[lake_eleven]

All,
In my '21 X5 PHEV DAP Professional, I had android auto connected and control panel displaying android auto UI. In a parking lot, that was well lit, I was exiting out forward at ~20 mph speed. The SUV crashed in to a metal barrier in the front - the barrier was not visible from the driver seat. The kidney grill is bent and broken and damage above and below the grill. There was absolutely no warning (audible and visible) or intervention from DAPP or the other Safety Features.
My expectation was the vehicle should have detected the barrier and intervened - irrespective of Android auto connected or not.


Should BMW cover the service cost for the damage as this is a complete failure of its safety feature. Anybody have similar experience with AA connected. Pls share.

[TurtleBoy]

Sorry to hear that you hit it. DAP has nothing to do with that situation and doubt AA being connected had any effect either. Sounds like it was just bad luck that the barrier wasn't picked up by the sensor. Either way, BMW has no responsibility since the safety features are not guaranteed to work, they are just assistance that may and may not come into play.

[nZtiZia]

that sucks, but are you implying the AA UI on the control display may have caused the DAP to fail?

there is no interplay between DAP and AA as the latter is simply a wireless connection to your Android phone. if DAP did intervene, its visual warnings would display both in the instrument cluster and control display regardless of what's already showing.

[sigmabody]

There's a reason why every vehicle manufacturer clearly states that the safety systems are not intended to be relied upon and/or replace driver attention and responsibility for control of the vehicle. You'd have a potential case if the safety system triggered on a false-positive and its positive control of the vehicle caused an accident (see: swerving out of lanes at speed because the lane departure system can have false positives), but for a non-intervention, I'd speculate that you have no cause whatsoever.

[lake_eleven]

😒Thanks... Will insurance cover such cases for the repair costs.

[lake_eleven]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

that sucks, but are you implying the AA UI on the control display may have caused the DAP to fail?

there is no interplay between DAP and AA as the latter is simply a wireless connection to your Android phone. if DAP did intervene, its visual warnings would display both in the instrument cluster and control display regardless of what's already showing.

Yes, i will post a video to simulate this interplay.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by lake_eleven

��Thanks... Will insurance cover such cases for the repair costs.

Assuming you have comprehensive, yes they will.

Again, there is no feature of DAP that would come into play in this scenario. The only safety feature that may come into play at that speed is frontal collision warning but that is usually for other vehicles.

As mentioned before, AA would have no effect on getting the warning. AA is on the control display and the warnings would be in the HUD and IC.

[Guy Fleegman]

Interesting. My system goes crazy with alarms when I get near a curb. Sometimes when backing up it freaks out over a shadow on the pavement. How could it miss a metal barrier?

I can understand why you're puzzled and hope all goes well with the insurance claim.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Guy Fleegman

Interesting. My system goes crazy with alarms when I get near a curb. Sometimes when backing up it freaks out over a shadow on the pavement. How could it miss a metal barrier?

I would assume you are going much slower. PDC is only available under 5mph or so.

[DonKeedic]

If you were paralyzed or sustained a traumatic brain injury, it might be worth investigating a claim as the damages would be catastrophic. Since your loss is a deductible on your comp coverage, a products liability claim is not financially viable.

[DonKeedic]

I'll also mention that it's possible that the system behaved exactly as designed based on the speed you were traveling. And AA does not override safety features. That would make for a monster claim if somebody was seriously injured because BMW programmers turned off safety features when drivers were using AA.

[Berzerker]

Adding onto what others are saying. AA or CarPlay has **zero** interaction with the other systems of the car and you are 100% wasting your time if you pursue that.

BMW will also not cover anything that's not specifically a mechanical fault with the car. You are in complete control of where the car physically goes without one, even using the DAPP systems active. They're supposed to automate *your* actions, not drive for you without you being aware/active.

Sucks that this happened to you, but you're going through insurance for this.

[mobilejo]

The barrier was probably too low for the front collision sensors, and the speed was too high for PDC activation.