2017 Camero ZL1 vs 08 BMW 335i

Mata1015 · 03-02-2019, 10:31 AM

Me and a friend are going to take our vehicles to a drag strip to race. What would the BMW need to beat the camero or would it not stand a chance with mods

gurusan · 03-02-2019, 10:49 AM

probably would be very difficult on stock turbos

Rsoxs19 · 03-02-2019, 03:33 PM

Looks like the zl1 runs the quarter mile in 11.5 at 125 according to motor trend. There's no way a stock turbo car could keep up with that. My best was a 11.8 at 127 with the mods in my signature

Mata1015 · 03-02-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gurusan

probably would be very difficult on stock turbos

Any mods of recommendation to use to beat it

Bimmer_Engineer · 03-02-2019, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mata1015

Any mods of recommendation to use to beat it

Apparently the mods in Rsoxs19’s signature plus upgraded turbos...

zomski101 · 03-02-2019, 05:20 PM

Upgraded turbos, FBO, e50 custom tune, stage 2 bucketless lpfp and drag radials. If auto than xhp stage 3. All that to beat a stock zl1.

Twix · 03-02-2019, 05:33 PM

LS swap

TemjinX2 · 03-04-2019, 10:39 AM

single turbo conversion...you have a better chance if you take it something with curves.

nsjames · 03-04-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mata1015

Any mods of recommendation to use to beat it

about ten thousand dollars. That's your needed mod.

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Originally Posted by TemjinX2

single turbo conversion...you have a better chance if you take it something with curves.

not these days. They road course the new camaros and corvettes. a camaro team won the IMSA continental cup like 3-4 years back.

this isn't the 90's.

rick100 · 03-04-2019, 11:05 AM

funny people still think cars like the camaro and mustang are slow on the track LOL

9krpmrx8 · 03-04-2019, 11:10 AM

11.8 with those upgraded turbos and mods is pretty slow. A stock turbo EWG N55 just ran a 11.6.

A stock turbo N54 on nitrous just broke into 10's a couple of weeks ago.

That said, it's not uncommon to see newer Vettes and such run 13's at the track, there are a lot of variables. But with the right setup you could surely handle a stock ZL1.

320IN54 · 03-04-2019, 11:12 AM

The ZL1 can be comparable to hellcats even though the hellcat has 60 more hp as the hellcat also weights 600lbs more. Theres no way a stock turbo 335i can beat it and even some upgraded turbo setups will barely keep. That being said 5.0s and 392s are ez for us.

9krpmrx8 · 03-04-2019, 11:15 AM

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The ZL1 can be comparable to hellcats even though the hellcat has 60 more hp as the hellcat also weights 600lbs more. Theres no way a stock turbo 335i can beat it and even some upgraded turbo setups will barely keep. That being said 5.0s and 392s are ez for us.

There is a way, it's called shitty tires and/or a noob driver.

gurusan · 03-04-2019, 11:20 AM

OP, buy a ZL1. I surely would rather have a ZL1 over my 335is, at least a 2016+ model. As silly as it sounds, I just can't stand the gauges in the 2015 and earlier Camaros.

9krpmrx8 · 03-04-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gurusan

OP, buy a ZL1. I surely would rather have a ZL1 over my 335is, at least a 2016+ model. As silly as it sounds, I just can't stand the gauges in the 2015 and earlier Camaros.

I am with you on that, the interiors have always been the biggest turn off.

9krpmrx8 · 03-04-2019, 11:50 AM

Oh and here is a ZL1 running a 13.6.

JDang · 03-04-2019, 12:09 PM

These new ZL1's are much faster than the previous generation (580 vs 650HP). There's no way a 2017 ZLI will run a 13.6 lol.

Unless you have an upgraded setup pushing 500+WHP, you're going to get COOKED.

9krpmrx8 · 03-04-2019, 01:03 PM

No way unless they suck at driving.

Antetokounmpo · 03-04-2019, 01:20 PM

11.5 is what motortrend got, that means there is no possible way a human would get those numbers without hundreds of tries. Listen to Farah's podcast with Camisa, he basically says magazine numbers are unrealistic for a regular driver to get, especially if it's manual. I'd bet a 6 speed ZL1 would be struggling to run under 12s unless the driver really knew how to drive. 10-speed would probably be high 11s pretty consistently.

Unknown_Car · 03-04-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gurusan

probably would be very difficult on stock turbos

For a drag race would be drivers race, obviosly depends on the 335 mods. On the street the n54 would win. Map 6 custom 26 psi with e60 mix I know a guy who did take the hellcat. Also he's best time was 11.7 126 mph I believe.

Unknown_Car · 03-04-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8

11.8 with those upgraded turbos and mods is pretty slow. A stock turbo EWG N55 just ran a 11.6.

A stock turbo N54 on nitrous just broke into 10's a couple of weeks ago.

That said, it's not uncommon to see newer Vettes and such run 13's at the track, there are a lot of variables. But with the right setup you could surely handle a stock ZL1.

My friend on stock turbos n54 ran 3 years ago 11.7.

9krpmrx8 · 03-04-2019, 01:53 PM

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My friend on stock turbos n54 ran 3 years ago 11.7.

Yeah a healthy N54 with healthy turbos and a proper tune and bolt ons should hang with a stock ZL1 if the drivers are solid.

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9krpmrx8 Clean is the new cool, keep it that way. 808 Rep 1,685 Posts Drives: 11' Alpine White 335i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	11.8 with those upgraded turbos and mods is pretty slow. A stock turbo EWG N55 just ran a 11.6. A stock turbo N54 on nitrous just broke into 10's a couple of weeks ago. That said, it's not uncommon to see newer Vettes and such run 13's at the track, there are a lot of variables. But with the right setup you could surely handle a stock ZL1. __________________ 2011 335i, FBO, N55+ Turbo, full E85, S55 intercooler, etc. 2015 X5 35i Xdrive
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