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      07-18-2019, 04:20 PM   #1
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Having a bit of a crisis — could use some advice

So I was planning on going fbo this summer because my factory warranty just went out until I took my car in for service and they said that I had extended warranty until May.

My options are: I can either forget they told me that and go full send anyway or I could wait until my extended warranty goes out for peace-of-mind's sake

Does anyone have experience with being modded with a warranty? How does it work if I want something covered even if I have aftermarket parts?
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So I was planning on going fbo this summer because my factory warranty just went out until I took my car in for service and they said that I had extended warranty until May.

My options are: I can either forget they told me that and go full send anyway or I could wait until my extended warranty goes out for peace-of-mind's sake

Does anyone have experience with being modded with a warranty? How does it work if I want something covered even if I have aftermarket parts?

Welllllllll.....being its mid July, I'd say fire away

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I never understood the idea of modding AFTER your warranty expires. The likeliness of something going wrong with the stock car is small and if something should go wrong after you have modded it you might get away using the warranty
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Welllllllll.....being its mid July, I'd say fire away

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I've been FBO + bm3 stage 2 tune for almost two years. My extended warranty as well as BMW Ultimate Care maintenance package doesn't end until this September. I've had all my routine maintenance done at the dealership, other than an additional oil change between dealership oil change intervals and more frequent spark plug changes. I've also had the oil filter housing gasket and oil pan gasket replaced under warranty. I'm cool with the SA so all has been good so far.
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I never understood the idea of modding AFTER your warranty expires. The likeliness of something going wrong with the stock car is small and if something should go wrong after you have modded it you might get away using the warranty
Ditto!!!

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I've been FBO + bm3 stage 2 tune for almost two years. My extended warranty as well as BMW Ultimate Care maintenance package doesn't end until this September. I've had all my routine maintenance done at the dealership, other than an additional oil change between dealership oil change intervals and more frequent spark plug changes. I've also had the oil filter housing gasket and oil pan gasket replaced under warranty. I'm cool with the SA so all has been good so far.
After thinking on your response for a couple days I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on it. I really appreciate the insight. By the way, are you SPI films on YouTube? I've watched a few of your videos and your car sounds great! If you are, have you had any issues with your clutch/trans with bm3 stage 2? And how many miles do you have on the car?
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You should do it man, first thing start with the charge pipe.

If you have over 50k miles on the engine, I will also look at OFHG, VCG, and intake valves. You want to make sure the engine is fundamentally healthy before modding; once you treat it good, it will return the favor when you mod.
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You should do it man, first thing start with the charge pipe.

If you have over 50k miles on the engine, I will also look at OFHG, VCG, and intake valves. You want to make sure the engine is fundamentally healthy before modding; once you treat it good, it will return the favor when you mod.
I put my vrsf charge pipe on a couple weeks ago so I guess I'm on the right track. I'll probably order a catless dp in the next few days.

Even though I've had the car for a year, I'm still pretty new to the world of modifying and dyi maintenance for bmws. I recently got an oil leak fixed at the dealer (turned out to be VCG) but I'm not sure if they checked any other gaskets while they were at it. Where can I find guides to check on all that you stated and fix them if necessary?
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      07-24-2019, 01:38 PM   #12
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I put my vrsf charge pipe on a couple weeks ago so I guess I'm on the right track. I'll probably order a catless dp in the next few days.

Even though I've had the car for a year, I'm still pretty new to the world of modifying and dyi maintenance for bmws. I recently got an oil leak fixed at the dealer (turned out to be VCG) but I'm not sure if they checked any other gaskets while they were at it. Where can I find guides to check on all that you stated and fix them if necessary?
I also have a VRSF CP and it gives me a peace of mind to run Stage 2 Dinan.

As far as oil filter housing gasket, I think we can see it around the oil filter? I haven't experienced it myself but I am sure there are plenty of picture on Google since it is so common. For intake valves you will have to remove the intake manifold. You can get a general idea by looking up walnut blasting. One way to prevent/significantly reduce carbon build-up is oil catch can. You probably noticed some oil in the CP when you replaced it, those oil are basically where the build-up comes from.

What is the emission rule like in Dallas? The reason why I ask is that my team is in Dallas and I will most likely have to move there when I finish grad school next year
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What is the emission rule like in Dallas? The reason why I ask is that my team is in Dallas and I will most likely have to move there when I finish grad school next year
I actually blew my charge pipe with a dinan sport tuner and had it replaced under warranty so I never got to see what 45k miles of oil buildup on the stock cp looked like. I put a couple thousand miles on the oem replacement and I could still see some buildup so a catch can is high on my priority list.

As for emissions in dallas, It's not as lax as Florida but definitely not as strict as California. A lot of my friends have catless cars and you can easily pass emissions with a o2 spacer or if you just go to the right shop
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I actually blew my charge pipe with a dinan sport tuner and had it replaced under warranty so I never got to see what 45k miles of oil buildup on the stock cp looked like. I put a couple thousand miles on the oem replacement and I could still see some buildup so a catch can is high on my priority list.

As for emissions in dallas, It's not as lax as Florida but definitely not as strict as California. A lot of my friends have catless cars and you can easily pass emissions with a o2 spacer or if you just go to the right shop
Sounds like you are on the right track on modding

Thank you for the input on the local emission, I will most likely take advantage of that on top of the cheaper gas price
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Just do a JB4 for now and enjoy. After the warranty period add in a back end flash for the best of both worlds!
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Just do a JB4 for now and enjoy. After the warranty period add in a back end flash for the best of both worlds!
Can you not relock the dme with bm3 whenever you need to bring it into the dealership?
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Can you not relock the dme with bm3 whenever you need to bring it into the dealership?
You can but if your engine blows up it doesnt matter, they will find it. Tip and be nice to your SA, they will most likely pretend they dont see your mods for basic warranty repairs such as OFHG and VCG which are the only 2 things id be worried about on the 335i. If your turbo or rods fail then it will most likely be on you. Turbo will cost around 4-5k with the labor. Engine 8-12k with labor.
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Can you not relock the dme with bm3 whenever you need to bring it into the dealership?
You can flash back to stock but the problem is the dealerships know how to catch you now. When you run a flash map there are modules out there other than the ECU that store the true torque and load values, like the trans computer, ABS computer, and others. So even if you replaced the ECU all together they'd still be able to easily tell with a scan.

You can do a lot of stuff flashing but you just have to understand that once flashed there is really no going back from a detection perspective.
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You can flash back to stock but the problem is the dealerships know how to catch you now. When you run a flash map there are modules out there other than the ECU that store the true torque and load values, like the trans computer, ABS computer, and others. So even if you replaced the ECU all together they'd still be able to easily tell with a scan.

You can do a lot of stuff flashing but you just have to understand that once flashed there is really no going back from a detection perspective.
Would a dealership not be able to see this same info with a JB4 being used? The ECU would still show the boost levels and performance of the engine at the time of a failure.
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My thinking on that subject is to flash back to stock for routine service visits. Assuming nothing seriously wrong, more in depth scans will not likely happen. That way you're not getting your car flagged as tuned and possibly having small unrelated things denied.

Of course, should something major go wrong, own up to the tune. They're going to find it anyway and no reason to damage your relationship with your SA and dealership by lying about the tune.

Just my opinion, I certainly could be wrong.
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Yes I'm SPI Films on Youtube. Thanks, I love the way the car sounds. I now have my burble setting perfected. I'm not a fan of the loud gunshot or even the pops so I have it set to give a nice grumble on decel. I've had no issues with the clutch/tranny and have almost 73,000 miles on the car.

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After thinking on your response for a couple days I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on it. I really appreciate the insight. By the way, are you SPI films on YouTube? I've watched a few of your videos and your car sounds great! If you are, have you had any issues with your clutch/trans with bm3 stage 2? And how many miles do you have on the car?
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Yes I'm SPI Films on Youtube. Thanks, I love the way the car sounds. I now have my burble setting perfected. I'm not a fan of the loud gunshot or even the pops so I have it set to give a nice grumble on decel. I've had no issues with the clutch/tranny and have almost 73,000 miles on the car.
Would you mind sending me those burble settings? My friend has max aggression for his 435i and it sounds super obnoxious and kind of artificial. I prefer the low grumble like you were saying with maybe a little pop or two sprinkled in there.
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