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I suspect it is to blame for 99% of the reasons why the G82 here looks rather ugly while I personally really like the look of the G22. Until we get a picture with correct proportions it’s impossible to judge which looks the best. What this great leak does give us is a lot of G8X unique design elements which is a lot but you can’t judge how attractive or not it is from this photo. The G82 is comparable to 17mm here and the G22 the 200mm. |
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Or better yet, until we see it in person, as to eliminate any sort of lens distortion. |
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Yea people in the other thread were comparing this potato-cam wide angle lens leak of the G82 to the press release photos of the F82.
I get if the large grills aren't aesthetically for you but you can't compare trash pics to perfectly edited press pics.
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Recall the horrible reactions to this car: https://www.7post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074249
Now I think the car is pretty well respected/liked, no? I think we're seeing a similar thing play out
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I've looked at this everyday to see if my opinion would change. I still do not love it, and can not justify spending $80K+ on something I do not love, but I really think the rest of the car is great (aside from the steering wheel being a bit large), this just seems easily correctable.
I can not imagine everyone at BMW was on board with this design, and I feel like there has to be some sort of contingency plan in place if it is not received well. An LCI with alternative front bumper, or a way to add something to make this look a lot better. I just can't see this go a full production run without a major change to the front end. |
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At least the one thing the M model has going for it is that the grill comes all the way down to the lip and eliminates that goofy smiley face look that the regular 4 series has going on. That alone makes it look 100x better and more aggressive, even if you don't like the big grilles. |
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This is complete speculation, but I am wondering if BMW designed two different bumpers that can fit this car. If the risky design was not well received then, they could maybe start with the secondary bumper at some point. They make so many cars and so many parts, if a small aftermarket company can come up with something, I feel like BMW could plan for something ahead of time. They have to have known this was a big risk, and you usually hedge a big bet. Unfortunately since SUVs sales are more important, maybe that is their hedge. It has been a couple of days and they have not removed any of the negative posts on instagram, even the ones dropping f bombs, this is a first. |
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Just a side note, corporate finance and management boards typically do not approve/disapprove one part being changed on one of a couple dozen models. They usually approve overall budgets by department/business unit and company(an FP&A group would likely generate budgets by vehicle and roll it up for board approval). They could care less about a bumper, as long as you stay within your overall budget from an expense standpoint and are able to meet or exceed sales expectations. Even when looking at in on a model by model basis(each model having its own P&L), you would just budget for the LCI over the life of the vehicle (say 5 years, and beginning in year 3). You absolutely can get this approved even if there is some additional cost, because you recognize the necessity to keep revenue and sales momentum in the middle of the cycle, without it I dont know how you project steady sales beginning in year 3. One way you can get an expense approved is by showing corresponding revenue increases. The ONLY thing that I am suggesting that is done differently here from the past is that the LCI grill be changed, while in the past it has just been lights and other similar smaller changes. As long as the parts that bolt onto the vehicle are the same dimensions, I don't think it is that much of a reach. Last edited by CityLife; 06-16-2020 at 10:20 PM.. |
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Agree that if revenue takes a hit, an emergency injection of capital to fix the issue would 100% get approved. Re parts that bolt on, while I generally agree with what you are saying, changing the overall bumper design and developing new kidney grills means that there would be additional costs to design, test, and source those components. It's an added cost beyond just modifying the bumper molds and the lights like you noted is usually what's done with LCIs. I appreciate the response, and I am sure we can go on and on about this process offline if you'd like (I too work in the HW/Component/Auto supply chain side, though as an attorney, so am decently versed in this as well), just didn't have time to write a dissertation on why I thought what you were saying was, while hopeful, likely unrealistic while I was on my way to the bathroom. Will try to be more detailed in the future.
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