. i paid 2k more then trade-in value of my audi at dealer's auction for a clean, 6-speed, s-line A4.

Sometimes this is the case, but when buying from the dealer, I've seen it go just as easily the other way (ie paid less for the car because it's a manual). Lots of dealers have a hard time selling manual cars, you're right that sometimes enthusiasts will come and snatch them up, but if you can find a MT that's been sitting on the lot for 60+ days the dealer is getting anxious to move it anyway, and you can actually use the fact that it's MT to your advantage.

I had a pretty good deal set up earlier this year for an 07 E92 6MT 335 with 41k on it for 25 and change, and was able to use the fact that it was a MT to my advantage. Alas, I wanted an E90 and held out for one

[46m3csl]

And for some reason these guys really wont lower there price, the cars been on there lot for 2 months plus, any ideas guys

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by BTM

Sometimes this is the case, but when buying from the dealer, I've seen it go just as easily the other way (ie paid less for the car because it's a manual). Lots of dealers have a hard time selling manual cars, you're right that sometimes enthusiasts will come and snatch them up, but if you can find a MT that's been sitting on the lot for 60+ days the dealer is getting anxious to move it anyway, and you can actually use the fact that it's MT to your advantage.

I had a pretty good deal set up earlier this year for an 07 E92 6MT 335 with 41k on it for 25 and change, and was able to use the fact that it was a MT to my advantage. Alas, I wanted an E90 and held out for one

true too. i personally couldnt find any good 6-speed coupes in MA area, then finally found one and after i bought the car (a week later), the dealer told me that i was lucky to buy it so fast because 2 other people were begging him to sell it to them < true or not i dont know.

i had another case with A4, the dealer outbid me on 2008 3.2 A4 at the auction and ended up buying the car for $29,500 !!! listed the car later for $34,000. You might ask why the hell would somebody pay that much for A4, well the car was loaded with every single option and was 6-speed = rare car (and this was only 1.5 years ago)

[Outlaw 06]

Originally Posted by Kolyan2k

the book does not tell you that 6-speed is usually more expensive then auto in used car world with cars like bmw and audi. i paid 2k more then trade-in value of my audi at dealer's auction for a clean, 6-speed, s-line A4.

edit: where as auto tranny A4 I could have bought at least 1k below the trade-in......I am not saying that its always the case, but back then I couldnt find the car I like for 3 month, 80% were auto.

Hmmm. In 2007 (the model year of my 335i and the one the OP is looking at) only 7.7% of new cars sold in the US had manual transmissions. That's pretty low demand from new car buyers who can order the exact options they want from the factory.

Consumer demand for manual transmission cars in the US has been steadily decreasing annually for over 30 years, so there's reason to believe that less than 7.7% of US used car buyers want manual transmission cars in 2010. In other words, approximately 90% of US car buyers won't even consider purchasing a manual transmission car (in contrast, almost 80% of new cars sold in Europe have manual transmissions).

While the supply of late model used cars with manual transmissions in the US is undeniably low, the demand for such cars in 2010 is even lower. That's why most cars with manual transmissions have a lower wholesale values (there are some exceptions though, the DCT or SMG automatic transmissions add $0 to the wholesale value of the E9x or E46 M3s)..

This overall low demand for manual transmission cars is definitely an advantage for savvy American consumers (and BMW enthusiasts) who are willing to purchase a used car with a manual transmission...

[Kolyan2k]

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

Hmmm. In 2007 (the model year of my 335i and the one the OP is looking at) only 7.7% of new cars sold in the US had manual transmissions. That's pretty low demand from new car buyers who can order the exact options they want from the factory.

Consumer demand for manual transmission cars in the US has been steadily decreasing annually for over 30 years, so there's reason to believe that less than 7.7% of US used car buyers want manual transmission cars in 2010. In other words, approximately 90% of US car buyers won't even consider purchasing a manual transmission car (in contrast, almost 80% of new cars sold in Europe have manual transmissions).

While the supply of late model used cars with manual transmissions in the US is undeniably low, the demand for such cars in 2010 is even lower. That's why most cars with manual transmissions have a lower wholesale values (there are some exceptions though, the DCT or SMG automatic transmissions add $0 to the wholesale value of the E9x or E46 M3s)..

This overall low demand for manual transmission cars is definitely an advantage for savvy American consumers (and BMW enthusiasts) who are willing to purchase a used car with a manual transmission...

well if 90% of cars are AUTO and 10% of cars are MANUAL, wouldnt that mean that MANUAL cars are RARE are can cost more ?

My last 3 cars have been MANUAL and I overpaid on all 3. The only car I saved money on was e46 M3 SMG. And I am pretty sure I know what I am talking about since I have dealers license and used to go to auto auctions very frequently (anything (bmw, audi, etc) that has potential enthusiast buyer on it (sport suspension, 6-speed, etc) will 99% sell for more then book value)

of course when you look at toyota camry, hundai sonata and other shitty cars, they will sell MUCH cheaper in manual then auto. this was the case with my fathers Altima, he could have bought 5-speed for 1,500 cheaper then his auto.

[Kolyan2k]

I mean I would never by Auto (not talking about DCT or SMG, or PDK) BMW or Porsche, even if its $5k cheaper then Manual.......