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      10-14-2008, 12:07 PM   #1
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09 M3 6MTs now have lifetime tranny fluid too (1200 mile service)?

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I took my 2009 e92 in for 1200 mile service today. After getting the car back, I checked the invoice and I noticed that the transmission fluid was not changed (6MT). I talked to the tech, showed him the part number for the fluid, and told him that 2.1 liters need to be changed. He said that all 09 models (both 6MT and DKG) have lifetime tranny fluid now and do not get changed. He claims that this is because dealers were getting confused between 6MT and DKG and were changing DKG tranny oil (which we've heard plenty about), so BMW just found a mutual solution. Still, I am a bit wary of this. Any other 09 owners already taken theirs in for service? I had him scan my key and show me the prescribed services and nothing was listed for transmission oil, so maybe he is telling the truth...still, I've heard so many cases of poorly informed techs, so I want to be sure.

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Gents,

I took my 2009 e92 in for 1200 mile service today. After getting the car back, I checked the invoice and I noticed that the transmission fluid was not changed (6MT). I talked to the tech, showed him the part number for the fluid, and told him that 2.1 liters need to be changed. He said that all 09 models (both 6MT and DKG) have lifetime tranny fluid now and do not get changed. He claims that this is because dealers were getting confused between 6MT and DKG and were changing DKG tranny oil (which we've heard plenty about), so BMW just found a mutual solution. Still, I am a bit wary of this. Any other 09 owners already taken theirs in for service? I had him scan my key and show me the prescribed services and nothing was listed for transmission oil, so maybe he is telling the truth...still, I've heard so many cases of poorly informed techs, so I want to be sure.

Thanks!
Interesting...I'd just call another BMW dealership, and confirm with them.
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      10-14-2008, 07:03 PM   #3
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I'd be very surprised if BMW dropped that M exclusive service.

It would be a huge cost savings for BMWNA though!

FYI - When I took my '08 in for the 1200 mi service, I was expecting the cabin filter to be replaced per the maintenance manual. However, the dealer had an update from BMW that stated the cabin air filter is not to be replaced @ 1200 miles.
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      10-20-2008, 06:53 PM   #4
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I find this a little surprising. If that's the case, I'll probably pay to have the tranny fluid changed when I get the service done. I'd probably ask to see a printout of the BMW advisory on this.
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That conflicts with what the 09 service manual says...sounds suspicious.
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Might have to take this up with BMW NA and see what they have to say.

Changing the transmission fluid on a 6 speed manual is a lot cheaper though than doing it on the DCT transmission.
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Yeah, honestly it is a bit difficult to get a straight answer here in Germany. I am headed back to the States this week and am going to hit up crevier and irvine bmw's service techs for a more solid answer hopefully.
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Yeah, honestly it is a bit difficult to get a straight answer here in Germany. I am headed back to the States this week and am going to hit up crevier and irvine bmw's service techs for a more solid answer hopefully.
I would. I just double checked and it says Tranny and Diff fluid need to be changed except on DCT.
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I would. I just double checked and it says Tranny and Diff fluid need to be changed except on DCT.
what is "it?" Service manual? I might have a different version, because mine certainly doesn't mention it.
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Maybe it's related to Germany, B_W. They didn't change transmission fluid on my car either ('08). According to the service instructions (back then) it's not necessary here, only for European "cold climate countries."


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Maybe it's related to Germany, B_W. They didn't change transmission fluid on my car either ('08). According to the service instructions (back then) it's not necessary here, only for European "cold climate countries."


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Thanks South, that makes me feel a bit better. Kind of odd though because I think that US spec cars have it show up in the key data, and it wasn't in mine. Its not in the book, and the engine and diff oils were changed, so I'm not worrying about it. Maybe I'll have them change it at 10,000 or whatever.
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what is "it?" Service manual? I might have a different version, because mine certainly doesn't mention it.
Yup - it's a service booklet that is separate from the standard manual. It has spaces for the techs to check off what they did for each service and states what needs to be done at each service.
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