M5 Touring vs GT-R

dxb335d · 08-25-2009, 01:30 PM

Very close, the GT-R gets the jump but all good!!

Love em both

willhollin · 08-25-2009, 01:37 PM

How do you think the new M5 will fare against the GT-R? Twin turbo V8 or V10 I believe is the choice.

Steve A · 08-25-2009, 01:38 PM

both great cars, i miss my M6 for this kind of stuff, but i never really got a chance to do it on the road.

Steve A · 08-25-2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willhollin

How do you think the new M5 will fare against the GT-R? Twin turbo V8 or V10 I believe is the choice.

New M5 IMO will have 600bhp so in a straight line id punt at the m5.

MIKEYBMW1 · 08-25-2009, 01:40 PM

Awesome

willhollin · 08-25-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve A

New M5 IMO will have 600bhp so in a straight line id punt at the m5.

Any idea what engine it will be?

Turbo Power · 08-25-2009, 01:43 PM

The problem with the M5 / M6 is that you can't fully use most of the power
available on the public roads.

MIKEYBMW1 · 08-25-2009, 01:48 PM

I think I could give it a good go

DonM3 · 08-25-2009, 01:48 PM

From what I understand the new M5 will have the same engine as what is in the X5 M and X6 M.

4.4 L V8 twin turbo.

Goodbye high revving M engines

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Originally Posted by willhollin

Any idea what engine it will be?

dxb335d · 08-25-2009, 02:02 PM

Ive heard its a V8 4.4 Twin turbo with 550HP and will prob waste the nissan.

Amazed a touring can live with a GT-R even with a washing machine in the back, how cool is that!

willhollin · 08-25-2009, 02:31 PM

M5 on "Dave Ja Vu" now.

misterS3 · 08-25-2009, 05:02 PM

Guess who's had some money down on the next M5 for a few years now

misterS3 · 08-25-2009, 05:06 PM

I never get these sort of vids.

Is the point to figure out who can press the accelerator pedal just before a given point?

Surely you can look at the power output and weight of each car and work out what's going to happen in a straight line?

dxb335d · 08-26-2009, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by misterS3

I never get these sort of vids.

Is the point to figure out who can press the accelerator pedal just before a given point?

Surely you can look at the power output and weight of each car and work out what's going to happen in a straight line?

Why go drag racing, why go track daying why goto the ring, hell why buy a nice fast car.

Don't worry your Nissan is still fast

misterS3 · 08-26-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Why go drag racing, why go track daying why goto the ring, hell why buy a nice fast car.

Don't worry your Nissan is still fast

I get taking it around a track. To see how it corners, brakes, and accelerates etc and of course how good a driver you are. But just running in a straightl ine doesn't require much skill. It's more to do with the car than the driver and you could work the outcome out on paper.

So exactly - why go drag racing? Pointless if you ask me. Go to a track and see what you and your car can do.

As i said i had money down on an M5 way before i'd heard about a GTR

Plus you are doing your usual of comparing a modded car with a stock car and coming to a conclusion based on that.

dxb335d · 08-26-2009, 10:30 AM

Quite a bit of skil needed in launchiNg a car! Ask anyone whose tried. Also good performance indicator. Fortunately I can drive very well at the track and drag strip. ALso saying it's pointless is A VERY blinkered point of view, lots of people enjoy it. rwyb days are always packed and every forum I'm on loads of people love it. Didn't think you of all people would be so blinkered about it.

Back on topic, the touring os nearly 200kg heavier than the saloon.

Em135eye · 08-26-2009, 10:33 AM

Mister - do you know the specs then? Otherwise that's a rather brave move. Maybe it'll nbe a hybrid? Or a diesel...?!

Is the M5 Touring 200kgs heavier?! The 3 series touring is only about 50kgs more than the saloon!

Fortunately I can drive very well to Sainbury's...

RagingKileak · 08-26-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by misterS3

I get taking it around a track. To see how it corners, brakes, and accelerates etc and of course how good a driver you are. But just running in a straightl ine doesn't require much skill. It's more to do with the car than the driver and you could work the outcome out on paper.

So exactly - why go drag racing? Pointless if you ask me. Go to a track and see what you and your car can do.

As i said i had money down on an M5 way before i'd heard about a GTR

Plus you are doing your usual of comparing a modded car with a stock car and coming to a conclusion based on that.

I find anything which 'theoretically' calculates your 1/4 mile based on weight and power rarely considers torque and never considers gearing, which means they often come out with my car - at around 1700kg inc driver at sort of 18 seconds, when in truth its probably more like 13.2 or something (assuming I could run the drag -hehe- as well as Carl or Tony which I cant) so there is some interest in seeing how a car can surprise the mathematicians out there, not to mention that many cars at RWYB are older and heavily modified, often with no real clue as to what the supposed BHP is etc.

I can tell you one thing about launching too - in the 335d for sure - I cant launch well AT ALL so if someone else can then fair play to them!

The correct answer for why bother with Drag Racing is - why the fuck not? Why bother to get out of bed, wash your bollocks and go to work? Why bother to play xbox games when truly, you achieve nothing. Why go to the cinema for 2 hours of empty pleasure? Why spunk your load over a couple of Estonian prostitutes?

Why do anything?

Actually, in the words of Billie Piper 'Coz I want to!'

Regards
Matt

misterS3 · 08-26-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Quite a bit of skil needed in launchiNg a car! Ask anyone whose tried. Also good performance indicator. Fortunately I can drive very well at the track and drag strip. ALso saying it's pointless is A VERY blinkered point of view, lots of people enjoy it. rwyb days are always packed and every forum I'm on loads of people love it. Didn't think you of all people would be so blinkered about it.

Back on topic, the touring os nearly 200kg heavier than the saloon.

Quite a lot of people enjoy getting dressed up in rubber and covering themselves in custard.....ask Will. I just don't get it myself.

I think it is rather pointless because your not exploring the car in full. And it's not that much of a skill to launch a car and drive it down a 1/4 mile unless you are talking about drag racing. But in everyday cars......i bet i could get within spitting distance of your time just by copying your method. So where is the glory in that. Doesn't prove much about you. And certainly not much about your car as it doesn't consider how well it corners etc.
Now if you asked me if i could get within 30 seconds of you round The Ring...i would concede i can't.

misterS3 · 08-26-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 335diesel

Mister - do you know the specs then? Otherwise that's a rather brave move. Maybe it'll nbe a hybrid? Or a diesel...?!

Stupid maybe

Not brave

dxb335d · 08-26-2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterS3

Quite a lot of people enjoy getting dressed up in rubber and covering themselves in custard.....ask Will. I just don't get it myself.

I think it is rather pointless because your not exploring the car in full. And it's not that much of a skill to launch a car and drive it down a 1/4 mile unless you are talking about drag racing. But in everyday cars......i bet i could get within spitting distance of your time just by copying your method. So where is the glory in that. Doesn't prove much about you. And certainly not much about your car as it doesn't consider how well it corners etc.
Now if you asked me if i could get within 30 seconds of you round The Ring...i would concede i can't.

Mate try it, then get Back to me,I go drag racing, and explore the car ''in full''... so whats your point..

Least im enjoying several aspects to my car.

its a fun way yo go racing, much cheaper than a track day.

Providing you have a good driver, IT IS a good performance indicator.

If cars were only Built to handle, they would all have the same engine, they dont and cars have different powered engines.

Em135eye · 08-26-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by misterS3

Stupid maybe

Not brave

One test of the 335d did mention the diesel engine was considered for the M3...

Anyone seen Evo? It mentions a 740d - no not a 4.0 litre diesel but a version of the 35d engine - with a bit (but not actually a lot) more torque and bhp.

340d could be good if they do one but a remap of the 35d unit gets a lot more power and torque (40d seem to be around 315bhp and 470lbs/ft).

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