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      02-23-2020, 07:28 AM   #1
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Drivetribe Review: Is the M235i Gran Coupe better than a Golf R

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Absolutely nails the commentary on looks in my mind.

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      02-23-2020, 10:15 AM   #2
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If I had to buy a new car tomorrow I would seriously consider a 228 GC

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-re...es-gran-coupe/
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      02-24-2020, 06:46 PM   #3
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The grilles get a lot of negative attention (and they should), but does anyone else wonder, like me: Why is the trunk so TALL?!? It makes the car look even narrower and less sporty. It almost looks like a crossover from some angles. I dislike the rear end almost as much as the front (and the side profile). Man this car is ugly.
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Literally any 4cyl turbo hatch/sedan except this example..
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This may or may not be better than a golf r...but who cares...look at it?! To date one of BMW's worst designs.
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      03-11-2020, 11:11 AM   #6
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Nailed the look for maybe 10% other 90% think looks ugly
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      03-11-2020, 11:16 AM   #7
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No thanks, I'll take a Golf R please (#SaveTheManuals!)
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      03-11-2020, 11:23 AM   #8
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I just can't with this car. What could have been...

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      03-11-2020, 11:26 AM   #9
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At least the golf is expected to have this drivetrain and characteristics. The golfs always been an affordable (and very good) hot hatch. This is just bmw cheaping out and claiming to enter into a segment that has demand. Flat out ugly and it doesn't even belong here. If they want to charge as much as they are for it it should be RWD at LEAST.
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      03-11-2020, 11:30 AM   #10
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To me, it resembles a Ford Focus.
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Carenthusiast.com took no prisoners in their scathing review of this car's design. I agree with them. A truly awful looking car.

"Looks, in any aspect of life, are subjective. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison; to each their own; there's no accounting for taste; and so on. The appearance of this new BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe, therefore, is no exception to the vagaries of humankind and their qualities of aesthetic appreciation, and so we are well aware there will be plenty of people in the world looking at this car and thoroughly appreciating its distinctive lines. And good on them, too.

Not us, though. Dear lord, not us. In fact, we think this is the ugliest car BMW has ever put on sale. We have now spent a long time walking around the 2 Series Gran Coupe, standing up, crouching down, viewing it from dead-on front, appraising it from the rear three-quarters, loitering at the side of it, squinting at it, sucking air over our teeth, shaking our head forlornly... and it doesn't matter what we do nor where we stand, it's just dire in every aspect.

Particular bugbears of this dreadful design are: way too much metal above the wheel arches, which is especially noticeable at the front of the car when viewed in profile; front-end details which are oversized and outlandish compared to the wings sitting behind and to either side of them; the back of the Gran Coupe, which is busy beyond belief with so many contrasting details, none of which seem happy to co-exist with each other; the strangely stunted and high look of the roof, as the designers tried (in vain) to cram a swooping GC lid onto a car that's only 4.5 metres long and with a wheelbase of less than 2.7 metres; and then the misshapen, sheer chunkiness of it all. This is never better in evidence than when you realise that this flagship M235i xDrive model rolls on at least 18-inch alloys, which look like castors in those rear arches, such is the vast expanse of metal in that gargantuan rear flank. BMW's product line-up is hardly the prettiest portfolio on sale today, but to try and fathom how this car is related in any way, shape or form to the current 8 Series makes your head spin in sickening confusion. About the most savage indictment we can fling the way of the 2 GC is that it somehow, incomprehensibly, manages to make the X6 Mk3 look almost well-judged and proportional. Astonishing....."
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I just feel like it's such a stupid car to make, why would we have a 4 door 2 series?
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^ I'd take one if it looked better, B58, RWD and 6MT...

Smaller sedan is desirable to some people. Main thing that stops me from getting an RS3 is the trans.

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I continue to like it. BMW finally entered 21st Century.
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I continue to like it. BMW finally entered 21st Century.
Huh? This car isn't revolutionary in any way. :
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^ I'd take one if it looked better, B58, RWD and 6MT...

Smaller sedan is desirable to some people. Main thing that stops me from getting an RS3 is the trans.
An RS3 with a 6 speed would be... just perfect
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This is awesome, thank you for sharing!
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^ I'd take one if it looked better, B58, RWD and 6MT...

Smaller sedan is desirable to some people. Main thing that stops me from getting an RS3 is the trans.
An RS3 with a 6 speed would be... just perfect
Well, it would still be 90% fwd. I'd love it if it had a longitudinal motor and the sport rear differential
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Looks like a Ford Focus
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I continue to like it. BMW finally entered 21st Century.
Huh? This car isn't revolutionary in any way. :
No, it is not. But is up to date. This alone is revolutionary for BMW, who were stuck in the 90s for nearly 20 years.
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Saw one in the metal today. Good from some angles. A bit awkward from others. Really colour sensitive body shape, does not suit Alpine White IMHO.
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Looks like a Ford Focus
A Ford Focus looks better than this, believe me, a more cohesive and better proportioned design, albeit a bit generic.
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