Dyno Chart: Stock vs Rev II non-CAN 2/19 vs Rev II CAN 5/29

ericsmc83 · 06-19-2009, 02:22 PM

Blue Line (stock):
80.84 °F
30.06 in-Hg
35% humidity
280.59whp
289.47wtq

Red Line (PROcede Rev II non-CANbus 2/19 Stage 1 map):
63.57 °F
29.73 in-Hg
29% humidity
356.46whp
364.56wtq

Green Line (PROcede Rev II CANbus 5/29 Stage 1):
80.82 °F
29.82 in-Hg
31% humidity
353.32whp
356.20wtq

Besides the map and ambient conditions, everything else between the two is exactly the same:
* PROcede
* AE Quad Catless Exhaust
* Vishnu DCI
* Shell V-Power 92oct
* Same Dynojet dyno

Few things to note:
* CANbus run has a better AFR curve than non-CANbus run
* CANbus is running slightly lower boost than non-CANbus (about 0.5-0.75psi across the board)
* Car was very temperamental for the CANbus run. Was getting heat-soaked like no other so had to wait a long time between runs, otherwise I would lose a good chunk of power.

For some reason I can't get the boost curve to load on the graph. Boost is no longer an option for axis variables anymore with the new WinPEP software. Has anyone else experienced this?

All comments welcome!

oddjob2021 · 06-19-2009, 02:40 PM

interesting results, im switching from rev 1 to rev 2 canbus, curious to see what happens with me.

Zeph · 06-19-2009, 02:49 PM

Ya CANBUS is apparently running a bit richer. The temps on CANBUS day were way hotter as well, humidity was even slightly higher. Weird thing is I thought higher temps usually meant leaner AFR's but either way both tunes look about the same to me power-wise (peak and delta).

Septro · 06-19-2009, 03:29 PM

Looks like the extra 20 degree temps may have contributed to the lower power output. Nice dyno tho - when you getting DPs Eric?

scottp999 · 06-19-2009, 04:16 PM

Nice data, thanks!

It's interesting that the power is about the same with that much less boost. It will be nice to see some maps released soon that use the canbus variables for performance adjustments.

ericsmc83 · 06-19-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Septro

Looks like the extra 20 degree temps may have contributed to the lower power output. Nice dyno tho - when you getting DPs Eric?

The temps were definitely a hindrance that day. One of my heat soaked runs netted about 30whp LOWER than this run. They let me wait on the dyno for a good 6-8 minutes while the car cooled off, then I pulled these numbers.

DP's are on the back burner for now. My priority is still a final drive swap at this point.

How OH treating you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottp999

Nice data, thanks!

It's interesting that the power is about the same with that much less boost. It will be nice to see some maps released soon that use the canbus variables for performance adjustments.

I agree, and also that the power is being delivered in a safer manner (richer AFR). One of my runs had an AFR below 12 after 6k RPM.

Overall I'm happy with the results.

Driver72 · 06-19-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottp999

It's interesting that the power is about the same with that much less boost.

I'd have to guess, less boost, but more fuel so similiar power output.
Graphs look nice and smooth.

Sniz · 06-19-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

I'd have to guess, less boost, but more fuel so similiar power output.
Graphs look nice and smooth.

richer often times means less power, but safer

06-19-2009, 02:22 PM	#1
ericsmc83 Captain 65 Rep 986 Posts Drives: 08 E92 335i MT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV iTrader: (9)	Blue Line (stock): 80.84 °F 30.06 in-Hg 35% humidity 280.59whp 289.47wtq Red Line (PROcede Rev II non-CANbus 2/19 Stage 1 map): 63.57 °F 29.73 in-Hg 29% humidity 356.46whp 364.56wtq Green Line (PROcede Rev II CANbus 5/29 Stage 1): 80.82 °F 29.82 in-Hg 31% humidity 353.32whp 356.20wtq Besides the map and ambient conditions, everything else between the two is exactly the same: * PROcede * AE Quad Catless Exhaust * Vishnu DCI * Shell V-Power 92oct * Same Dynojet dyno Few things to note: * CANbus run has a better AFR curve than non-CANbus run * CANbus is running slightly lower boost than non-CANbus (about 0.5-0.75psi across the board) * Car was very temperamental for the CANbus run. Was getting heat-soaked like no other so had to wait a long time between runs, otherwise I would lose a good chunk of power. For some reason I can't get the boost curve to load on the graph. Boost is no longer an option for axis variables anymore with the new WinPEP software. Has anyone else experienced this? All comments welcome!
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oddjob2021 ASR Turbos+LSD+Meth= :D 73 Rep 1,517 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	interesting results, im switching from rev 1 to rev 2 canbus, curious to see what happens with me. __________________ 2007 335i Coupe Mods: Check the Garage
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Zeph Major 27 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA iTrader: (0)	Ya CANBUS is apparently running a bit richer. The temps on CANBUS day were way hotter as well, humidity was even slightly higher. Weird thing is I thought higher temps usually meant leaner AFR's but either way both tunes look about the same to me power-wise (peak and delta).
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Septro Banned 77 Rep 1,649 Posts Drives: '08 e90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: C-Bus, OH iTrader: (1)	Looks like the extra 20 degree temps may have contributed to the lower power output. Nice dyno tho - when you getting DPs Eric?
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scottp999 Brigadier General 133 Rep 4,764 Posts Drives: 4runner SR5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MD iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335 [9.00]	Nice data, thanks! It's interesting that the power is about the same with that much less boost. It will be nice to see some maps released soon that use the canbus variables for performance adjustments.
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