M1 to M3 as Cayman S to Carrera?

jabwind51 · 03-03-2010, 04:02 PM

I have been hearing arguments to how the M1 (if ever in production) could be harmful to the M3, or maybe not. I figured rather than discussion being scattered over the forums it could be located here since I am very curious about it as well.

-So could the M1 stomp on the M3's toes, like the Cayman S's potential to do so on the Carrera?
(read: ...by creating a "cheaper" monster, that would ruin the flagship M3...)

-Or is it a different animal, with different demographics of buyers, price range, dynamics, function, etc...?

amdmaxx · 03-03-2010, 05:19 PM

Cayman S is the best car Porsche makes south of $100k.
M1 (if released) would be the best handling, nimblest and probably the fastest (if not stock, then with mild tuning) M car until TT V8s M5/M6 rolls around.

M3 buyers - rich, afflient looking for sport GT, simbol car.
M1 - mostly younger audience and track addicts and some kids who won't eat enough just to save on M1 payments.

Yvette · 03-03-2010, 05:27 PM

same reason but not at least why people chose 135 over 335

Robert · 03-04-2010, 12:44 AM

Slightly off topic I was hoping Porsche to bring 2011 Cayman refresh to Geneva. Oh well.

amdmaxx · 03-04-2010, 05:26 AM

Hint: 918 concept.

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Originally Posted by Robert

Slightly off topic I was hoping Porsche to bring 2011 Cayman refresh to Geneva. Oh well.

bmw13 · 03-04-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by amdmaxx

Cayman S is the best car Porsche makes south of $100k.
M1 (if released) would be the best handling, nimblest and probably the fastest (if not stock, then with mild tuning) M car until TT V8s M5/M6 rolls around.

M3 buyers - rich, afflient looking for sport GT, simbol car.
M1 - mostly younger audience and track addicts and some kids who won't eat enough just to save on M1 payments.

lol definitely one of those m1 guys, my car payment is more than my rent! but driving is more than getting from place to place for me. t sheer driving pleasure, really; i dont think it could be said even better. i love bmw and my bmw

BMW269 · 03-04-2010, 01:23 PM

Off topic: If M1 comes out will Porsche build a Cayman RS, like 911 GT3 RS?

dmboone25 · 03-04-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by amdmaxx

Hint: 918 concept.

I love the look of that concept....but it sounds like it will be north of $400K...

http://www.gizmag.com/porsche-918-sp...concept/14402/

Robert · 03-04-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by amdmaxx

Hint: 918 concept.

918 is akin to Carrera GT. Cayman is due for a refresh of its own. Don't get me wrong if the next Cayman has performance of the 918 I will be thrilled. Unless I am missing something here, I am all ears.

imported_Nomad · 03-04-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

Off topic: If M1 comes out will Porsche build a Cayman RS, like 911 GT3 RS?

There have been rumors of Porsche producing a Cayman RS much like they have done with the recent Spyder RS.

jabwind51 · 03-04-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert

918 is akin to Carrera GT. Cayman is due for a refresh of its own. Don't get me wrong if the next Cayman has performance of the 918 I will be thrilled. Unless I am missing something here, I am all ears.

but remember, Cayman refresh means an EVEN BIGGER Carrera refresh..

BForbes · 03-04-2010, 03:15 PM

I think it should read M1 to M3 as GT3 is to 911 Turbo(except in reverse).

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BForbes Moderator 557 Rep 4,240 Posts Drives: BSM 135i/AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	I think it should read M1 to M3 as GT3 is to 911 Turbo(except in reverse). __________________ - 04 Honda S2000(gone)
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