[PLF69]

Hi everyone, I don't know if there really is an official way to ask the moderators for a new section but I guess they should see this post.

I am sure there are many owners who would like to discuss there track experience like me with there G20/21/22 vehicles. This section is very useful to share important information with these kind of activities.

Please chime in if this something you would also like to have

thank you

[Blubaron79]

I agree with your request.

[RSnic]

I agree as well

[jlapicki]

Let's do this!!

[Lonmon]

I am also for it!

[PLF69]

Did a moderator see this thread ?

I think there are more and more ppl interested in this !

[NorCalAthlete]

You know, I bought my M440 without any intention of ever tracking it, just sporty drives through the twisties, but...

...the more I drive it, the more it begs to be pushed, and the more the temptation grows in my mind to hit Laguna Seca for an open session.

[Top Gon]

I also agree with this request.

I'll be tracking my m340 for the first time at Sonoma raceway next week.
Will report back on findings

[jlapicki]

I tracked my M340i this Spring and posted several times....first time on track with an automatic transmission but it worked well, had enough power but could use better brake pads....

[Benjamin_Nicholas]

I'd love a drag section.

RuPaul's All-Stars is almost over and we haven't even talked about the final three.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by jlapicki

I tracked my M340i this Spring and posted several times....first time on track with an automatic transmission but it worked well, had enough power but could use better brake pads....

Do you have the track package with the bigger brakes or the standard setup ?

I ran Porterfield R4-S and to my surprise it did the job very well for a street/track day pad.

[jlapicki]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Do you have the track package with the bigger brakes or the standard setup ?

I ran Porterfield R4-S and to my surprise it did the job very well for a street/track day pad.

I did have the track package but ran with stock pads as I couldn't find any track pads....they worked okay, no fading but I am used to driving with track pads and very late braking...did have stainless brake lines and ATE fluid which helped a lot..

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by jlapicki

I did have the track package but ran with stock pads as I couldn't find any track pads....they worked okay, no fading but I am used to driving with track pads and very late braking...did have stainless brake lines and ATE fluid which helped a lot..

I can totally relate, I had AP Big brake kit on my M2 and I was a bit extreme in my driving because of this. The Track Pack brake kit wich is basically 7 series brakes is pretty impressive but your right about pads, the most agressive pads made are EBC Blue NDX and I have been waiting for them for 3 months, they are still B-O.

Its frustrating since proper pads and camber plates are probably the only things holding me from being neck to neck with M2's and maybe even besting my personnal times. This new chassis is just that good !

[PLF69]

I guess no moderator seen this thread or have an interest on having another section ?

The F series section seems pretty active so I don't see why this would not apply to G series.

How can we get this moving ?

[helmet91]

I did a few laps at the Nürburgring last weekend in my 330i…. It did quite well, although I can't wait to get rid of the stock Bridgestone RFT.

The M-Performance brakes would be great too. I didn't get a lot of fade or mushiness but something just seemed off late in the laps.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by helmet91

I did a few laps at the Nürburgring last weekend in my 330i…. It did quite well, although I can't wait to get rid of the stock Bridgestone RFT.

The M-Power brakes would be great too. I didn't get a lot of fade or mushiness but something just seemed off late in the laps.

[IMG]https://www.racetracker.de/piccontro...18502411f1ba21[/IMG]

Wow so cool to be able to drive there ! One day when I do a Porsche Euro-Dilevery I'll be there.

There is a world of difference between rft and good tires like ps4s !

Concerning brakes I am not surprised there seems to be a lot of open space and long straighta or benders to help cool everything. A good set of pads with a compound leaning towards track duty + good brake fluid can do wonders.

[helmet91]

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be a lot of brake pad options for the 330i with basic brakes. I don't see anything from Hawk and EBC only appears to have pads for the front (https://ebcbrakes.com/vehicle/BMW/3%20Series%20(G20)/)?

I've thought about grabbing a gently used set of M-Sport brakes.... but I'm not sure if they're worth the hassle. I might as well just go all out with the M-Performance.

I'll definitely be upgrading to the PS4S when the Turanzas are worn out.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by helmet91

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be a lot of brake pad options for the 330i with basic brakes. I don't see anything from Hawk and EBC only appears to have pads for the front (https://ebcbrakes.com/vehicle/BMW/3%20Series%20(G20)/)?

I've thought about grabbing a gently used set of M-Sport brakes.... but I'm not sure if they're worth the hassle. I might as well just go all out with the M-Performance.

I'll definitely be upgrading to the PS4S when the Turanzas are worn out.

I have the Track Package (M Performance) brakes on my M340i and although the performance as been impressive even with agressive street pads (Porterfield R4-S) there are few pad choices since these are basically 5,X5 or 7 series brakes. Only true track pad I found was EBC Blue NDX wich was Backordered until now and my track season is done until next spring. One more constraint of the M performance is you basically can't use rim smaller than 19inch.

If I recall correctly M Sport brakes use the same pads as the GR Supra and there are a ton of different pads available for these. Plus M Sport brakes should be pretty cheap from a wrecker or used since there are so many.

I did not see anyone retrofit M3 brakes yet but these would be the ultimate upgrade (you can use 18inch wheels) Only problem is M3/4 guys go trough rear pads like crazy fast, Wich may be cause by too much imbalance in caliper size.

[helmet91]

You bring up some good points…. Thanks.

[Top Gon]

What are you guys doing in terms of suspension?

I kind of don't wanna mess the stiffness since the car is still mostly my daily driver, but having a little more camber and less body roll would be nice. I also have the EDC which I don't want to delete

Some options I was thinking of are:
M3 control arms
Dinan springs
Dinan mono ball kit
Bilstein electronic coilovers
Stiffer sway bars (if that exists)

[NorCalAthlete]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

You know, I bought my M440 without any intention of ever tracking it, just sporty drives through the twisties, but...

...the more I drive it, the more it begs to be pushed, and the more the temptation grows in my mind to hit Laguna Seca for an open session.

Bought my first home. My realtor bought me a trackday at Sears Point...so I guess the M440 is getting a trackday sooner rather than later.

I'm gonna need some new tires...current ones are already at 8k miles.

[Top Gon]

Originally Posted by 4DrSpra

I also agree with this request.

I'll be tracking my m340 for the first time at Sonoma raceway next week.
Will report back on findings

Forgot to report on the track day here.

I went to Sonoma raceway. First time ever at this track and first time tracking this car.
The track was amazing. Took me a while to learn it and I still think there's quite a bit more room for improvement.

The car held up really well also. I managed a PB of 2:02. I think the car definitely has at least a 1:55 in it. Car is completely stock except for tires. I'm running 245/35/19 front and 265/35/19 falken rt660 in store k 792 wheels. Also had the car aligned when installing these tires at -1 degree front camber and -0.5 rear. Front toe at 0+0.1. Stock pads and fluid. I feel like this track isn't that demanding on the brakes so they held up ok. Stock power was more than adequate for this track. I was keeping up with a 992 gt3 on my last session.

Things to note/improve:
There's quite a bit of body roll, but it's not detrimental to performance.
The car ok these tires has a loooot of grip so much so that the seats don't hold me in and I'm having to keep myself from moving by hanging onto the steering wheel or brace myself on the door