HPFP...how long do I have?

Sh0cker · 04-22-2010, 07:29 AM

I got myself a long crank (like 5 seconds) several months ago, then another one (like 10 seconds) about a week ago. Both events recorded a 2FBF code.

I know this means the HPFP is having issues but the long crank is NOT reproducable (2x in a year) and every other time the car runs great. I've also been reading here that the dealer won't help with only two events stored, especially if you can't show them a long crank.

Is there any guess how long this will go until I get a limp mode? Or is this just another situation where it's anyone's guess?

cotmfk · 04-22-2010, 07:31 AM

2 days.

cotmfk · 04-22-2010, 07:32 AM

Sorry... jokes... couldn't resist!

gizmo335i · 04-22-2010, 07:39 AM

I don't know if anyone can answer that.....

Have you read through all this?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333519

D.B.S · 04-22-2010, 07:48 AM

I would just take it in to the dealer, why wait or guess on how long you have... If the codes are being recorded, then the dealership has no reason to not replace the HPFP and update your software. It's like playing russian roulette, its going to happen, but do you really want to be left stranded or driving around in limp mode when it happens?

kgb1637 · 04-22-2010, 07:55 AM

Take it in, they should be able to do it in a few hrs as long as they have the part.

Sh0cker · 04-22-2010, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo335i

I don't know if anyone can answer that.....

Have you read through all this?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333519

I did read through most of that, that's why I was afraid that the time between onset of any symptoms and SES may be just as random as how many miles you have before you get the first symptom.

I guess I'll give the stealer a call sooner rather than later

Chriztofor · 04-22-2010, 08:44 AM

Wow, you shouldn't have to worry like this. It sounds like you are driving around in a beater! Ugh.

chromisdesigns · 04-22-2010, 01:00 PM

Take it in -- the codes are all you need for proof. They will update the s/w, run tests, and probably replace the pump. It may take a couple days, due to the new procedures they have to follow.

MusclezMarinara · 04-22-2010, 01:07 PM

the new HPFP ending in 943 and the software update should fix your issue.

jtskariah · 04-22-2010, 02:09 PM

sorry to tell you this but you have a month

mycoupe · 04-22-2010, 02:10 PM

Till it goes out.

Sh0cker · 05-06-2010, 06:39 AM

So I made an appointment and in the meantime I racked up 8 more 2FBF event codes (!!!). They replaced the HPFP with the 943 version.

gizmo335i · 05-06-2010, 07:26 AM

So you got it replaced at this appt. and after the codes? Sorry, just making sure I understand....no other details about the visit? Did this dealership talk about this at all....

bandaid · 05-06-2010, 02:04 PM

What are you using to read the error codes?

rvmr1 · 05-06-2010, 04:40 PM

Can anyone (seriously) answer the OP? I was wondering the same thing.

John 070 · 05-06-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User Name

So I made an appointment and in the meantime I racked up 8 more 2FBF event codes (!!!). They replaced the HPFP with the 943 version.

You might be good to go now...just enjoy the car and stop analyzing. Good luck!

Oulixes · 05-06-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotmfk

2 days.

+ 1 = 3 days

ronster · 05-07-2010, 12:29 AM

My car had 2 long cranks in the morning before the hpfp failed completely on the same day.

doinoyou79 · 05-07-2010, 10:47 PM

I have been wondering the same thing as the OP. I know it's anybody's guess as to how long before HPFP failure once symptoms start. But I've had 1 long (~2 seconds) and 1 really long (~3-4 seconds) crank. I haven't gotten a SES light yet though. And for that reason, when I brought it in to the dealer, my SA told me they couldn't do anything for me because no codes were stored and no SES light. Frustrating!

jaybird124 · 05-07-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotmfk

2 days.

You stole my joke!

04-22-2010, 07:29 AM	#1
Sh0cker n00b 5 Rep 178 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (9)	HPFP...how long do I have? I got myself a long crank (like 5 seconds) several months ago, then another one (like 10 seconds) about a week ago. Both events recorded a 2FBF code. I know this means the HPFP is having issues but the long crank is NOT reproducable (2x in a year) and every other time the car runs great. I've also been reading here that the dealer won't help with only two events stored, especially if you can't show them a long crank. Is there any guess how long this will go until I get a limp mode? Or is this just another situation where it's anyone's guess? __________________ His: 08 E92 335i (sold), 99 Corolla beater car Hers: 09 Tiguan Previous: 09 e93 328i, 04 WRX, 07 S40, 03 E46 330xi, 04 F4i, 04 EX250
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cotmfk Major General 2054 Rep 6,116 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	Sorry... jokes... couldn't resist! __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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gizmo335i Colonel 163 Rep 2,979 Posts Drives: 07 SBM E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (51) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [9.42]	I don't know if anyone can answer that..... Have you read through all this? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333519 __________________ In the process of restoring an 07 335i
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D.B.S Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,748 Posts Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait iTrader: (2)	I would just take it in to the dealer, why wait or guess on how long you have... If the codes are being recorded, then the dealership has no reason to not replace the HPFP and update your software. It's like playing russian roulette, its going to happen, but do you really want to be left stranded or driving around in limp mode when it happens? __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust & Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter, JB3 (3+ psi) 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T: CAI, Catch Can, Custom Exhaust, Headers, 87MM Throttle Body, Diablo Custom 93 OCT Tune Last edited by D.B.S; 04-22-2010 at 09:48 AM..
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kgb1637 Lieutenant Colonel 21 Rep 1,519 Posts Drives: RS5 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD iTrader: (0)	Take it in, they should be able to do it in a few hrs as long as they have the part. __________________ Retired - '08 E90 335i Sparkling Graphite/Gray Dakota Leather, ZSP, ZCW, ZPP, Navi, ipod, Sat
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Chriztofor Colonel 103 Rep 2,783 Posts Drives: '06 325i and '13 X5 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (1)	Wow, you shouldn't have to worry like this. It sounds like you are driving around in a beater! Ugh.
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chromisdesigns Lieutenant Colonel 45 Rep 1,754 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i sedan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Take it in -- the codes are all you need for proof. They will update the s/w, run tests, and probably replace the pump. It may take a couple days, due to the new procedures they have to follow.
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MusclezMarinara Banned 262 Rep 5,018 Posts Drives: VALNCYA Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey iTrader: (23) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [9.22] 2009 335i Sedan xdrive [9.34]	the new HPFP ending in 943 and the software update should fix your issue.
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jtskariah Bud Light General 132 Rep 402 Posts Drives: M4 CS Limerock Grey Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia iTrader: (4)	sorry to tell you this but you have a month
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mycoupe Banned 55 Rep 1,495 Posts Drives: 07 335i coupe 6spd Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: cincinnati, Ohio iTrader: (5)	Till it goes out.
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05-06-2010, 06:39 AM	#13
Sh0cker n00b 5 Rep 178 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (9)	So I made an appointment and in the meantime I racked up 8 more 2FBF event codes (!!!). They replaced the HPFP with the 943 version. __________________ His: 08 E92 335i (sold), 99 Corolla beater car Hers: 09 Tiguan Previous: 09 e93 328i, 04 WRX, 07 S40, 03 E46 330xi, 04 F4i, 04 EX250
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gizmo335i Colonel 163 Rep 2,979 Posts Drives: 07 SBM E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (51) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [9.42]	So you got it replaced at this appt. and after the codes? Sorry, just making sure I understand....no other details about the visit? Did this dealership talk about this at all.... __________________ In the process of restoring an 07 335i
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bandaid Enlisted Member 3 Rep 44 Posts Drives: e93 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	What are you using to read the error codes?
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rvmr1 Enlisted Member 4 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California iTrader: (1)	Can anyone (seriously) answer the OP? I was wondering the same thing.
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05-07-2010, 12:29 AM	#19
ronster Lieutenant 16 Rep 421 Posts Drives: 2011 1M VO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	My car had 2 long cranks in the morning before the hpfp failed completely on the same day. __________________ 2011 1M VO stripper 2009 AW 135i M-sp (sold) 2002 SG MINI Cooper (sold)
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