[Chirobimmer]

I have 6000 miles on my '08 335i and had the fuel pump replaced approximatley 2000 miles ago. Well guess what... it took about 5 minutes this morning for the car to fully start. It would start and stall over and over. So, I guess I'm going back to the dealership for another fuel pump.

On another note, this car has to be the biggest POS I have ever owned. My first new car was a Dodge Neon, which was more reliable. I have had multiple Civics, a Mustang, a G37 and a Corvette. I have no confidence that this car will actually work when I go to start it up. Besides the fuel pump, the comfort access only works about 75% of the time and there is an annoying buzz that seems to originate from the back somewhere.

I am truly amazed at how crappy this car is. For those of you out there that are considering buying a bimmer, take a close look at all of the posts on this and other forums before you buy.

I can only hope that the fuel pump will fail for a third time so that I can try to lemon law this piece of garbage.

And for those of you who are going to chime in to defend BMW, don't. There is no excuse to be left stranded by your brand new car in this day and age.

[200Duece]

your never stranded with BMW Roadside Assisstance

[samchoi604]

The g37 came out in 2007 as a 2008 model. Did you sell it after 1 year and got the 335i?

[Chirobimmer]

Originally Posted by samchoi604

The g37 came out in 2007 as a 2008 model. Did you sell it after 1 year and got the 335i?

No, I have both. (My wife drives the G37. Almost 20k miles and no problems).

[Ndna Jnz]

Originally Posted by Chirobimmer

I can only hope that the fuel pump will fail for a third time so that I can try to lemon law this piece of garbage.

FYI - The Lemon Law does not require that a given part fail 3 times. It is only required that, after 3 visits to the dealership for the same problem, the vehicle is still not properly repaired. This would include all visits to the dealer where the fuel pump problem was recorded as a customer complaint. If you took your car into the dealer and upon leaving, the fuel pump was still a problem, that counts as a "visit", even though they did not replace the pump.

I have a friend who is a professional mechanic and has his own business, who has Lemon Lawed 3 pickup trucks. On the last one, after returning the truck, he was given a $2,500 check for his troubles. He used an online Lemon Law "specialist" lawyer the second and third times.

[Chirobimmer]

Originally Posted by Ndna Jnz

FYI - The Lemon Law does not require that a given part fail 3 times. It is only required that, after 3 visits to the dealership for the same problem, the vehicle is still not properly repaired. This would include all visits to the dealer where the fuel pump problem was recorded as a customer complaint. If you took your car into the dealer and upon leaving, the fuel pump was still a problem, that counts as a "visit", even though they did not replace the pump.

I have a friend who is a professional mechanic and has his own business, who has Lemon Lawed 3 pickup trucks. On the last one, after returning the truck, he was given a $2,500 check for his troubles. He used an online Lemon Law "specialist" lawyer the second and third times.

How about my comfort access? I've mentioned it to the dealer 3 times already and they always say that it doesn't give them a code.

Yes, that's right... this car has been at the dealer 3 times, (soon to be 4) over the first 6000 miles.

[Kruz]

What's not working properly on the CA? There is some practice involved in getting it activate correctly each time.

[Ndna Jnz]

Originally Posted by Chirobimmer

How about my comfort access? I've mentioned it to the dealer 3 times already and they always say that it doesn't give them a code.

Yes, that's right... this car has been at the dealer 3 times, (soon to be 4) over the first 6000 miles.

If you have the paper work showing that you complained about the comfort access from all 3 visits, then you already qualify for the Lemon Law. But you must have documentation proof. And usually, after the 3rd visit and your filing for Lemon Law qualification, the car Manufacturer (e.g. BMW NA) usually asks for one last "courtesy" try at fixing the problem. Which is actually a good thing. Either they do fix the problem (finally) or, they have no grounds to fight from in attempt to argue the Lemon Law. NOTE: This was the case on my friend's last two Lemon Law debacles.

[stickypaws]

Originally Posted by 200Duece

your never stranded with BMW Roadside Assisstance

No, you still get stranded. All Roadside Assistance means is that someone will eventually show up and tow your car.

[200Duece]

and when they do you are not stranded



strand⋅ed⋅ness, noun

strand1  /strænd/ Show Spelled [strand] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1.to drive or leave (a ship, fish, etc.) aground or ashore: The receding tide stranded the whale.
2.(usually used in the passive) to bring into or leave in a helpless position: He was stranded in the middle of nowhere.

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by Chirobimmer

I have 6000 miles on my '08 335i and had the fuel pump replaced approximatley 2000 miles ago. Well guess what... it took about 5 minutes this morning for the car to fully start. It would start and stall over and over. So, I guess I'm going back to the dealership for another fuel pump.

I sympathize with your fuel pump problems. It would appear that the fault lies not so much with BMW, but with the various oil companies who are supplying either poor quality gas or gas/ethanol blends to their USA customers. The fact is that there have been very, very few problems with the 335i HPFP in Canada or in Europe.

Here's a suggestion : if you still like everything else about your 335i, ask your dealer to trade it for a 2009 355d. It is actually faster than a 335i with steptronic (0-60 mph in 5.3 secs according to Road & Track) and will blow most cars off the road when it comes to highway passing (50-70 mph in 2.9 secs). There is nothing quite so addictive as 425 lbs.ft of torque !!!

I had a 335i coupe previously, got tired of its practical limitations and purchased a 335d - what an awesome car ! Nothing else offers the same performance, handling, luxury and incredible fuel economy ! Take one for a test drive and you will soon understand its benefits. And no HPFP problems !

[stickypaws]

Originally Posted by 200Duece

and when they do you are not stranded

strand⋅ed⋅ness, noun

strand1  /strænd/ Show Spelled [strand] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1.to drive or leave (a ship, fish, etc.) aground or ashore: The receding tide stranded the whale.
2.(usually used in the passive) to bring into or leave in a helpless position: He was stranded in the middle of nowhere.

Despite your ability to use a dictionary, I still call breaking down on the side of the road unexpectedly and possibly out in the middle of nowhere, as being stranded. Nice thing to happen when you're on a trip far away from home or need to get to an important appointment, etc..

In your context, having a cell phone and calling the Auto Club works just as easily.

Anyway, you get my drift, no doubt.

[Joeb427]

Originally Posted by stickypaws

Despite your ability to use a dictionary, I still call breaking down on the side of the road unexpectedly and possibly out in the middle of nowhere, as being stranded. Nice thing to happen when you're on a trip far away from home or need to get to an important appointment, etc..

In your context, having a cell phone and calling the Auto Club works just as easily.

Anyway, you get my drift, no doubt.

I agree.
Stranded to me is when your vehicle dies and you're left waiting for BMW assist to get you home and the car to a dealer.
Hell,you can be stranded in front of your house if you don't have another vehicle to use at the time.

[samej]

Originally Posted by DerekS

I sympathize with your fuel pump problems. It would appear that the fault lies not so much with BMW, but with the various oil companies who are supplying either poor quality gas or gas/ethanol blends to their USA customers. The fact is that there have been very, very few problems with the 335i HPFP in Canada or in Europe.

Here's a suggestion : if you still like everything else about your 335i, ask your dealer to trade it for a 2009 355d. It is actually faster than a 335i with steptronic (0-60 mph in 5.3 secs according to Road & Track) and will blow most cars off the road when it comes to highway passing (50-70 mph in 2.9 secs). There is nothing quite so addictive as 425 lbs.ft of torque !!!

I had a 335i coupe previously, got tired of its practical limitations and purchased a 335d - what an awesome car ! Nothing else offers the same performance, handling, luxury and incredible fuel economy ! Take one for a test drive and you will soon understand its benefits. And no HPFP problems !

Are there actual sources showing this is a US specific problem? Fellow Canuck with a 07 335i would like some peace of mind...

[samchoi604]

There are cases of HPFP failure in Canada, but you hear less of them because there's far less 335i's here than in the US.

[samej]

Originally Posted by samchoi604

There are cases of HPFP failure in Canada, but you hear less of them because there's far less 335i's here than in the US.

not making me feel better , but on th ebright side, I guess I've got a good excuse to trade in/up as I approach the end of my CPO warranty

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by samej

Are there actual sources showing this is a US specific problem? Fellow Canuck with a 07 335i would like some peace of mind...

According to my sources in Vancouver, HPFP is a very rare problem with Canadian 335i. Same situation in the UK and Europe.
The widespread use of gas/ethanol is the USA is thought by some sources to an aggravating factor in the much higher failure rate of HPFP in the US 335i.

[quattr0]

I've seen 1-2 folks in Canada posted their hpfp failures vs. 30+ in US here

[que2k]

Originally Posted by quattr0

I've seen 1-2 folks in Canada posted their hpfp failures vs. 30+ in US here

I think its WAY more than 30+.........I was worried about the same thing when i ordered my 335.

I tried to read every post I could about the HPFP failures and I would say 99% of them were started by a US owner and almost all of the replys were from the US.

I started a post on Canadian failures to gather some stats and got like 2 replys.....


FYI I only fill up with Chevron 94 if it is a gas problem.........only 6500km after 11 months so fingers crossed

[02themax]

I've got just over 35000kms on my car and just started to experience longer than usual cranks in the morning. It only happens when the car is cold, seems like the fuel pressure has to get built up before she fires up? I made an appt at the dealer for the end of the month, I'll keep you guys posted.

[samej]

Originally Posted by 02themax

I've got just over 35000kms on my car and just started to experience longer than usual cranks in the morning. It only happens when the car is cold, seems like the fuel pressure has to get built up before she fires up? I made an appt at the dealer for the end of the month, I'll keep you guys posted.

I will avoid Ethanol like the plague Just drove into Montreal from Ottawa keeping it below 120kph (indicated - pbbly closer to 112 -115 actual). 7.3 l/100km (32mpg US). Wow!

[F32Fleet]

Have any of you heard about simliar problems with HPFP used in Audi's? I haven't so it makes me think it's more of a supplier issue with BMW or BMW chosen operating parameters.