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      02-18-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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best handling daily driver tires

I'm looking for recommendations on tires. I had a set of falken 451's on my last bmw and was happy with them. I have a set of 452's on my a6 and equally happy with them. I will be using my 1 as my daily driver. I'm not attached to falken though and would be open to whichever tires perform the best and can handle 20+ hour road trips. Thanks in advance!
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Answer a couple of questions to help us out:

1. Do you want to stay with runflats or will consider non-runflats.

2. Do you want absolute maximum grip at the expense of shorter tire life? Give us an idea where you fall on the grip/wear matrix.

3. Will the tires see any driving events or autocross?
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      02-18-2008, 04:08 PM   #3
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Just a couple things to add to Mikeo's post... Where in Texas are you? If you're in the panhandle and will see any ice/snow it will make a difference as opposed to Houston where snow is only served in cones. A lot of the max-performance tires don't like freezing temperatures.
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i dunno about best. but i know you shouldn't get yokohama es100. They were the worst tires i've had so far. well... other than the stockers that came with my suby.
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I live outside of austin which rarely drops below freezing. I do NOT want to use run flats and the tires will go on some set of light weight racing rims (currently undecided on those as well) I will be driving all over town everyday on these tires so I need some ammount of tread life. I would sacrifice some tread life for grip and will likely see little track time. hope this helps! thanks again.
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IMO, Eagle F1 GSD3s, or Michelin PS2s. Both are good street tires that have worn well for me, perform remarkably in the rain, and offer top of the line handling for the street. Either tire wouldn't be bad for a beginner in DE events or Auto X either. Below 40, traction will be compromised, but given your climate, I think either tire would be a good year-round choice.

I've gotten more than 15k out of both of these tires, but at 20k they start to look a little worn. If you're looking for much more treadlife than that, you have to step down a performance category.
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I like PS2. I have had these as OEM tyres on a couple of my Porsches, and imo they are fantastc. Don't last very long though.
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      02-20-2008, 01:51 AM   #8
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would the ps2 run flats sacrifice any performance over the regular ones?
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I'm looking for recommendations on tires. I had a set of falken 451's on my last bmw and was happy with them. I have a set of 452's on my a6 and equally happy with them. I will be using my 1 as my daily driver. I'm not attached to falken though and would be open to whichever tires perform the best and can handle 20+ hour road trips. Thanks in advance!
i have the 452's on my 19's right now on my 330i and compared to hankook ventus these are great. if i had the choice (price/performance) i'd put my money on another set of these .. my other choice would be toyo t1r's.
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Falken RT-615's will work fantastic in the dry, pretty darn well in the rain (at anything over 1/4-1/2 tread depth), and should give you 15-20k miles per set. Finally, they are super-inexpensive. DTD carries sizes that should work pretty well on the stock wheels. Nate
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      02-20-2008, 10:14 AM   #11
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I like my Falken 452s as well. More so than the Hankook Ventus K104s I had before. I had the Goodyear F1 GS-D3s previously and while they are a great tire (awesome at resisting hydroplaning too), they became popular and the once decent deal became not as good as prices increased. The Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics were reviewed very well on Tirerack. I would check into those too.
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Prices for the RT615 are a little better than DTD at www.edgeracing.com.
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      02-20-2008, 02:49 PM   #13
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Ah yes, forgot about edge. Nate
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Prices for the RT615 are a little better than DTD at www.edgeracing.com.

amazing tire.

for DD and for the auto x and lots of sizing options
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      02-20-2008, 11:06 PM   #15
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Something to consider: Give up Starbucks for a while and use the savings to splurge on a set of R-compound tires.

For the 5,000 or 6,000 miles the tires last, your car will fall somewhere between Godzilla ... and God.

My personal experience is with Toyo Proxes RA-1s. The change is incredible. Suddenly, you'll be driving into corners so fast that they'll put you on suicide watch.

And don't forget that R compounds improve braking just as much. The air under my ass suggests that you can pull almost a g in hard braking.

These would make great fronts: http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/1132/

Enjoy them for a summer, then switch back to relatively "sane" tires, start drinking Starbucks again -- and live with your memories.
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RT-615

The Azenis are soooo grippy and yet soooo cheap!!!!

My .02 is keep buying and replacing these fun throw away tires.....
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I have driven on the Bridgestone S0-3, Michelin Pilot Sport, and Yokohama AD07. I loved the Yokos but went through 2 sets in 8K on a 2000lb car. They grip great but don't last long at all and don't perform well in the wet... especially on a heavier car. Between the Bridgestone and Michelin rubber I would go with Michelin. Expensive, but considering it's the only part of the car that touches the road, it's the area where I would not skimp. Cheap tires are cheap tires.
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I've been running the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1's for about 6 months and I would put them up against anything on the road right now. I've run two schools on them, I've autocrossed them, I run them in the wet and dry (they are also my daily drivers) and I can confidently say that these are now my favorite tires. They love the heat, so the hotter they get, the better they stick. Even after a full day at the track, running in the advanced group, they never over-heated and they hung with all the R-compound cars just fine. But I think the thing I like about them more than anything is the price! The size I run on the M3 (235/40-17) is only $130 a tire at Tire Rack.

They also have plenty of sizes in 18" so when the time comes for new tires on the 135...I'm going with the Z1's...no question.
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      02-22-2008, 02:08 AM   #19
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great info gentlemen, keep it coming!
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Looks like the Dunlop Direzza Z1 is now in the 1st Tier category with the Yoko AD07 and Bridgestone RE-01R, and at a better price point.
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Looks like the Dunlop Direzza Z1 is now in the 1st Tier category with the Yoko AD07 and Bridgestone RE-01R, and at a better price point.
i agree.. if your looking for the best street tire, look no further than AD07 or RE-01R
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i agree.. if your looking for the best street tire, look no further than AD07 or RE-01R
I also heard very good things about the RE-01R. Was this close to getting them, but decided to go all-season on my 335 instead (short lease).

My plan for the 135i is to put Pirelli PZero Nero M+S or Goodyear F1 All Season (CF sidewalls) on the stock wheels for winter driving - and getting a set of lightweight Kosei/OZ/SSR rims with RE-01R for the summer and initial track days.
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