Back to summer setup?

petesamprs · 03-21-2006, 10:25 AM

When are you cold-climate people that have dedicated winter tires switching back to the summer setup? I was going to do it last weekend but I saw snow flurries yesterday. Might wait a couple more weeks.

bt304 · 03-21-2006, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by petesamprs

When are you cold-climate people that have dedicated winter tires switching back to the summer setup? I was going to do it last weekend but I saw snow flurries yesterday. Might wait a couple more weeks.

I was thinking the same thing last weekend. I'll probably wait a few more weeks.

Bimmerista · 03-21-2006, 11:20 AM

I am waiting until (at the earliest) second week of April. I want to see that the lows are around 0-5 degrees Celcius (35-42 Fahrenheit)

Gitta · 03-21-2006, 11:24 AM

I think it depends on where you live. I typically run winter setup from mid December to mid March, but there have been exceptions... I'm about an hour north of Philly.

Bimmerista · 03-21-2006, 11:27 AM

Gitta is 'bout half way between Montreal (me) and Miami (no winter tires ever).

So Gitta's time-line makes sense, for people who really are up North (

) add two-three weeks minimum.

RPM90 · 03-21-2006, 11:46 AM

Ah, the beauty of Pirelli P-zero all seasons with no need to compromise handling and ride and wear during the cold months.

Chicago area I'd go with the beginning of April.

T

jflecha · 03-21-2006, 12:41 PM

I'm gonna force myself to wait till April, cant wait to put the 162's back on.

I miss being glued to the pavement.

bt304 · 03-21-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jflecha

I'm gonna force myself to wait till April, cant wait to put the 162's back on.

I miss being glued to the pavement.

I don't even know what I'm missing - the day I picked up my E90 I put the winter tires on.

petesamprs · 03-21-2006, 01:28 PM

Thanks for the responses. Same here - haven't experienced my 162s yet. I put my winters on the first week I got the car. I live in NY/NJ, so I'll probably switch out end of this month.

Jeffelite · 03-21-2006, 01:37 PM

I was thinking next week, the lows I saw were in the 40s...

ase2dais · 03-21-2006, 01:47 PM

eventhough I dont have the nobby road feel with my Winter Alpins tires, my schedule for them on is Thksgiving thru Easter Wk-end. Imagine as of first day of spring forecast, Snow ?!

dzenno · 03-21-2006, 02:16 PM

In the same boat with other people who had their winters mounted first...still have to try out the summers on 161s

ic · 03-21-2006, 03:10 PM

Not yet...waiting for sometime in April as it might have last snow fall around end of March to early April usually, but this winter is warmer, may be not...

Mr. BMW · 03-21-2006, 03:26 PM

It's not just the bad weather but also the bad roads. Once the weather gets warmer they will fix some of the potholes so the longer you wait the less abuse on your summer wheels

JSpira · 03-21-2006, 03:45 PM

Once temperatures look like they will remain above 4° C (for daily lows), I will switch.

Adhesion is significantly compromised below 4°.

noflash · 03-21-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RPM90

Ah, the beauty of Pirelli P-zero all seasons with no need to compromise handling and ride and wear during the cold months.

Chicago area I'd go with the beginning of April.

T

What size do you have?

I tried my 235/40-18s in the first snow. They did fine until slush built up. Then I started sliding through stop signs. Then I put my Blizzacks on.

StewtheBassman · 03-22-2006, 01:45 PM

I've been back on my runflats for 10 days now, and I'm just starting to remember what nasty propositions they really are!

RPM90 · 03-22-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by noflash

What size do you have?

I tried my 235/40-18s in the first snow. They did fine until slush built up. Then I started sliding through stop signs. Then I put my Blizzacks on.

I have an E46 at the moment with sport pack.
The tires are 225/45/17 all around, not staggered in the E46 325i.
I've had no problem getting around for the past 3 wintes with the all season Pirelli's. I drive accordingly when it snows, slow accel, brake early, check my speed, approach turns with caution.
The roads get salted pretty quick.
When the roads are cleared, which is usually within the same day, the roads are merely damp and cold. The all season tires work great as they are compounded to stick even when temps are much below freezing.

I don't care for ABS and snow myself as that leads to much longer stopping distances. This happens in pretty much all ABS cars.
My mom has a newer Altima that does not have ABS and it stops great in the winter. Sometimes ABS really ticks me off.
It would be cool to be able to turn it off but leave the traction on.
But, in the E46 you can't do it that way. The DSC, traction and ABS all have to be turned off together.

I just drive more cautiously and be extra careful.
T

bimmer4me · 03-22-2006, 02:22 PM

I changed back to my summer setup 2 weeks ago. Only 2 sub-40 degree days so far since then. No snow either.

prolix21 · 03-22-2006, 02:25 PM

i'm gonna wait another couple weeks and see how the weather here is. we had snow yesterday. gotta love spring in cincinnati

noflash · 03-22-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RPM90

I just drive more cautiously and be extra careful.
T

Yes, I definately could've gotten away with using them this year. It's been a very dry winter. But I just knew as soon as I took off my snows, it'd snow.

We just had a foot of snow for the first day of spring. It'll be 50 degrees and raining this weekend. I can't wait any longer. I think I'll switch this weekend.

ase2dais · 03-30-2006, 06:38 AM

heres good info from the m3 moderator Id like to pass on for its noteworthy!

In principle, the summer tire compound starts getting hard and handling/braking effectiveness drops off around 10C to 7C.

Conversely, winter tire compounds start getting soft, less effective and accelerated wear above 10C. I change summer/winter/summer tires based on average temps and weatherforecast.

10c = 50f converted

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Bimmerista Major General 82 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	Gitta is 'bout half way between Montreal (me) and Miami (no winter tires ever). So Gitta's time-line makes sense, for people who really are up North ( ) add two-three weeks minimum.
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petesamprs Lieutenant 34 Rep 519 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: northeast iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the responses. Same here - haven't experienced my 162s yet. I put my winters on the first week I got the car. I live in NY/NJ, so I'll probably switch out end of this month. __________________ '14 535i (ED) Retired: '08 M5, '08 550i (ED), '06 330i
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