Calling all UK MMI owners!

Tony_B · 08-04-2021, 12:11 PM

Hi

Just had to return an old/faulty/buggy Andream unit (V1) to Aliexpress (they said it was a new one - clearly not - it was a customer return). Mine also had custom Firmware on it which proved fatal on the MCU update.

Now in the market to replace it (as I loved AA when it worked).

So anyone actually happy with a supplier in particular? Did they get a modern box that seemed to have all the benefits of modern firmware? It seems a minefield out there!

Thanks in advance for any help provided!

Tony_B · 08-05-2021, 09:23 AM

Actually - update to this thread
ordered from Kush @ codeyourbeemer who is a contibuter on these forums.

new, modern v2 box

Revoltos · 08-05-2021, 01:14 PM

Alright Tony,
How did you know your box was custom software? I bought a box from the suggested source of here and it doesnt seem to match any revisions in the massive mmi thread. Im a little confused.

Tony_B · 08-05-2021, 02:59 PM

Hiya, I could tell because of the CUST version ending in.mod:

SDK Version 25.0.5.6.0.0.0
CUST Version: v2.0.0.B0.mod
MCU Version: 19.8.22.15
HW Version: BMW

That directly tallies with the custom (modified) version on the first page for an Andream NBT v1A version

So from that I could tell that they shipped me an old version with modified firmware.

They also lied repeatedly and said it was a v2, no newer firmware was available. Blah blah. Got it returned under PayPal dispute as a faulty unit, and PayPal paying the return shipping costs.

You also need to return to Honk Kong, not EU. So bunch of liars. That's the AICOAI Official store, so they need to be shamed/avoided..

Revoltos · 08-06-2021, 03:45 AM

Hey Tony,

I see what you are talking about now. What I dont understand is how they thought you would ever believe what they were saying to you when the software version is clearly a mod? Crazy!

My software version is B2_v1.5.2. From what I understand that version came in after the mod version your unit was running?

Tony_B · 08-06-2021, 06:59 AM

Yes - that is a new software version (not the newest). Certainly well past my .mod version. And you have the newest hardware revision - mines was an old customer return (was scratched from a previous install and was a v1 revision of the hardware). Hence their lies were REALLY obvious!

Your info also tells me that yours is an Andream NBT vB2 box variant 04. Your current firmware version sits between the previous version and the new latest version.

Hope this helps
Tony

Apples12 · 08-07-2021, 05:22 AM

Hi
How well does this actually work?
Will it connect via Bluetooth or cable only?

My wife has it in her golf and it's quite useful, wondering if I should get the mmi instead of renewing the RTTI for another 12months at the same cost

Tony_B · 08-08-2021, 08:32 AM

It works well
wireless Apple carplay and wireless/wired Android Auto (depends on Android phone if it supports wireless AA or not). Beats the BMW Nav I'd say (and is always up to date)

needs a fairly basic install beind/below head unit or under steering column.

I'd say worth it

rG-tom · 08-11-2021, 10:35 AM

also keen to understand what the best current model / supplier is - so much noise in the huge global thread!

I don't suppose any of them have managed to integrate the HUD directions or waze/google speed limit displays into android auto yet, have they?

RatPC · 08-12-2021, 06:18 AM

I'm almost certainly going to go down the MMI route, to keep the warranty happy at the moment, as i would just love Apple Car Play, and its cheaper than a couple of map updates to BMW

Can you either post her or let me know the costs for your one? More than happy to fit myself.

Rathian · 08-12-2021, 08:30 AM

I have an MMI box that will be for sale come the end of September (changing for a 10.25" Android head unit).

It will be coming out of a 2014 F31 with 6.5" screen no Nav. Been using it happily for the last 2 years.

See this link for more details

https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/carp...ies-2013-2016/

Happily sell this on for a small fee to a BMW forum member.

Tony_B · 08-15-2021, 04:26 AM

Can't say that I can recommend anyone at the moment - still awaiting order to arrive from codeyourbeemer!

Will update when I know more

Tony_B · 08-18-2021, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rG-tom

also keen to understand what the best current model / supplier is - so much noise in the huge global thread!

I don't suppose any of them have managed to integrate the HUD directions or waze/google speed limit displays into android auto yet, have they?

As far as I'm aware there is zero connectivity between the MMI and i-drive (except in the MCU integration for hardware button mapping; wheel buttons, radio/volume buttons, i-drive controller etc) - they just switch the video signal from one to the other. so....

Navigation in MMI (waze/maps etc) will not show on the extended cluster (arrows speed etc).

Navigation in i-drive will not impact in anyway the navigation provided by the MMI box for carplay or AA.

But observations - speed limits appear in AA & carplay MMI apps on the maps themselves

You could always set nav guidance in Idrive so you get cluster/HUD instructions
then switch to MMI to get full screen maps/waze - then choose which audio source you want for voice guidance - Aux for MMI or other for native idrive guidance.

Hope this makes sense

kierownik · 08-19-2021, 01:14 AM

Can anyone recommend a good MMI box for up to 200 quid? Something that's already been tested and proven faultless. Thanks

Tony_B · 08-19-2021, 02:17 AM

Waiting for my second(!) MMI box to turn up from codeyourbeemer. First got lost in the post.

Supposed to be a ew-bmcp-nbt04x (ver 2b) with uptodate firmware (support for youtube).

Will update when it arrives
PS faultless? Well that's a subjective thing, I think all aftermarket media boxes leave a little to be desired, not quite 80/20 more 95/5 there if you get my drift...

Tony_B · 08-20-2021, 05:33 AM

It arrived as promised on the second attempt - appears all good with the latest hardware version (NBT04X) will fit over the weekend and let you know.
And £200 inc delivery

TiredGeek · 08-20-2021, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_B

It arrived as promised on the second attempt - appears all good with the latest hardware version (NBT04X) will fit over the weekend and let you know.
And £200 inc delivery

Pictures please

kierownik · 08-21-2021, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_B

It arrived as promised on the second attempt - appears all good with the latest hardware version (NBT04X) will fit over the weekend and let you know.
And £200 inc delivery

Looking forward to it.
And if you could post some pics it would be great.

Tony_B · 08-23-2021, 05:11 AM

As promised - new box v2b - with very new firmware.

Have added a USB socket to house the cable from the MMI box and added a rear camera

You can tell it's a new box - not a screw type antenna - it's the blue plug one. And no '360 in' block

Tony_B · 08-23-2021, 05:21 AM

Once set it does AA auto wirelessly - the old buggy box needed a cable...
phone uses car bluetooth, Siri and OK google, & long press of speech buttons work.

Took the car to Porstmouth and back yesterday (hence bugs on the windshield!) to see family - worked flawlessly

Only issues are when girlfriend connected her Iphone there was no 'exit' BMW icon in carplay, so don't know how to exit back to MMI menu from carplay. Android Auto has an exit button.
And the car icon for the sensors is generic - would be good to have 'your' car

RatPC · 08-23-2021, 07:17 AM

Random Q! Can you change the car shown in the reversing camera? I am not looking forward to running the cable for that!

I think when i am ready to order, I know where I am going!

Tony_B · 08-23-2021, 07:21 AM

That's my point! It's generic. I've not seen a guide to update this graphic (not sure it's even possible)

08-04-2021, 12:11 PM	#1
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Calling all UK MMI owners! Hi Just had to return an old/faulty/buggy Andream unit (V1) to Aliexpress (they said it was a new one - clearly not - it was a customer return). Mine also had custom Firmware on it which proved fatal on the MCU update. Now in the market to replace it (as I loved AA when it worked). So anyone actually happy with a supplier in particular? Did they get a modern box that seemed to have all the benefits of modern firmware? It seems a minefield out there! Thanks in advance for any help provided! Last edited by Tony_B; 08-05-2021 at 08:44 AM..
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08-05-2021, 09:23 AM	#2
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Actually - update to this thread ordered from Kush @ codeyourbeemer who is a contibuter on these forums. new, modern v2 box Last edited by Tony_B; 08-20-2021 at 05:31 AM..
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08-05-2021, 01:14 PM	#3
Revoltos Second Lieutenant 53 Rep 268 Posts Drives: BMW F30 335i Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Alright Tony, How did you know your box was custom software? I bought a box from the suggested source of here and it doesnt seem to match any revisions in the massive mmi thread. Im a little confused.
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08-05-2021, 02:59 PM	#4
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Hiya, I could tell because of the CUST version ending in.mod: SDK Version 25.0.5.6.0.0.0 CUST Version: v2.0.0.B0.mod MCU Version: 19.8.22.15 HW Version: BMW That directly tallies with the custom (modified) version on the first page for an Andream NBT v1A version So from that I could tell that they shipped me an old version with modified firmware. They also lied repeatedly and said it was a v2, no newer firmware was available. Blah blah. Got it returned under PayPal dispute as a faulty unit, and PayPal paying the return shipping costs. You also need to return to Honk Kong, not EU. So bunch of liars. That's the AICOAI Official store, so they need to be shamed/avoided.. Last edited by Tony_B; 08-06-2021 at 02:14 AM..
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08-06-2021, 03:45 AM	#5
Revoltos Second Lieutenant 53 Rep 268 Posts Drives: BMW F30 335i Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Hey Tony, I see what you are talking about now. What I dont understand is how they thought you would ever believe what they were saying to you when the software version is clearly a mod? Crazy! My software version is B2_v1.5.2. From what I understand that version came in after the mod version your unit was running?
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08-06-2021, 06:59 AM	#6
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Yes - that is a new software version (not the newest). Certainly well past my .mod version. And you have the newest hardware revision - mines was an old customer return (was scratched from a previous install and was a v1 revision of the hardware). Hence their lies were REALLY obvious! Your info also tells me that yours is an Andream NBT vB2 box variant 04. Your current firmware version sits between the previous version and the new latest version. Hope this helps Tony Attached Images Last edited by Tony_B; 08-06-2021 at 07:19 AM..
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08-07-2021, 05:22 AM	#7
Apples12 First Lieutenant 108 Rep 364 Posts Drives: 520D LCI auto Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Uk iTrader: (0)	Hi How well does this actually work? Will it connect via Bluetooth or cable only? My wife has it in her golf and it's quite useful, wondering if I should get the mmi instead of renewing the RTTI for another 12months at the same cost
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08-08-2021, 08:32 AM	#8
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	It works well wireless Apple carplay and wireless/wired Android Auto (depends on Android phone if it supports wireless AA or not). Beats the BMW Nav I'd say (and is always up to date) needs a fairly basic install beind/below head unit or under steering column. I'd say worth it
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08-11-2021, 10:35 AM	#9
rG-tom Second Lieutenant 70 Rep 275 Posts Drives: MY2021 M550i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bedfordshire iTrader: (1)	also keen to understand what the best current model / supplier is - so much noise in the huge global thread! I don't suppose any of them have managed to integrate the HUD directions or waze/google speed limit displays into android auto yet, have they? __________________ Previous: 2002 E46 330i M-Sport (m54b30 LCI), 2007 E92 335D M-Sport Coupe (m57), 2003 z4 3.0i (m54b30), 2010 E92 325D M-Sport Coupe (n57 LCI), 2019 F36 430i M-Sport Pro Gran Coupe, 2018 F36 440i M-Sport Pro Gran Coupe MPPSK Current: MY2021 M550i, Aventurin Red, Ivory Nappa, Comfort Pack, Tech+
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08-12-2021, 06:18 AM	#10
RatPC Enlisted Member 14 Rep 40 Posts Drives: F31 LCI Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: In the rear view mirror iTrader: (1)	I'm almost certainly going to go down the MMI route, to keep the warranty happy at the moment, as i would just love Apple Car Play, and its cheaper than a couple of map updates to BMW Can you either post her or let me know the costs for your one? More than happy to fit myself.
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Rathian Private First Class 155 Rep 171 Posts Drives: iX3 M Sport Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Staffordshire iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW iX3 [0.00]	I have an MMI box that will be for sale come the end of September (changing for a 10.25" Android head unit). It will be coming out of a 2014 F31 with 6.5" screen no Nav. Been using it happily for the last 2 years. See this link for more details https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/carp...ies-2013-2016/ Happily sell this on for a small fee to a BMW forum member. __________________ Current Car: iX3 MSport Sophisto Grey Previous Car: F31 320d ED
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08-15-2021, 04:26 AM	#12
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Can't say that I can recommend anyone at the moment - still awaiting order to arrive from codeyourbeemer! Will update when I know more
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08-19-2021, 01:14 AM	#14
kierownik First Lieutenant 92 Rep 320 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW 320i Sport Black Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Manchester, UK iTrader: (0)	Can anyone recommend a good MMI box for up to 200 quid? Something that's already been tested and proven faultless. Thanks
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08-19-2021, 02:17 AM	#15
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Waiting for my second(!) MMI box to turn up from codeyourbeemer. First got lost in the post. Supposed to be a ew-bmcp-nbt04x (ver 2b) with uptodate firmware (support for youtube). Will update when it arrives PS faultless? Well that's a subjective thing, I think all aftermarket media boxes leave a little to be desired, not quite 80/20 more 95/5 there if you get my drift...
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08-20-2021, 05:33 AM	#16
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	It arrived as promised on the second attempt - appears all good with the latest hardware version (NBT04X) will fit over the weekend and let you know. And £200 inc delivery Last edited by Tony_B; 08-20-2021 at 06:09 AM..
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08-23-2021, 05:11 AM	#19
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	As promised - new box v2b - with very new firmware. Have added a USB socket to house the cable from the MMI box and added a rear camera You can tell it's a new box - not a screw type antenna - it's the blue plug one. And no '360 in' block Attached Images Last edited by Tony_B; 08-23-2021 at 05:52 AM..
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08-23-2021, 05:21 AM	#20
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	Once set it does AA auto wirelessly - the old buggy box needed a cable... phone uses car bluetooth, Siri and OK google, & long press of speech buttons work. Took the car to Porstmouth and back yesterday (hence bugs on the windshield!) to see family - worked flawlessly Only issues are when girlfriend connected her Iphone there was no 'exit' BMW icon in carplay, so don't know how to exit back to MMI menu from carplay. Android Auto has an exit button. And the car icon for the sensors is generic - would be good to have 'your' car Last edited by Tony_B; 08-23-2021 at 07:22 AM..
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08-23-2021, 07:17 AM	#21
RatPC Enlisted Member 14 Rep 40 Posts Drives: F31 LCI Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: In the rear view mirror iTrader: (1)	Random Q! Can you change the car shown in the reversing camera? I am not looking forward to running the cable for that! I think when i am ready to order, I know where I am going!
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08-23-2021, 07:21 AM	#22
Tony_B Newbie 21 Rep 82 Posts Drives: BWM 435d Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: South West iTrader: (0)	That's my point! It's generic. I've not seen a guide to update this graphic (not sure it's even possible)
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