r mid pipes worth it

CJ_LO · 06-28-2009, 03:37 PM

just saw the topic on r the downpipes worth it.
so now .. just wondering what about the mid pipes.

Zeph · 06-28-2009, 03:49 PM

I don't see why people would buy mid pipes personally. If you want to keep your cats and get new mufflers, then get what they are calling an axle-back "exhaust". If you want to delete the 2ndary cats then get a full exhaust (DP-back). If you just want to keep your "stock exhaust" and get rid of the 2ndary cats hell just take the exhaust off and knock all the stuff out of your cats (or just have simple pipes welded on in place of the stock cats you just cut off.

I just don't see where buying mid-pipes would ever be in demand

persian54 · 06-28-2009, 04:20 PM

aren't midpipes illegal on the road?

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 06-28-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

aren't midpipes illegal on the road?

Nearly Every mod is illegal on the road.
Intake, exhaust, mid pipes, down pipes, etc.
At least it is here in CA

persian54 · 06-28-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xPaulBaiLeyx

Nearly Every mod is illegal on the road.
Intake, exhaust, mid pipes, down pipes, etc.
At least it is here in CA

exhaust is only illegal if the sound is too loud (which almost usually always is

intake is not illegal unless it produces abnormal loud noise (which they usually don't)

DP and MP I'm not sure on.. maybe regarding smog regulations...

how could an intake be illegal? even here in cali...

CJ_LO · 06-28-2009, 04:37 PM

smog? you mean black smokes?

persian54 · 06-28-2009, 04:57 PM

catless are illegal in CA (i know nothing of other states)

OGBimmerGuy · 06-28-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeph

I don't see why people would buy mid pipes personally. If you want to keep your cats and get new mufflers, then get what they are calling an axle-back "exhaust". If you want to delete the 2ndary cats then get a full exhaust (DP-back). If you just want to keep your "stock exhaust" and get rid of the 2ndary cats hell just take the exhaust off and knock all the stuff out of your cats (or just have simple pipes welded on in place of the stock cats you just cut off.

I just don't see where buying mid-pipes would ever be in demand

I think it's probably because people want to have the sleeper OEM look - that and it is much more inexpensive than a full cat-back. Even though it may initially be a slight gain of 10-15whp with the midpipes, people forget the tuning potential that comes along with it. Those cats build back pressure and if they are not their your turbos will run more efficiently = for aggressive tuning and power.

OGBimmerGuy · 06-28-2009, 11:44 PM

Also, if you have the slip joints made for the midpipes I could see it being pretty easy to switch back to stock...Just slip of the catless and slip in the oem pipes.

CJ_LO · 06-29-2009, 12:46 AM

so mid-pipes are easy to install and uninstall back to stock?

lpphreakx06 · 06-29-2009, 12:58 AM

Not really.

eazydoezit · 06-29-2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by i.hope.

so mid-pipes are easy to install and uninstall back to stock?

There is no welding involved in installing the midpipes, but you do have to cut the stock exhaust. Now if you want to reinstall the stock cats then you need to weld your old pipes back on. Thats where the vendors get tricky on you saying "no welding required!!!" haha

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Zeph Major 27 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	I don't see why people would buy mid pipes personally. If you want to keep your cats and get new mufflers, then get what they are calling an axle-back "exhaust". If you want to delete the 2ndary cats then get a full exhaust (DP-back). If you just want to keep your "stock exhaust" and get rid of the 2ndary cats hell just take the exhaust off and knock all the stuff out of your cats (or just have simple pipes welded on in place of the stock cats you just cut off. I just don't see where buying mid-pipes would ever be in demand
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