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      11-26-2018, 04:45 PM   #1
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M3/M4 to X3M? Who's with me?

Lease up in late April, which should line me up PERFECTLY to transition from my M4 Comp into an X3M.....

Feels like it will be such a fun spin on the M dynamic -- X5M always felt a little too big and over the top to me...
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You're right about the X5M. Fantastic vehicle but it ended up being serious overkill for how we were using it. I just ordered a 4.0 to replace mine. The X3M should be incredible. Just big enough to handle any situation. My X4M40i lease is up in March. Perfect timing. The new one is butt ugly to my eyes. Can't wait.
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Going from this to the X3M comp. when available! (keeping the M3 vert. for those perfect top-down days!)
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Major props to the X3 M40i -- totally on board, totally think it's a steal at $60k and will be even better with 385hp next fall. But the X3M just feels like it's gonna be giddy dumb good fun -- shrieky M engine, crisp size and probably awesome handling.
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M3 lease up in March...deposit already down on X3M...can't wait.
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I keep saying this but after having the G01 M40i for a few months I have no interest in the X3M. It's just too big and heavy to be inherently any fun to drive. The M40i is impressive in a straight line but that's about it. Too loud and rides too harsh for baby duty. Probably should've gotten the 30i to be honest. I think anyone who's coming from a F8X will be disappointed by the driving dynamics of the X3M. Personally will be waiting for the G80 with a 6MT to replace my F80.
Really? I’ve had M3’s and would say that the M40i drives great. Once you get over that it’s an SAV and push it’s limits a bit, it’ll handle much better than most people would think.
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Lease up in late April, which should line me up PERFECTLY to transition from my M4 Comp into an X3M.....

Feels like it will be such a fun spin on the M dynamic -- X5M always felt a little too big and over the top to me...
My M3 is only 4 months old so not replacing it for awhile but I am considering replacing my X5M with the X3M in a year. The size will work better for us but I am concerned that the interior will be a step down. Looking forward to seeing the final product.
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... I am considering replacing my X5M with the X3M in a year. The size will work better for us but I am concerned that the interior will be a step down...
We've never owned an M, so the X3M will be our first experience with the line. But I've been under the assumption that owning a vehicle with that designation insures the quality of workmanship and materials is the same across all platforms (i.e., it doesn't necessarily follow the concept of improved luxury and materials when moving from non-M 3 to 5 to 7 series).

Is my assumption incorrect?
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We've never owned an M, so the X3M will be our first experience with the line. But I've been under the assumption that owning a vehicle with that designation insures the quality of workmanship and materials is the same across all platforms (i.e., it doesn't necessarily follow the concept of improved luxury and materials when moving from non-M 3 to 5 to 7 series).

Is my assumption incorrect?
The materials in my M3 do not match the luxury and features of my X5M which was fine with me since I bought it strictly for the performance and drive. It's also cheaper than my X5M so it's to be expected. I have the X5M also for performance but want the luxury as well since it's our main vehicle and the one we use for longer trips. I don't think the X3M will match the X5M interior level since it's based on the X3 (vs X5) but I am hoping it's nice enough. For example, I am hoping the X3M has ventilated front M sport seats like the X5M (not an option in the M3/M4 line). I know the X3 now has a ventilated seat option but it's not a sport seat.
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The materials in my M3 do not match the luxury and features of my X5M... I don't think the X3M will match the X5M interior level since it's based on the X3 (vs X5) but I am hoping it's nice enough....
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My M3 rattles and creaks like an old battleship. Plus the reduced sound deadening makes for a pretty noisy drive. Merino leather and carbon fiber trim helps swallow the $80k price tag a bit.
Thanks for the input on the M line-up. Was hoping this echelon would forego 'the larger model gets the nicer appointments because it costs more' philosophy. Does Porsche follow the same code with the Cayenne and Macan?

It has nothing to do with the price - if similarly optioned X3M and X5M were offered at the same MSRP, would still choose the X3M. We don't need (nor desire) the added size and weight. Would hope they would at least allow option of 'upgrading' fit and finish to BMW's M level top-shelf components and materials, regardless of model designation.
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My M4 interior materials certainly didn’t feel of a magnitude better than a stock 440i. M cars don’t have the feeling of an AMG which absolutely feels of a different class than non AMG models imho.
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My M4 interior materials certainly didn’t feel of a magnitude better than a stock 440i. M cars don’t have the feeling of an AMG which absolutely feels of a different class than non AMG models imho.
Merino is much better than Dakota leather. Also, if you opted for Full Merino leather (leather cross-stitched dash), it makes the interior look much better.
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Merino is much better than Dakota leather. Also, if you opted for Full Merino leather (leather cross-stitched dash), it makes the interior look much better.
I agree. I have full SO Merino in my M3 and the car no doubt feels more high end. I won't have it any other way. Totally worth it IMO.
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Merino is much better than Dakota leather. Also, if you opted for Full Merino leather (leather cross-stitched dash), it makes the interior look much better.
I took it out of dealer stock. Wasn’t my choice. Next time for sure.
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I'm with you! haha turning in my civic M3 in August. Attempted to get on the X3M list at my dealer but they haven't started taking deposits (will probably go ZCP if available at initial release). Also considering X5 M50i or X5M.. I sat in a G05 40i the other day, while the exterior/interior design is incredible, I agree it just feels too big and would be a huge jump from my F80 (still need to drive one).
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Won't interior seating room be smaller width and depth wise in the X3?
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My F80 is up towards the end of the year, so I'm also starting to sniff around. X3M and the X2M35i are definitely on the list.
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The materials in my M3 do not match the luxury and features of my X5M which was fine with me since I bought it strictly for the performance and drive. It's also cheaper than my X5M so it's to be expected. I have the X5M also for performance but want the luxury as well since it's our main vehicle and the one we use for longer trips. I don't think the X3M will match the X5M interior level since it's based on the X3 (vs X5) but I am hoping it's nice enough. For example, I am hoping the X3M has ventilated front M sport seats like the X5M (not an option in the M3/M4 line). I know the X3 now has a ventilated seat option but it's not a sport seat.
I really doubt the X3M will have ventilated seats. But I would prefer to be wrong on this.
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I keep saying this but after having the G01 M40i for a few months I have no interest in the X3M. It's just too big and heavy to be inherently any fun to drive. The M40i is impressive in a straight line but that's about it. Too loud and rides too harsh for baby duty. Probably should've gotten the 30i to be honest. I think anyone who's coming from a F8X will be disappointed by the driving dynamics of the X3M. Personally will be waiting for the G80 with a 6MT to replace my F80.
whoa.. you just changed your ID? like almost the same time as my reply.

I am thinking this may be the wise man's choice.. I have driven an X3M30 but not the Xm40. I am also thinking that the straight line speed advantage is not worth it.... while it may get to point A and B quicker in the stop light derby... I don't see the X3 M40 as being anything near an M3 for sport touring or god forbid track driving.


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Really? I’ve had M3’s and would say that the M40i drives great. Once you get over that it’s an SAV and push it’s limits a bit, it’ll handle much better than most people would think.
yes.. but it's still an SAV... and coming from an E84 X1... the X3 M30 ride height too me... along with overall size.. is still large enough to keep one reminded that it's indeed an SAV..


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Well all I can say is that I drive both on a daily basis and there's no comparison at all. I'd say a X3M would be a good complement to a stable with a fun car already for people with money to burn but I don't think it would satisfy someone looking for a replacement for a M3/M4.
Ugh... grudgingly I am very much in agreement here.. while I have been really looking at the X3M as a replacement for my E84 X1..... Unless I am pleasantly surprised... for anyone that tracks a vehicle occasionally.. I cannot see the X3M as being a do everything vehicle... and.. if one has a more sporty vehicle in the garage, then it seems like the X3M is really overkill. If one has the means then sure.. but clearly just as others have posted that the X5M really was overkill.. it seems like the X3M could be as well.

When I opted to pick up my E84... I ended up with the Sdrive28 M sport rather than Xdrive35 because I wanted the RWD dynamics (as well as lower curb weight.. plus I am in TX) . 3 years later.. I haven't regretted that choice at all.

I'm going to keep my eye on the X3M.... but I have a sports car in the 1M in the garage... so an X3 M30 M sport may be where I land.

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Will the X3M be more fun than an Alfa Stelvio Quattroporte? The M40i wasn't even close.
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Will the X3M be more fun than an Alfa Stelvio Quattroporte? The M40i wasn't even close.
Would expect the X3M at 490 HP (Wt/HP ratio of 8.67) to be more on par with the Quadrifoglio (Wt/HP of 8.51), as the M40i isn't a fair fight since it's ratio is 12.16. If one is referring to handling and dynamics, then you'd almost have to compare the Stelvio Ti Sport with a ratio of 14.44 and 0-60 of 5.4s, which sits square between the M40i and the X3 30i (ratio of 16.8).
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