Is this oil LL 01 approved?

Xfloridiankicks · 01-09-2019, 01:09 PM

Doing some research [yea I've been using search for my info] and just came across this oil and wanted to know if it's LL 01 approved since that's the basic thing everybody talks about when coming to oil

HawkeyeGeoff · 01-09-2019, 01:13 PM

It does not say that it is LL01 approved. This is not to say that it ISN'T within spec for the LL01, but it has not be certified for LL01 so there's really no way to tell. That's the bottom line, sorry.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-09-2019, 01:29 PM

No, you need the Castrol A3/B4 Euro formula.

Like this https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-03101.../dp/B00JGQLZSU

Xfloridiankicks · 01-09-2019, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

No, you need the Castrol A3/B4 Euro formula.

Like this https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-03101.../dp/B00JGQLZSU

0W-40 works fine? I called bmw they told me to use 5W-30

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-09-2019, 01:38 PM

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0W-40 works fine? I called bmw they told me to use 5W-30

0w-30, 0w-40, 5w-30 and 5w-40 are all listed approved grades in the owners manual, at least for my Canadian car.

My dealer also told me what they tell people for 2007+ turbo cars non M to use 0w-30. But manual does list all 4 so I rather get 0w-40 it may be better but won't really give any noticeable difference.

I think the only negative is that your gas milleage will be a bit worse. That's what the dealer guy told me as to why they recommend 30. Prioritize gas milleage voer longevetiyY. But really in the end 30 vs 40 for longevetiy won't really be noticeable IMO.

Anyways, Canadian tire here only has 0w-40 LL01 approved oil so.

OTO335i · 01-09-2019, 02:38 PM

That's the oil I've been putting in my car for the last year and a half with zero issues. Our cars recommend Castrol and this one is synthetic so it's good enough for me. I'm also still on stock turbo's and recently reached 180,000 Km's on them.

Xfloridiankicks · 01-09-2019, 02:40 PM

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That's the oil I've been putting in my car for the last year and a half with zero issues. Our cars recommend Castrol and this one is synthetic so it's good enough for me. I'm also still on stock turbo's and recently reached 180,000 Km's on them.

Been reading a lot of posts and everyone says it must be "LL-01" approved!

OTO335i · 01-09-2019, 02:42 PM

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Be read a lot of posts and everyone says it must be "LL-01" approved!

It's up to you man. I've personally never had an issue and I'm never going to change what I put in as long as I own the car. I also do my oil changes every 5,000km's and I burn roughly less than 1/4 of a quart in between oil changes

bbnks2 · 01-09-2019, 03:09 PM

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0W-40 works fine? I called bmw they told me to use 5W-30

0-40 EU is LL-01 and one of th best oils on the shelf. It's a lightweight 40wt oil.

Advanced Auto usually always has the EU formula on sale (they claim to be the go to euro part store)... If not, Walmart has it for $26.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-09-2019, 03:34 PM

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Been reading a lot of posts and everyone says it must be "LL-01" approved!

Yeah some people refuse to use LL-01 only oils and I guess it's doable.

But my question is why not. It's literally the same price as the other oil.

Why not get for your car what the manual recommends. It's not like you're paying a BMW tax here.

OTO335i · 01-09-2019, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Xfloridiankicks

Been reading a lot of posts and everyone says it must be "LL-01" approved!

Yeah some people refuse to use LL-01 only oils and I guess it's doable.

But my question is why not. It's literally the same price as the other oil.

Why not get for your car what the manual recommends. It's not like you're paying a BMW tax here.

Yes its doable, ive been doing it since I own the car lol so you're saying that a 5 litre jug of approved castrol LL-01 goes on sale for $26 at Canadian Tire? The stuff i use now says it's formulated for GDI turbo'd cars...

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-09-2019, 03:48 PM

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Yes its doable, ive been doing it since I own the car lol so you're saying that a 5 litre jug of approved castrol LL-01 goes on sale for $26 at Canadian Tire? The stuff i use now says it's formulated for GDI turbo'd cars...

Yeah the LL01 0w-40 does go on sale but I think it's ~ 30$. Must have been with tax. I had bought it once for my E46 a few years back.

I've added it to my sale alert now. I had bought the oil I used now at Walmart USA when I picked up my parts there and it was on sale like the other oil.

It should go on sale when the Castrol stuff goes on sale.

OTO335i · 01-09-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OTO335i

Yes its doable, ive been doing it since I own the car lol so you're saying that a 5 litre jug of approved castrol LL-01 goes on sale for $26 at Canadian Tire? The stuff i use now says it's formulated for GDI turbo'd cars...

Yeah the LL01 0w-40 does go on sale but I think it's ~ 30$. Must have been with tax. I had bought it once for my E46 a few years back.

I've added it to my sale alert now. I had bought the oil I used now at Walmart USA when I picked up my parts there and it was on sale like the other oil.

It should go on sale when the Castrol stuff goes on sale.

I'll probably just end up sticking with what I've been using since day one.

bbnks2 · 01-10-2019, 07:27 AM

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I'll probably just end up sticking with what I've been using since day one.

The Eu formula is not just an "ll-01" badge it's literally a better oil. There is 0 reason to buy the regular castrol edge when the EU bottle should be sitting right next to it for the exact same price. The sales and prices are always the same here in the states. can't speak for Canada as oil is different in different markets.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-10-2019, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bbnks2

The Eu formula is not just an "ll-01" badge it's literally a better oil. There is 0 reason to buy the regular castrol edge when the EU bottle should be sitting right next to it for the exact same price. The sales and prices are always the same here in the states. can't speak for Canada as oil is different in different markets.

I can confirm the oil is the same here to. It's the A3/B4 formula aswell.

You just reminded me this fact to and I agree. It seems to be overall better oil, as I made a post on the "Bob is the oil guy" forums if I should switch from my Castrol A3/B4 0W-40 to a Motul or Liquiy moly 5W-40 and everyone was saying to stick with the Castrol that it was a pretty good oil because of that formula you're talking about.

Unknown_Car · 01-10-2019, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

0w-30, 0w-40, 5w-30 and 5w-40 are all listed approved grades in the owners manual, at least for my Canadian car.

My dealer also told me what they tell people for 2007+ turbo cars non M to use 0w-30. But manual does list all 4 so I rather get 0w-40 it may be better but won't really give any noticeable difference.

I think the only negative is that your gas milleage will be a bit worse. That's what the dealer guy told me as to why they recommend 30. Prioritize gas milleage voer longevetiyY. But really in the end 30 vs 40 for longevetiy won't really be noticeable IMO.

Anyways, Canadian tire here only has 0w-40 LL01 approved oil so.

I only use 0w40 my self.

OTO335i · 01-10-2019, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bbnks2

The Eu formula is not just an "ll-01" badge it's literally a better oil. There is 0 reason to buy the regular castrol edge when the EU bottle should be sitting right next to it for the exact same price. The sales and prices are always the same here in the states. can't speak for Canada as oil is different in different markets.

I'll check next time I hit the store but I don't believe it's as easily accessible at the stores I go to compared to the regular stuff. I feel like our choices up here are different then what you guys have access to. Can you explain what makes the Eu formula that much better than the regular full synthetic that's made for GDI turbo engines?

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-10-2019, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OTO335i

I'll check next time I hit the store but I don't believe it's as easily accessible at the stores I go to compared to the regular stuff. I feel like our choices up here are different then what you guys have access to. Can you explain what makes the Eu formula that much better than the regular full synthetic that's made for GDI turbo engines?

I re read the thread quickly and I'm not sure anymore. But I couldn't understand half the terms they were throwing around, but in the end the answer was that Castrol 0w-40 ll01 is the best bang for buck as well as pretty good quality to get that is the same price as the other. Originally thread was to compare 0w30 to 0w40 and turned into that haha.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...pics/4935569/5

bbnks2 · 01-10-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OTO335i

I'll check next time I hit the store but I don't believe it's as easily accessible at the stores I go to compared to the regular stuff. I feel like our choices up here are different then what you guys have access to. Can you explain what makes the Eu formula that much better than the regular full synthetic that's made for GDI turbo engines?

I don't really know of the specifics other than it IS different oil. You'd have to pose that specific question to oil expert's. I know for a fact the Edge EU is group IV synthetic and it has a higher HTHS rating than the regular oil Edge.

OTO335i · 01-10-2019, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I re read the thread quickly and I'm not sure anymore. But I couldn't understand half the terms they were throwing around, but in the end the answer was that Castrol 0w-40 ll01 is the best bang for buck as well as pretty good quality to get that is the same price as the other. Originally thread was to compare 0w30 to 0w40 and turned into that haha.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...pics/4935569/5

Thanks man! Where do you pick up your oil? I'll see if I can find it next time I go out but I won't lie, I have trouble changing things when I'm not having issues with my current set up lol

TheMidnightNarwhal · 01-10-2019, 10:24 AM

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Thanks man! Where do you pick up your oil? I'll see if I can find it next time I go out but I won't lie, I have trouble changing things when I'm not having issues with my current set up lol

I had picked up enough for 2 oil changes when I went to the states as it was on sale there when I picked parts.

But for my E46 I used exact same oil and had gotten it from Canadian Tire when the Castrol stuff was on sale.

But I noticed it hasn't been for a while now... any of it even non LL01.

I made a post on Red Flag Deals to see if anyone know if it still goes on sale looks like it does, last time was black friday.

They also reminded me actually that Costco had the Castrol stuff 24/7 priced at the sale price of Canadian Tire but I don't they they have 0w-40 ll01.

And yeah I get what you feel, if it works for you I mean no reason to change, I just personally would prefer to follow owner manual guide for oil.

01-10-2019, 12:10 PM

At the end of the day, who cares?

An oil that lands on the "approval" list doesn't automatically make it any better than one that hasn't "earned" the seal.

If you want to know whether an oil is "good enough" to run in your setup, run it, dump it, have it tested at a lab.

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HawkeyeGeoff Captain 263 Rep 620 Posts Drives: E90 335XI MSport, S2000 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Waterford, MI iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i XDrive [0.00] 2001 Honda S2000 [0.00]	It does not say that it is LL01 approved. This is not to say that it ISN'T within spec for the LL01, but it has not be certified for LL01 so there's really no way to tell. That's the bottom line, sorry.
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TheMidnightNarwhal Major General 2663 Rep 6,296 Posts Drives: 11' 335is DCT Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Gatineau, Quebec iTrader: (0)	No, you need the Castrol A3/B4 Euro formula. Like this https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-03101.../dp/B00JGQLZSU
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OTO335i Lieutenant 145 Rep 506 Posts Drives: 2010 335I Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Ottawa, Ontario iTrader: (0)	That's the oil I've been putting in my car for the last year and a half with zero issues. Our cars recommend Castrol and this one is synthetic so it's good enough for me. I'm also still on stock turbo's and recently reached 180,000 Km's on them. __________________ 2010 335I Xdrive You're not really driving if you don't have 3 pedals.
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