[upsidedownfunnel]

AR Design makes some good stuff and I noticed this seemed to be a pretty good deal. Does anyone have any experience with catted downpipes from AR design? I can't seem to find many reviews on them.

[BigJack75]

Where is this deal and how much? What platform is it for?

Just did a google search and found it for $679. Too much for me.

[upsidedownfunnel]

x-ph has it for $650 and you can get a 5% coupon available online which makes it $620 shipped. Compared to other downpipes (that aren't VRSF), that's a pretty good deal. AR Design is made in America and is supposedly made very well.

I guess, I'll find out how they are.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Its one of the more popular downpipe that we offer, built in the US. AR Design quality is second to none

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Its one of the more popular downpipe that we offer, built in the US. AR Design quality is second to none

Well, I ordered it. Question, is the stock picture most vendors (including you) have up the correct one? The picture has a flex pipe and is fairly narrow. I'm assuming the catted one is a bit thicker.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel

Well, I ordered it. Question, is the stock picture most vendors (including you) have up the correct one? The picture has a flex pipe and is fairly narrow. I'm assuming the catted one is a bit thicker.

Correct, the catted one looks different

[SilkySmoooth]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Correct, the catted one looks different

Mike, could you please PM me a picture of what the AR Catted downpipe for the 2013 N55 PWG looks like exactly? Highly considering purchasing one.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by SilkySmoooth

Mike, could you please PM me a picture of what the AR Catted downpipe for the 2013 N55 PWG looks like exactly? Highly considering purchasing one.

I dont have a picture, it will look just like the catless with a cat in the center

[goodguyf335]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I dont have a picture, it will look just like the catless with a cat in the center

Xph could you please tell me if this catted downpipe is still worth looking at in the n55 f30? can you recommend something else that provides the deepest sound, many thanks in advance for any info.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by goodguyf335

Xph could you please tell me if this catted downpipe is still worth looking at in the n55 f30? can you recommend something else that provides the deepest sound, many thanks in advance for any info.

to be honest there are better options on the market now.

If you are looking for a downpipe that does not trigger the check engine light, check out the active autowerke

if that's not a concern, check out MAD

[goodguyf335]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

to be honest there are better options on the market now.

If you are looking for a downpipe that does not trigger the check engine light, check out the active autowerke

if that's not a concern, check out MAD

Thanks i decided mad, would you recommend some chargepipe for this and ic i was thinking of er cp, vrsf hd ic but judging by the new options... i know you definitely have something good hahahh and do you know if mhd stage 2+ and xhp stage 3 will work together? thanks a lot for your help!

[goodguyf335]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

to be honest there are better options on the market now.

If you are looking for a downpipe that does not trigger the check engine light, check out the active autowerke

if that's not a concern, check out MAD

I'm just wondering how ar provides 35-40 km without tuning when mad provides 30 on the map, but I think I'll go mad anyway because it's cheaper, I forgot to ask if it really sounds deep

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by goodguyf335

I'm just wondering how ar provides 35-40 km without tuning when mad provides 30 on the map

I don't understand the question

Originally Posted by goodguyf335

but I think I'll go mad anyway because it's cheaper, I forgot to ask if it really sounds deep

Yes either option will provide a deeper and more aggressive sound than stock

[goodguyf335]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I don't understand the question



Yes either option will provide a deeper and more aggressive sound than stock

sory i spelled it wrong,ar design manufacturer provides 30-35whp without tuning when the manufacturer of what you recommend provides an increase of up to 30hp after the map,
I wonder about this difference, however, due to the price, I will probably decide on the one from mad.
let me know what you think and thanks a lot!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by goodguyf335

sory i spelled it wrong,ar design manufacturer provides 30-35whp without tuning when the manufacturer of what you recommend provides an increase of up to 30hp after the map,
I wonder about this difference, however, due to the price, I will probably decide on the one from mad.
let me know what you think and thanks a lot!

I would recommend not placing significant emphasis on the manufacturers' estimated numbers. Whether it's 30 or 35, can vary based on the specific dyno used, tuning of the car, and other factors.

Given that both downpipes utilize high-flow cats and considering all the information available for both items, it's unlikely that one significantly outperforms the other regarding flow capacity.

[Info@mad-us.com]

Originally Posted by goodguyf335

I'm just wondering how ar provides 35-40 km without tuning when mad provides 30 on the map, but I think I'll go mad anyway because it's cheaper, I forgot to ask if it really sounds deep

The horsepower added is really going to depend on the tuning. Our numbers are using stage 2+ tuning. The more boost you push the more restrictive the oem cat becomes and the more gains our downpipe will make in comparison.

On a factory tuned car you can expect around 15whp.

As far as a charge pipe and intercooler we have some great options to choose from as well.

Charge pipe
https://mad-us.com/mad-n55-charge-pi...-435-rwd-only/

All of our Intercoolers are now High density which means you get more fins Per square inch = better cooling capabilities.




Sport Intercooler - https://mad-us.com/mad-bmw-5-stepped...55-1-2-3-4-m2/


Race Intercooler - https://mad-us.com/mad-bmw-7-stepped...55-1-2-3-4-m2/

[SJLenz1340]

I recently installed AA catted down pipe with ER charge pipe and race intercooler. The Down pipe fit quite nicely, my car is X drive so the turbo connection was made through the passenger side wheel well. Kind of a PITA but doable.
Sounds slightly more aggressive than stock, quite nice actually, and I have not done a tune yet. No CEL!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by SJLenz1340

I recently installed AA catted down pipe with ER charge pipe and race intercooler. The Down pipe fit quite nicely, my car is X drive so the turbo connection was made through the passenger side wheel well. Kind of a PITA but doable.
Sounds slightly more aggressive than stock, quite nice actually, and I have not done a tune yet. No CEL!