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SiKkBaSs · 01-26-2010, 07:55 AM

I've just finished installing a Rockford Fosgate subwoofer and amp.

The bass from the sub is Quality. It does BANG a lot more than it did before with the bass. The stock sound system is truly apalling.

One question is that the speakers at the front, is it possible to change them and how much would it cost? They seem to be holding my higher quality sub and amp back...or am I expecting too much?? What options are available? Should I stick with RF or should I look into someone like Vibe?

peteyg67 · 01-26-2010, 09:04 AM

Halfords man

Party :P

SiKkBaSs · 01-26-2010, 09:10 AM

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Halfords man

Party :P

What's wrong with installing a sub and an amp from Rockford Fosgate? Makes my system sound better than the normal shiet. Hardly a Halfords job...??

kizzz · 01-26-2010, 09:13 AM

I used CDT 3 ways for my front speakers. It all depends on how much you want to spend.

SiKkBaSs · 01-26-2010, 09:20 AM

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I used CDT 3 ways for my front speakers. It all depends on how much you want to spend.

How much were they if you don't mind me asking ? Are they the Clarions and what did the 3 way consist of?

kizzz · 01-26-2010, 09:30 AM

They are similar to the ones i have put a link for, like i said it depends on budget and whether they are going to be amped or not?

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http://www.woofersetc.com/p1119/HD642--CDT-Audio-High-Definition-65&quot;-3Way-Component-Speakers.htm

peteyg67 · 01-26-2010, 09:46 AM

HaHa Naw i meant go buy your stuff from halfords like the corsa chavs out there :P Nothing but shit tbh... Hate corsas and halfords >.<

Sounds like you did a decent upgrade but im curious as to which speakers you go with as id like to update my own.

Where did you place the sub btw, hard to installl? eg wires

BanziBarn · 01-26-2010, 10:10 AM

Are the subs a replacement of the stock ones, or in the boot?

SiKkBaSs · 01-26-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BanziBarn

Are the subs a replacement of the stock ones, or in the boot?

In the boot a la:

The amp is mounted behind the sub. It's a clean install not cluttery.

The subs under the seats must be seriously crap 'cos I struggle to hear them...looking for some power up front now.

MOB · 01-26-2010, 10:32 AM

BMW's own Logic 7 speakers fit straight in, sound nice

Will cost you around £200 though - but they are plug n play!

Have you got any tweeters in the front? If not juist fitting them makes a big difference - £100 for L7 ones

BanziBarn · 01-26-2010, 10:47 AM

I've got the Alpine upgrade so the stock subs are currently amplified but I like the idea of logic 7 subs if it's no hassle to swap!

I wonder if the stealer would do the upgrade? I wouldn't want to remove the seats myself.

SiKkBaSs · 01-26-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MOB

BMW's own Logic 7 speakers fit straight in, sound nice

Will cost you around £200 though - but they are plug n play!

Have you got any tweeters in the front? If not juist fitting them makes a big difference - £100 for L7 ones

As far as I'm concerned, the bass side of things I'm happy with. It's just I don't get that same kind of performance from the front speakers on the doors. I lack tweeters still. Always hesitant in buying BMW shizz, trying to find ways of finding something similar or better for a lower price or similar, appreciate they are plug 'n' play though.

Ham09 · 01-26-2010, 01:30 PM

I have seen a number of posts about upgrading the sound system on their BMW. My system is not the Logic7, it's the Business Sound system and I thinks it sounds good. Are the other systems that bad or are my ears getting worse?

About ten years ago when Nova's (not corsas) were all the rage it was either Pioneer or Alpine on the rear parcel shelf lol. Showing my age now.

MOB · 01-26-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SiKkBaSs

As far as I'm concerned, the bass side of things I'm happy with. It's just I don't get that same kind of performance from the front speakers on the doors. I lack tweeters still. Always hesitant in buying BMW shizz, trying to find ways of finding something similar or better for a lower price or similar, appreciate they are plug 'n' play though.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=dls+reference

DLS are reportedly great for the money - ask gizze

SiKkBaSs · 01-26-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MOB

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=dls+reference

DLS are reportedly great for the money - ask gizze

Thanks Em Oh Bee

gIzzE · 01-26-2010, 04:56 PM

I would get an amp on the fronts and add a pair of L7 tweeters.
Then set the crossover so nothing below 100hz gets through to the fronts and the sub does everything below 100hz, this would allow you to drive the speakers hard and loud without them falling down.

Should have really added a 3 channel amp, this would have driven the fronts and the sub from one unit.

However, Maybe look at something like the Vibe Litebox Stereo 2 now you have the sub amp, it is around £160 and is very good.
Or try and find a Genesis ST100 used, these are around £400 new but go for around £150 used and sound sweet as a nut, plus they are tiny and fit under the boot floor.
Needs to be a series 3 as the earlier ones didn't have a crossover on them and you need that.

No point adding decent speakers to crap amps, it will sound even worse.

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kizzz Enlisted Member 0 Rep 46 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK iTrader: (1)	They are similar to the ones i have put a link for, like i said it depends on budget and whether they are going to be amped or not? HTML Code: http://www.woofersetc.com/p1119/HD642--CDT-Audio-High-Definition-65"-3Way-Component-Speakers.htm __________________ GTR- 612bhp, 570lbs/ft
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peteyg67 Private First Class 15 Rep 124 Posts Drives: BMW 320d SE Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ireland iTrader: (0)	HaHa Naw i meant go buy your stuff from halfords like the corsa chavs out there :P Nothing but shit tbh... Hate corsas and halfords >.< Sounds like you did a decent upgrade but im curious as to which speakers you go with as id like to update my own. Where did you place the sub btw, hard to installl? eg wires
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MOB Major 56 Rep 1,413 Posts Drives: Alpine White M2 LCI Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northants UK iTrader: (4)	BMW's own Logic 7 speakers fit straight in, sound nice Will cost you around £200 though - but they are plug n play! Have you got any tweeters in the front? If not juist fitting them makes a big difference - £100 for L7 ones __________________
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BanziBarn Lieutenant Colonel 106 Rep 1,800 Posts Drives: BMW 330D E90 LCI Msport Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I've got the Alpine upgrade so the stock subs are currently amplified but I like the idea of logic 7 subs if it's no hassle to swap! I wonder if the stealer would do the upgrade? I wouldn't want to remove the seats myself. __________________ Black 330d E90 LCI M Sport Saloon Auto. Privacy Glass, Cream Leather, 6FL, I-Drive/Nav/Bluetooth, Alpine hifi upgrade.
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Ham09 Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 273 Posts Drives: A sh*t box Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North West iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 335i [0.00]	I have seen a number of posts about upgrading the sound system on their BMW. My system is not the Logic7, it's the Business Sound system and I thinks it sounds good. Are the other systems that bad or are my ears getting worse? About ten years ago when Nova's (not corsas) were all the rage it was either Pioneer or Alpine on the rear parcel shelf lol. Showing my age now.
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gIzzE Major General 363 Rep 5,984 Posts Drives: F11 + 911 C4 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norfolk, UK. iTrader: (2)	I would get an amp on the fronts and add a pair of L7 tweeters. Then set the crossover so nothing below 100hz gets through to the fronts and the sub does everything below 100hz, this would allow you to drive the speakers hard and loud without them falling down. Should have really added a 3 channel amp, this would have driven the fronts and the sub from one unit. However, Maybe look at something like the Vibe Litebox Stereo 2 now you have the sub amp, it is around £160 and is very good. Or try and find a Genesis ST100 used, these are around £400 new but go for around £150 used and sound sweet as a nut, plus they are tiny and fit under the boot floor. Needs to be a series 3 as the earlier ones didn't have a crossover on them and you need that. No point adding decent speakers to crap amps, it will sound even worse.
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