Proceede help v3 rev 1 new maps boosting 21lbs wtf?

Dr.phuOnger? · 06-25-2009, 06:35 PM

I noticed with the new map thats out for the v3, i know its set to user adjustable tq at 75% cause shiv said to leave it at that but i'm only gettin peak boost at 10psi and it holds at 9-10 when i'm at WOT...

is this the way it supposed to perform with the new map?

XPO186 · 06-25-2009, 06:42 PM

Is valet mode active?

Dr.phuOnger? · 06-25-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPO186

Is valet mode active?

I doubled checked to make sure valet mode is not active.. i even cleared the ecu and then reloaded firmware and reloaded the map and didnt touch anything and left it default...

default valet mode is not enabled

cstmx_ryder · 06-25-2009, 06:49 PM

Wouldn't valet mode induce stock-like boost, which is around 7-8 psi? You can also lower it I believe.

If he's getting 10 psi, it's definitely the Procede working.........Any other mods?

Dr.phuOnger? · 06-25-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

Wouldn't valet mode induce stock-like boost, which is around 7-8 psi? You can also lower it I believe.

If he's getting 10 psi, it's definitely the Procede working.........Any other mods?

Vishnu DCI's and HKS catback exhaust and UR BOV...

this problem only happened after i updated to the new map...

i'm going to go home and try to adjust my map 1 to like 5psi to check and see if my proceede is confirmed working as it should

cstmx_ryder · 06-25-2009, 07:05 PM

You should be running stg 1?

Try running stage 2, or up the UT to 80% and do a test run!

I think on stg 1 you're suppose to see 12-13 psi........I would say check for boost leak, but you mentioned this only happened after updating to the new maps.......The 5-29 maps I assume?

Dr.phuOnger? · 06-25-2009, 07:33 PM

yup 5-29 maps. leme try stg 2 map and see if any diff

XPO186 · 06-25-2009, 07:54 PM

Rev 1 or 2?

I asked about valet mode because when I went to rev2, it seemed to have reverted to valet mode for some oddball reason. I thought it was odd that I wasn't boosting to 14-15psi and when I discovered it went to valet mode I had been boosting to around 9-10 psi.

EDIT: Sorry... didn't notice rev1 in the thread title

tek818 · 06-25-2009, 08:02 PM

very strange... I have v3 rev 1 and dci + catback running stg 1 as well. Peak recall on my gauge is usually 15.8-16.1.

Dr.phuOnger? · 06-25-2009, 08:09 PM

okay something is funky... if anyones avilalbe im availble by aim by phuongerr

lol...

so i data logged 2 runs

1st run i left it alone for user settings
2nd run i put both maps to 5 psi limit

i went out and ran both my data logs showed that i was all over the place for boost

both data logs showed my boost hitting all the way up to 19 at some points only at a fraction of a second then it would drop back down

it never capped out at what i set my limit.. car felt same on both runs

cincy335i · 06-25-2009, 09:07 PM

There must be something to this. I installed the PROcede, new, pre-loaded with non-doomsday maps 5-29. I just had the install about 2 weeks ago, and the PROcede was sent out to me in this last batch. The firmware is 117 and it was all installed by someone who has the PROcede and knows the install and set-up process.

Well, anyways a couple of days ago I decided to open it up and datalog (UT set @ 80%, I am running 93 octane, Stett CAI, and UUC/Corsa Exhaust). When I looked at the datalog for a brief few seconds or milliseonds, the boost shot up to 19psi, 21 psi and 21.3 psi. conseculatively. After those brief spikes it was back down in the middle of the run to what I would think would be a normal 14.6psi. What is causing this?? Doesn't the PROcede CANbus have the boost limit set to 16psi for a reason, how could it get out of that range? Obviously there are other people now with this issue. I am going to be calling Vishnu tomorrow and e-mailing Shiv, but I know he is out of pocket in NY. Hope the is a solution to this as those boost spikes scare the hell out of me. Any help would be appreciated, but again I will attempt to talk with Dustin or Shiv. Thanks.

golfinz · 06-25-2009, 09:21 PM

21psi sounds fun

luca335i · 06-25-2009, 09:47 PM

Lol. Hope those safety features kicked in.

cn555ic · 06-25-2009, 09:48 PM

There has to be something wrong with the Procede, because I have never seen anything higher than 16 on my guage, and thats ofcourse a spike from gear shifting

usc335 · 06-25-2009, 10:09 PM

Try reloading the firmware. It's possible it didn't load properly. What you are seeing is obviously not normal.

Dr.phuOnger? · 06-25-2009, 10:20 PM

yeah i figured its not normal.. i reloaded the firmware and the maps numerous times..

kentgbr · 06-25-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincy335i

There must be something to this. I installed the PROcede, new, pre-loaded with non-doomsday maps 5-29. I just had the install about 2 weeks ago, and the PROcede was sent out to me in this last batch. The firmware is 117 and it was all installed by someone who has the PROcede and knows the install and set-up process.

Well, anyways a couple of days ago I decided to open it up and datalog (UT set @ 80%, I am running 93 octane, Stett CAI, and UUC/Corsa Exhaust). When I looked at the datalog for a brief few seconds or milliseonds, the boost shot up to 19psi, 21 psi and 21.3 psi. conseculatively. After those brief spikes it was back down in the middle of the run to what I would think would be a normal 14.6psi. What is causing this?? Doesn't the PROcede CANbus have the boost limit set to 16psi for a reason, how could it get out of that range? Obviously there are other people now with this issue. I am going to be calling Vishnu tomorrow and e-mailing Shiv, but I know he is out of pocket in NY. Hope the is a solution to this as those boost spikes scare the hell out of me. Any help would be appreciated, but again I will attempt to talk with Dustin or Shiv. Thanks.

Post the log for analysis if you want some informed opinions. Also, there's a huge difference between seconds and milliseconds (1000x), which is it? The PROcede will go into valet mode if the 16psi boost limit is exceeded for a brief (255ms default) period. From what you describe, it doesn't sound like it hit that limit.

jpsimon · 06-25-2009, 11:28 PM

You set the max psi to 5? That setting is the max ALLOWED boost, not your target boost. If you go past the "max boost" for a second it triggers one of the safety settings. Turn that back up to 16

You raise/lower boost by adjusting the user torque settings, not that max boost setting. If you want to test out lower boost, lower your torque settings to 0% (for stock like boost)

MFKN3 · 06-25-2009, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincy335i

There must be something to this. I installed the PROcede, new, pre-loaded with non-doomsday maps 5-29. I just had the install about 2 weeks ago, and the PROcede was sent out to me in this last batch. The firmware is 117 and it was all installed by someone who has the PROcede and knows the install and set-up process.

Well, anyways a couple of days ago I decided to open it up and datalog (UT set @ 80%, I am running 93 octane, Stett CAI, and UUC/Corsa Exhaust). When I looked at the datalog for a brief few seconds or milliseonds, the boost shot up to 19psi, 21 psi and 21.3 psi. conseculatively. After those brief spikes it was back down in the middle of the run to what I would think would be a normal 14.6psi. What is causing this?? Doesn't the PROcede CANbus have the boost limit set to 16psi for a reason, how could it get out of that range? Obviously there are other people now with this issue. I am going to be calling Vishnu tomorrow and e-mailing Shiv, but I know he is out of pocket in NY. Hope the is a solution to this as those boost spikes scare the hell out of me. Any help would be appreciated, but again I will attempt to talk with Dustin or Shiv. Thanks.

I get a similar thing. Rev2 Canbus Stg 1 @ 75%. Boost peaks to over 18psi before settling to 15psi as I progress towards redline. This was in 2nd gear 6MT by the way. The first half is a bit jittery due to cold weather and my semi slicks not getting traction.

MFKN3 · 06-25-2009, 11:38 PM

I see Shiv has Stg 1 described as 75% on his upload site, but is that an typo? Shouldn't it be 70%? I'm pushing 15psi @ 75% with DCI, MP and Catback.

iPhoneHero · 06-25-2009, 11:52 PM

Oh, the irony!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Vishnu

Thanks for the kind words. We set out to make the best N54 tune, bar none. We will never play the more boost game with our customers.

Shiv

jpsimon · 06-26-2009, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPhoneHero

Oh, the irony!

This isn't the "more boost game".. it's nothing but a strange occurrence (sort of like when the car is first adapting)

This is how it looks for me (first one is on the road, the others are on the dyno with insufficient airflow):

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XPO186 Colonel 128 Rep 2,740 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, NY iTrader: (19)	Is valet mode active? __________________
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cstmx_ryder Colonel 164 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	Wouldn't valet mode induce stock-like boost, which is around 7-8 psi? You can also lower it I believe. If he's getting 10 psi, it's definitely the Procede working.........Any other mods? __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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cstmx_ryder Colonel 164 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	You should be running stg 1? Try running stage 2, or up the UT to 80% and do a test run! I think on stg 1 you're suppose to see 12-13 psi........I would say check for boost leak, but you mentioned this only happened after updating to the new maps.......The 5-29 maps I assume? __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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Dr.phuOnger? BluRp 371 Rep 10,417 Posts Drives: Blurple Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorCal Mobile Installer iTrader: (4)	yup 5-29 maps. leme try stg 2 map and see if any diff __________________ Blurple has her own Facebook page! Follow her for updates and photos! www.facebook.com/SEBlurple
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XPO186 Colonel 128 Rep 2,740 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Albany, NY iTrader: (19)	Rev 1 or 2? I asked about valet mode because when I went to rev2, it seemed to have reverted to valet mode for some oddball reason. I thought it was odd that I wasn't boosting to 14-15psi and when I discovered it went to valet mode I had been boosting to around 9-10 psi. EDIT: Sorry... didn't notice rev1 in the thread title __________________ Last edited by XPO186; 06-25-2009 at 09:13 PM..
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tek818 Lieutenant Colonel 136 Rep 1,954 Posts Drives: 2020 X3M Competition Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2018 M3 ZCP [9.50]	very strange... I have v3 rev 1 and dci + catback running stg 1 as well. Peak recall on my gauge is usually 15.8-16.1.
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Dr.phuOnger? BluRp 371 Rep 10,417 Posts Drives: Blurple Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorCal Mobile Installer iTrader: (4)	okay something is funky... if anyones avilalbe im availble by aim by phuongerr lol... so i data logged 2 runs 1st run i left it alone for user settings 2nd run i put both maps to 5 psi limit i went out and ran both my data logs showed that i was all over the place for boost both data logs showed my boost hitting all the way up to 19 at some points only at a fraction of a second then it would drop back down it never capped out at what i set my limit.. car felt same on both runs __________________ Blurple has her own Facebook page! Follow her for updates and photos! www.facebook.com/SEBlurple
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cincy335i Lieutenant 77 Rep 418 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saph 335i coupe 6mt Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio iTrader: (0)	There must be something to this. I installed the PROcede, new, pre-loaded with non-doomsday maps 5-29. I just had the install about 2 weeks ago, and the PROcede was sent out to me in this last batch. The firmware is 117 and it was all installed by someone who has the PROcede and knows the install and set-up process. Well, anyways a couple of days ago I decided to open it up and datalog (UT set @ 80%, I am running 93 octane, Stett CAI, and UUC/Corsa Exhaust). When I looked at the datalog for a brief few seconds or milliseonds, the boost shot up to 19psi, 21 psi and 21.3 psi. conseculatively. After those brief spikes it was back down in the middle of the run to what I would think would be a normal 14.6psi. What is causing this?? Doesn't the PROcede CANbus have the boost limit set to 16psi for a reason, how could it get out of that range? Obviously there are other people now with this issue. I am going to be calling Vishnu tomorrow and e-mailing Shiv, but I know he is out of pocket in NY. Hope the is a solution to this as those boost spikes scare the hell out of me. Any help would be appreciated, but again I will attempt to talk with Dustin or Shiv. Thanks.
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golfinz Captain 235 Rep 759 Posts Drives: Tanzanite M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (3)	21psi sounds fun
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luca335i Major 57 Rep 1,193 Posts Drives: 335I Sedan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Unknown iTrader: (3)	Lol. Hope those safety features kicked in. __________________
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	There has to be something wrong with the Procede, because I have never seen anything higher than 16 on my guage, and thats ofcourse a spike from gear shifting
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usc335 First Lieutenant 62 Rep 380 Posts Drives: '21 M2C, '08 E92 335 Join Date: May 2008 Location: so cal iTrader: (1)	Try reloading the firmware. It's possible it didn't load properly. What you are seeing is obviously not normal.
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Dr.phuOnger? BluRp 371 Rep 10,417 Posts Drives: Blurple Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorCal Mobile Installer iTrader: (4)	yeah i figured its not normal.. i reloaded the firmware and the maps numerous times.. __________________ Blurple has her own Facebook page! Follow her for updates and photos! www.facebook.com/SEBlurple
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3065 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	You set the max psi to 5? That setting is the max ALLOWED boost, not your target boost. If you go past the "max boost" for a second it triggers one of the safety settings. Turn that back up to 16 You raise/lower boost by adjusting the user torque settings, not that max boost setting. If you want to test out lower boost, lower your torque settings to 0% (for stock like boost)
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MFKN3 Colonel 127 Rep 2,224 Posts Drives: supercharged 4.4L stroker E92 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (2)	I see Shiv has Stg 1 described as 75% on his upload site, but is that an typo? Shouldn't it be 70%? I'm pushing 15psi @ 75% with DCI, MP and Catback.
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