Should've the power window controls on the E90 been placed on the center console?

03-20-2006, 09:17 AM

I really miss not having the power window controls on the center console like in previous BMW's.I find myself inadevertently using the power window control for the rear left window instead of the driver window.Is it a design flaw or it's just me.

petesamprs · 03-20-2006, 09:18 AM

Agreed. It's just too far forward. Many people here agree.

england1987 · 03-20-2006, 09:47 AM

I prefer the window buttons wear the shifter is, but I can't really bitch about it much, they work where they are

vladinecko · 03-20-2006, 09:49 AM

someone made a poll regarding this issue a while ago. see it here.

shragon · 03-20-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by quincy

I really miss not having the power window controls on the center console like in previous BMW's.I find myself inadevertently using the power window control for the rear left window instead of the driver window.Is it a design flaw or it's just me.

agreed on both.

porscheneer · 03-20-2006, 12:13 PM

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jjbirch · 03-20-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by porscheneer

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yeah v true i dont like them on the door and the arm goes away from u too far down

dencoop · 03-20-2006, 12:18 PM

I dont mind them where they are...since this is my first BMW...had Hondas/Acuras/Nissans/Mazdas in the past...and the buttons on all of those were on the door...the only issue I have is that they are too far down...I keep opening the Pass. window instead of mine.

Thanks.

Gitta · 03-20-2006, 12:24 PM

I agree they are too far down, but I like them better on the arm than in the center. On a related note, I wish there was a light on the mirror fold and left/right mirror selection buttons.

Imperial · 03-20-2006, 12:27 PM

Agreed, they're too far down. I accidentally roll the rear passenger window down fairly often, too. I don't mind em on the door so much but maybe if they were a bit further back...

LEDZEP · 03-20-2006, 12:33 PM

Absolutely not. They belong on the door just where they are. When I had an E46 loaner I thought the center console location was awkward.

Let's not rehash the "too far down" debate again.

e90rocks · 03-20-2006, 12:36 PM

Driver door...I like it there. One thing I do like about the 3's cabin is the relative unclutter of the center area.

billgti · 03-20-2006, 12:42 PM

if i could choose, i would want them around the shifter like in previous bmws. i like having the ability to simultaneously hold on to my parking pass/ticket with my left hand and rolling down the window with my right.

Mr. BMW · 03-20-2006, 12:46 PM

I'd rather have them on the console like before. It took me a while to get use to them on the door in my X5, after having an E36 and E46.
I guess it won't be a big issue now when I get the new car since I'm use to having them on the door but I would still rather have them on the console.

vladinecko · 03-20-2006, 12:49 PM

my only problem with having them on the door is that i very often pull down the back windows because i don't reach all the way to the front window buttons.

nabutes · 03-20-2006, 12:51 PM

You know what I would really like to have seen, the unlock button on the door...

If I have something in my rear seat, and I forget to unlock all the doors when I get out, I'm forced to perform a damn Cirque du Soleil contortion maneuver to reach the button from the outside...

Granted I have comfort access so I don't even know where my keys are half the time...

ksfrogman · 03-20-2006, 12:54 PM

I don't mind the controls being on the doors, but agree with others here that they are a bit too far forward to be ergonimically optimal. I'm not Stretch Armstrong, so I too hit the left rear button when trying to open the driver's window.

e90rocks · 03-20-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by billgti

if i could choose, i would want them around the shifter like in previous bmws. i like having the ability to simultaneously hold on to my parking pass/ticket with my left hand and rolling down the window with my right.

I don't have the wingspan to do that and insert/swipe the card. How are you steering when you do this?

jflecha · 03-20-2006, 01:36 PM

My seats almost all the way back and front window switches are out reach.

That being said, they should stay where they are, I have to lean forward to open a window sometimes, so what.

LEDZEP · 03-20-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nabutes

You know what I would really like to have seen, the unlock button on the door...

If I have something in my rear seat, and I forget to unlock all the doors when I get out, I'm forced to perform a damn Cirque du Soleil contortion maneuver to reach the button from the outside...

Granted I have comfort access so I don't even know where my keys are half the time...

That's funny! I have to do the same thing sometimes.

billgti · 03-20-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by e90rocks

I don't have the wingspan to do that and insert/swipe the card. How are you steering when you do this?

with my knees

just kidding. it's usually when i'm just inching forward going straight so i don't really need to have my hands on the steering wheel.

David328M-Sport · 03-20-2006, 05:23 PM

I had 6 1/2 years of centre console window lifts (BMW term) and my wife's merc has the lifts on the driver's door. I drive her car lots and I was always confused with the switch placements - poor little brain of mine!

Now with the switches in the same place, my brain is happy!!

No problem

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03-20-2006, 09:18 AM	#2
petesamprs Lieutenant 34 Rep 519 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: northeast iTrader: (0)	Agreed. It's just too far forward. Many people here agree. __________________ '14 535i (ED) Retired: '08 M5, '08 550i (ED), '06 330i
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england1987 Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 280 Posts Drives: Z4 M coupe Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC, USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 Z4 M Coupe [7.50]	I prefer the window buttons wear the shifter is, but I can't really bitch about it much, they work where they are
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dencoop Captain 165 Rep 690 Posts Drives: Porsche (991) 911 C4S Cab Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (1)	I dont mind them where they are...since this is my first BMW...had Hondas/Acuras/Nissans/Mazdas in the past...and the buttons on all of those were on the door...the only issue I have is that they are too far down...I keep opening the Pass. window instead of mine. Thanks. __________________ For Sale: Brand New Alpine White Rear Bumper E90 4dr 325/328/330 $399
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Imperial First Lieutenant 11 Rep 304 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Del Mar, CA iTrader: (0)	Agreed, they're too far down. I accidentally roll the rear passenger window down fairly often, too. I don't mind em on the door so much but maybe if they were a bit further back... __________________ 2006 330i 6MT - Black Sapphire Metallic - Terra Leather - ZSP - ZPP - iDrive - Sirius
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e90rocks Myrmidon 17 Rep 236 Posts Drives: Entwicklung 90 - 325 Xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325 xi [0.00]	Window controls Driver door...I like it there. One thing I do like about the 3's cabin is the relative unclutter of the center area.
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billgti Lieutenant 26 Rep 506 Posts Drives: 06 BMW 330i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	if i could choose, i would want them around the shifter like in previous bmws. i like having the ability to simultaneously hold on to my parking pass/ticket with my left hand and rolling down the window with my right.
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Mr. BMW Major 262 Rep 1,389 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 M3 [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00] 2018 Jeep Grand Che ... [0.00]	I'd rather have them on the console like before. It took me a while to get use to them on the door in my X5, after having an E36 and E46. I guess it won't be a big issue now when I get the new car since I'm use to having them on the door but I would still rather have them on the console.
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nabutes career student 11 Rep 204 Posts Drives: '08 335xi Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NJ >> VA/DC iTrader: (0)	You know what I would really like to have seen, the unlock button on the door... If I have something in my rear seat, and I forget to unlock all the doors when I get out, I'm forced to perform a damn Cirque du Soleil contortion maneuver to reach the button from the outside... Granted I have comfort access so I don't even know where my keys are half the time...
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jflecha Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 205 Posts Drives: E90 06 330i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Garden State iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330I [0.00]	My seats almost all the way back and front window switches are out reach. That being said, they should stay where they are, I have to lean forward to open a window sometimes, so what. __________________ Tit-Silver 330i/STEP/SP/PP/CWP
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