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      07-19-2008, 12:23 AM   #1
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BMW Puts A Freeze On All N54 High Pressure Fuel Pumps

I guess BMW finally gave in to the reliability issues with n54 fuel pumps. We received an email today from our field service engineer to check manufacturer build date stampings and part number stampings on all replacement high pressure fuel pumps. If they fall within certain guidelines we are to take the new pumps out of our parts inventory and return them.

The issue remains the same, manufacturing defects causing internal seals to be contaminated and causing failure of the pump. This includes the 'newer' 655 part number that we've been using as replacements.

BMW is putting a freeze on all high pressure pumps from their inventory until a new supply of pumps become available. Perhaps we're headed for the days of when fuel pumps were on back order for weeks. Hopefully BMW will come to a more timely resolution this time.

My conclusion from this is that there are many many bad fuel pumps out there on the road and that bad fuel pumps are being/have been replaced with another bad fuel pump.

The service action for high pressure fuel pump replacement has also been put on hold for now.
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      07-19-2008, 12:30 AM   #2
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I suppose this could be considered good news. I'd rather see a permenant resolution. That said, if it were my car sitting in the shop for more than 3 weeks waiting while they fixed it, I'd Lemon Law it in a heartbeat.
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      07-19-2008, 12:33 AM   #3
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I suppose this could be considered good news. I'd rather see a permenant resolution. That said, if it were my car sitting in the shop for more than 3 weeks waiting while they fixed it, I'd Lemon Law it in a heartbeat.
I can't believe there hasn't been an official recall on them yet.
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      07-19-2008, 12:52 AM   #4
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interesting. Do tell when more info becomes available.
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      07-19-2008, 01:28 AM   #5
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We would like the range of part number falling under the recall.
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      07-19-2008, 02:31 AM   #6
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Another reason I'm glad I waiting until year 2 of the 1.
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      07-19-2008, 07:08 AM   #7
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Another reason I'm glad I waiting until year 2 of the 1.
Why wait? Go get a 335i same problem and its not 1st year production for it
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      07-19-2008, 07:24 AM   #8
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The service action for high pressure fuel pump replacement has also been put on hold for now.
Hmm. What exactly does 'service action' mean? Is this a good time to panic? I like panic... :headbang:

Thanks for the info!
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Why wait? Go get a 335i same problem and its not 1st year production for it
I've got more than that for a reason. I have 2 head tech's and 2 trusted service writers that tell me to stay away from the first year of any BMW. And that goes for most car makers anyway. So I'm buying a 2009 myself, and this is something that is more than a concern for me, as it should be for anybody. It's only the fuel pump... They are smart to just stop the madness, and have another one made to replace the poorly designed one. Also, seeing you have a 128i, then you should have no concern anyways.
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      07-19-2008, 08:52 AM   #10
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I have read that the pump is capable of 200 bar. 200 X 14.7 = 2940psi. Is this correct? No wonder they are failure prone.
The replacement should be a work of art. We will see...
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      07-19-2008, 10:13 AM   #11
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Finally BMW is really admitting to this problem. I think a recall would require a real fix, which they haven't been able to do. When BMW figures out a real fix, then a recall would be inline. I am also glad I have to wait until spring 09 to order a 135i manual. By then they should be able to fix the turbo lag that is a FACT.
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      07-19-2008, 10:41 AM   #12
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I suppose this could be considered good news. I'd rather see a permenant resolution. That said, if it were my car sitting in the shop for more than 3 weeks waiting while they fixed it, I'd Lemon Law it in a heartbeat.
Isn't lemon law only for safety related items?
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      07-19-2008, 10:46 AM   #13
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Another reason I'm glad I waiting until year 2 of the 1.
Actually this is only the first year of the one in this country. It has been available in Europe for a few years.
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      07-19-2008, 11:01 AM   #14
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Isn't lemon law only for safety related items?

No if an owner isnt able to drive his vehicle for an extended period of time because of a warrantied item, the lemon law could apply
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      07-19-2008, 11:07 AM   #15
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Actually this is only the first year of the one in this country. It has been available in Europe for a few years.
Agreed it's not the first year of the series, but it is the first year of the E82 as there were only hatchbacks for those few years... either way, it sure is not the first year for the N54...
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We would like the range of part number falling under the recall.
it affects all bmw part numbers. there are two checks to be made. the first is a manufacturing date stamping on the pump. if it has a 200x/xx type stamping, they are considered bad. if it has a 5 digit date stamping without the'/' another check is to be made. this check is a manufacturing stamp and if it is one of five set of numbers, it is also considered bad. i don't have the email in front of me, i'll bring it home on monday.
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Hmm. What exactly does 'service action' mean? Is this a good time to panic? I like panic... :headbang:

Thanks for the info!
there was a service action for fuel pump replacement on certain production range of 335's i believe mad dragon post this service action on another thread.
a service action is basically a recall that isn't safety related.
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I have read that the pump is capable of 200 bar. 200 X 14.7 = 2940psi. Is this correct? No wonder they are failure prone.
The replacement should be a work of art. We will see...
yes 200 bar is correct for max capacity. at idle pressure should be 50 bar.
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      07-19-2008, 11:54 AM   #19
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Isn't lemon law only for safety related items?


In NJ its fairely all inclusive. 3 attempts or 30 days.
Although, I think one could consider this a safety issue. It can cause the car to stall while driving, and that's a BIG safety issue.
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Actually this is only the first year of the one in this country. It has been available in Europe for a few years.
Yes indeed, however the first year of the 135i across the board.

Clearly there are still some bugs that need to be worked out.
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      07-19-2008, 10:06 PM   #21
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Anybody know if certain build dates are effected buy this?
MY car was built June 11. If the fuel pump was faulty in all the cars why wouldn't they all fail?
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      07-19-2008, 10:16 PM   #22
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recalls can be issued for RISK of failure. Not every BMW N54 engine is bad. There is a high enough percentage however, that have faulty fuel pumps
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