[sattapaal]

Hi,

I was just looking for a thread that's more relative to what I wanted to read, i.e. details about general happiness with their e90 petrol car, but I couldn't find any? one cropped up in the search which was based in Australia.

The other was on here and it was a general problem solving consortium, and highlighting the problems with the specific product.

I couldn't find many reviews of the 320i M Sport and I'm caught in two minds about it now. I really like the M Sport looks and there really doesn't seem to be many used 320d's on the market.

Would it be a good idea to have a owners section of the UK site broken down by Model Type? i.e. 318i se /318d se/ 318i M Sport / 318d M Sport etc etc? how much the M sport actual relates to the SE is anyone's guess, but for someone looking to buy, maybe this might be a good idea?

Either way, i'm going to see this tonight! i'll let you know what happens! (high mileage i know, but its got almost everything i want!)

http://www.cargiant.co.uk/BMW/3-seri...W-3-series.asp

[dxb335d]

Not a good idea to break it up even more than it is. It would be too fragmented and quiet.

[Jeff123]

When I wa looking, you could add £1500 for M Sport; £1500 for Diesel and more for an auto. That's why you aren't finding any. There were plenty areound for me, just that you pay more.

[zltm089]

I think the technical section could be "broken" down into suspension mods and engine/ remaps ....and threads like changing to non runflats, tyre pressures, etc could be stickied...

[Boyd1963]

Originally Posted by sattapaal

Hi,


Either way, i'm going to see this tonight! i'll let you know what happens! (high mileage i know, but its got almost everything i want!)

http://www.cargiant.co.uk/BMW/3-seri...W-3-series.asp

You need to test drive a 320i and 320d back to back to compare. 320d wins every time IMHO.

Good Luck at Car Giant. I used to go there all the time when I lived in Harrow but must admit that I never saw a car that I liked. Mileage or price and sometimes both was always to high.

[sattapaal]

Originally Posted by Jeff123

When I wa looking, you could add £1500 for M Sport; £1500 for Diesel and more for an auto. That's why you aren't finding any. There were plenty areound for me, just that you pay more.

thing is, im not finding that at all. today i saw that car, and i must say, it was damn good. high mileage and only had one key. the key can be replaced for £60 i understand? very tempted, but very reluctant too because i havent tested a diesel.

so if a diesel version of the car was £1500 more would i baulk at buying? no i wouldnt. its just that their arent any available in that year which isnt in scotland! thats what im seeing from my recent hunting really.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1500?logcode=p

or am i just buying at the wrong time? i might take a break from this and just come back at the end of the month, hopefully i'll get the right deal?

so confused.

[sattapaal]

Originally Posted by Boyd1963

You need to test drive a 320i and 320d back to back to compare. 320d wins every time IMHO.

Good Luck at Car Giant. I used to go there all the time when I lived in Harrow but must admit that I never saw a car that I liked. Mileage or price and sometimes both was always to high.

yeah, there are 3 things that i dont like about it:

wood dash, lack of 2nd key, high mileage.

[chrisbin]

You mention owners general happiness with the car....and then go on to say that its the 320i you are interested in.....


Well, I think you should have a read here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136258

and hopefully come to the conclusion that the 320d is worth waiting for....

[Falmouthboy]

Don't be put off a 320i, particularly a 170 BHP 2008+ Efficiency Dynamics model. Most of the issues on the thread above relate to the 148 BHP ealier engined version. Just a very different car to a 320d. Not as quick, not as economical, but 'car for car' at least £1500 cheaper. You can buy a lot of petrol for that.

If you do a high milage or the extra power is important then you will be better off with a 320d. Otherwise, a 320i is fine - it's what I have and I'm very happy with it.

[Jeff123]

Originally Posted by sattapaal

thing is, im not finding that at all. today i saw that car, and i must say, it was damn good. high mileage and only had one key. the key can be replaced for £60 i understand? very tempted, but very reluctant too because i havent tested a diesel.

so if a diesel version of the car was £1500 more would i baulk at buying? no i wouldnt. its just that their arent any available in that year which isnt in scotland! thats what im seeing from my recent hunting really.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1500?logcode=p

or am i just buying at the wrong time? i might take a break from this and just come back at the end of the month, hopefully i'll get the right deal?

so confused.

The car in Glasgow looks really cheap. This is a car that retailed 4 years ago for c£30k being sold at £12k. On the face of it, the car looks too good to be true - maybe it is!

Just looking at it again - the technical spec appears to be for a 325d. It's quated as having 218bhp and being a 2500l engine. Don't know if this is significant.

[sattapaal]

Originally Posted by chrisbin

You mention owners general happiness with the car....and then go on to say that its the 320i you are interested in.....


Well, I think you should have a read here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136258

and hopefully come to the conclusion that the 320d is worth waiting for....

Chris, I think you have me wrong, IF I could afford a diesel, I would no doubt buy one, I just cannot find anything in the bracket of my budget. What does seem to be in my bracket are the 320i's.

Also, that thread IS FOR PROBLEMS, obviously its going to be a deterrent, this is why I would like to hear from some owners of 320i's who prefer the car to the 320d. Where, this opinion simply doesn't exist. Anywhere.

[sattapaal]

Originally Posted by Falmouthboy

Don't be put off a 320i, particularly a 170 BHP 2008+ Efficiency Dynamics model. Most of the issues on the thread above relate to the 148 BHP ealier engined version. Just a very different car to a 320d. Not as quick, not as economical, but 'car for car' at least £1500 cheaper. You can buy a lot of petrol for that.

If you do a high milage or the extra power is important then you will be better off with a 320d. Otherwise, a 320i is fine - it's what I have and I'm very happy with it.

Pretty much what conclusion I'm coming to really. It's tempting to go for this 320i, but really, I haven't driven many of either car yet to gain a strong opinion for myself. But really, are we going to do many miles? My wife is pregnant and she'll be driving through her maternity, and occasionally we'll be visiting Leicester.

Really appreciate your opinion there FalmouthBoy.

[sattapaal]

Originally Posted by Jeff123

The car in Glasgow looks really cheap. This is a car that retailed 4 years ago for c£30k being sold at £12k. On the face of it, the car looks too good to be true - maybe it is!

Just looking at it again - the technical spec appears to be for a 325d. It's quated as having 218bhp and being a 2500l engine. Don't know if this is significant.

I know, the distance alone is a risk, as, if you get a problem, its far to distant to "go back and complain", should there be something wrong with the car.

Looking at that advert again, it also says its a Petrol!

Is it just me or do others also think that finding a 320i M Sport Automatic for £10,000, and the diesel equivalent is £3000 more? Not the £1500 quoted?

[Falmouthboy]

Another slightly 'off the wall' thought.

As you are on a bit of slim budget, have you considered one of the last E46s (previous version of the 3 series). The E46 320i has a cracking 6 cyl engine and is no more expensive to run than a pre Efficiency Dynamics E90. It's a well known fact that 'run out' (i.e. the last) versions of most BMWs tend to be the 'sweet spot' for the model and launch versions tend to have teething problems. If you fancy a 2 door they go as late as 2006 and you can still pick them up from a dealer with the reassurance of an AUC warranty. The car below is an example of what is available.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_d...BD12010PM16403

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by sattapaal

.

Also, that thread IS FOR PROBLEMS, obviously its going to be a deterrent, this is why I would like to hear from some owners of 320i's who prefer the car to the 320d. Where, this opinion simply doesn't exist. Anywhere.

Then why don't you be proactive and post up a new thread asking for opinions from 320i owners ??

I am not going to start a whole new section of Owners Threads because a) there is too much crossover of information, b) information will be duplicated so many times, c) judging by the inability of some people to post in the correct sections even now, the administration of five or ten new sections would be an utter nightmare.

[sattapaal]

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Then why don't you be proactive and post up a new thread asking for opinions from 320i owners ??

I am not going to start a whole new section of Owners Threads because a) there is too much crossover of information, b) information will be duplicated so many times, c) judging by the inability of some people to post in the correct sections even now, the administration of five or ten new sections would be an utter nightmare.

thanks for the advice, you're right, it would make for more difficult moderation. i think i only suggested it because i saw it at AVForums, which did need lots of intervention when a particular subject would reach like 20 pages long. so a) youre right, b) youre right and c) youre right.

can you lock this thread? the content doesnt match the title anymore.

[- Paul -]

Lock the thread because the title doesn't match the content???? You not seen much of the forum then!

[verma]

What about these -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-BMW-320-D...item27b3dc561f

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-320d-2-0-M...item563db36251

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

Lock the thread because the title doesn't match the content???? You not seen much of the forum then!

[chrisbin]

My advice is that, even if you can afford a 320i, following my own personal experience, don't buy one. If you can't afford the extra for the 320d, which is a much better car, either wait and save, or buy something else.

You want advice/personal experience, that's mine!

Originally Posted by Falmouthboy

Don't be put off a 320i, particularly a 170 BHP 2008+ Efficiency Dynamics model. Most of the issues on the thread above relate to the 148 BHP ealier engined version. Just a very different car to a 320d. Not as quick, not as economical, but 'car for car' at least £1500 cheaper. You can buy a lot of petrol for that.

If you do a high milage or the extra power is important then you will be better off with a 320d. Otherwise, a 320i is fine - it's what I have and I'm very happy with it.

Sorry but that is just totally wrong...

The issues experienced by me and other 320i owners relate to the 177bhp engine.

Those who have experienced these issues wouldn't touch another one with a bargepole.

I think you both need to read the thread properly.

hth

[BanziBarn]

Maybe a stupid Idea, but what about a 318d plus remap? How would that come in price wise?

[Swiller]

Why not buy this?

http://www.cargiant.co.uk/BMW/330i/d...9-BMW-330i.asp

If link doesn't work, it's an 06 330i msport with 83 on clock from car giant . I assume you have probably looked at it if you have been down to view the 320. It is 10,999. You will pay more in fuel and insurance over a couple of years, but you should get that back in residuals. The 320d is a great car and shouldn't be compared to the 320i just because of engine size. The 320d is a compelling argument against a 325/330 petrol, but against a 320i, I am not surprised you can't find anything positive. For me an extra 10% will provide much more fun, and cost virtually the same.

I buy my cars from car giant and will continue to do so. My 330i with 27k on clock, sports package, leather, 3 years old cost me 11995 in dec 08.. With 62k on clock it is yours for 11k. Lol