[nomoracin]

So, I rode in DCT a few days ago and I'm not sure if it's just in my head, but it felt faster than my 6MT...I think it was louder too.

I'm not talking about flooring it (I know it's like .2 sec faster 0-60), but just some light pulls not exceeding 5k rpms.

I'm wondering if it feels faster/torqueier due to the gearing since it has more gears?

[heavyD^2]

If feels faster because it is faster. You can't change gears manually as fast as a DCT and it's simple to just floor it and go compared to making manual gear changes that require some precision & timing when you are trying to accelerate as fast as possible. With DCT you just floor it and the transmission performs perfect shifts every time. I quite like my 6MT but there are moments where I wish I got the DCT so I could lazily just blast out of intersections or gun it at a moments notice like my DSG Golf R which was a point and shoot car in city traffic. I also feel with my car that there's some strange loss of engine response immediately after shifting when accelerating hard. It's feels different than rev hang and it's not turbo lag.

[2MCoupesam]

Breaking news: sky is blue, DCT is quicker than MT, and grass is green.

Sam

[jdub486]

Was this at Potomac meetup last weekend? That was my hockenheim dct m2c. I remember you saying mine felt faster. I think the loudness in cabin is related to ASD as yours is disabled. The ASD adds a lot of artificial noise. Once mine is broken in we can drive them again. I think if you are going to disable ASD you need an exhaust and or downpipes to bring some sounds back.

[Ceramic Rabbit]

Originally Posted by jdub486

Was this at Potomac meetup last weekend? That was my hockenheim dct m2c. I remember you saying mine felt faster. I think the loudness in cabin is related to ASD as yours is disabled. The ASD adds a lot of artificial noise. Once mine is broken in we can drive them again. I think if you are going to disable ASD you need an exhaust and or downpipes to bring some sounds back.

Where is the Potomac meetup?

[cptobvious]

Originally Posted by 2MCoupesam

Breaking news: sky is blue, DCT is quicker than MT, and grass is green.

Sam

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[jdub486]

Potomac Village area. Smaller Cars and coffee type thing. My first time going I don’t know many of the details. We had three Porsche, three Nissan GT-R, a mclaren, one regular m2 and two m2c.

[MR RIZK]

Originally Posted by 2MCoupesam

Breaking news: sky is blue, DCT is quicker than MT, and grass is green.

Sam

Just in, M2C is slow regardless of transmission

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Just in, M2C is slow regardless of transmission

Compared to what?

[MR RIZK]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Compared to what?

It is subjective and what you are used to. For me and it is a personal view coming from heavily modified Nissan's and Subaru's the M2C doesn't provide me the ass puckering out of the box.

Don't get me wrong the M2C is a nice car and excited to own one with future modding potential.

[aerokubectl]

Yeah it's marginally faster...still love my 6MT

[grinch]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

If feels faster because it is faster. You can't change gears manually as fast as a DCT and it's simple to just floor it and go compared to making manual gear changes that require some precision & timing when you are trying to accelerate as fast as possible. With DCT you just floor it and the transmission performs perfect shifts every time. I quite like my 6MT but there are moments where I wish I got the DCT so I could lazily just blast out of intersections or gun it at a moments notice like my DSG Golf R which was a point and shoot car in city traffic. I also feel with my car that there's some strange loss of engine response immediately after shifting when accelerating hard. It's feels different than rev hang and it's not turbo lag.

This was happening on my M2 N55 6MT and it was exasperating for me. Now I have bought M2 competition 6MT and I was hoping it would not happen that way. I hope and I wish no, I hate it. Why does this happen?

I will receive the competition in two or three weeks

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by MR RIZK

It is subjective and what you are used to. For me and it is a personal view coming from heavily modified Nissan's and Subaru's the M2C doesn't provide me the ass puckering out of the box.

Don't get me wrong the M2C is a nice car and excited to own one with future modding potential.

Fair enough - but besides a GTR, I’ve never run across a Nissan or Suby that could hang with my F80...maybe one with the gold wheels would have made all the difference.

[nomoracin]

Originally Posted by jdub486

Was this at Potomac meetup last weekend? That was my hockenheim dct m2c. I remember you saying mine felt faster. I think the loudness in cabin is related to ASD as yours is disabled. The ASD adds a lot of artificial noise. Once mine is broken in we can drive them again. I think if you are going to disable ASD you need an exhaust and or downpipes to bring some sounds back.

Yea, that was me!

[nomoracin]

Originally Posted by jdub486

Potomac Village area. Smaller Cars and coffee type thing. My first time going I don’t know many of the details. We had three Porsche, three Nissan GT-R, a mclaren, one regular m2 and two m2c.

Yea, I rather enjoyed that smaller meet. Everyone was so nice and we were "forced" to talk to each other and not just broken into car manufacturer groups.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by grinch

This was happening on my M2 N55 6MT and it was exasperating for me. Now I have bought M2 competition 6MT and I was hoping it would not happen that way. I hope and I wish no, I hate it. Why does this happen?

I will receive the competition in two or three weeks

Do all F80s do this, inc M3/M4?

[grinch]

Originally Posted by chris719

Do all F80s do this, inc M3/M4?

I don’t know. The M2 N55 6MT sure yes. I have not received my M2 competition yet, I'll know in a few weeks. I just hope not

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by grinch

I don’t know. The M2 N55 6MT sure yes. I have not received my M2 competition yet, I'll know in a few weeks. I just hope not

Let us know if you have this experience. I definitely know what you’re talking about coming from my 6mt M2.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by nomoracin

So, I rode in DCT a few days ago and I'm not sure if it's just in my head, but it felt faster than my 6MT...I think it was louder too.

I'm not talking about flooring it (I know it's like .2 sec faster 0-60), but just some light pulls not exceeding 5k rpms.

I'm wondering if it feels faster/torqueier due to the gearing since it has more gears?

You rode in one or you drove one? The car always feels faster and pulls harder to a passenger and also you are talking about some light pulls here

I have driven both in the S55 and there is not much difference

Have a look at this video

[Twt]

I track my DCT along with my friend who drives a 6mt....cars are set up similar. My DCT jumps off the apex ahead of him at turn 7 at RA and just keeps pulling away reaching a 5mph higher end speed....extra gear and faster shifting....really ticks him off!!

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Twt

I track my DCT along with my friend who drives a 6mt....cars are set up similar. My DCT jumps off the apex ahead of him at turn 7 at RA and just keeps pulling away reaching a 5mph higher end speed....extra gear and faster shifting....really ticks him off!!

Strange...
He's supposed to be smiling, because more immersion, more involvement, more purity etcetera.

Cheers
Robin

[grinch]

Originally Posted by alaing51

Let us know if you have this experience. I definitely know what you’re talking about coming from my 6mt M2.

I will let you know. I love M2 but it was a very big negative section for me