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      06-24-2008, 12:29 PM   #1
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ECU Remap Offers

Hi Guys,

Our first offers to forum members:

ECU remaps / Software Upgrades -

BMW E9x 320d - 335d

£350 including before and after remap dyno sessions.

You get printed graphs and we will also host the Dyno Dynamics generated Jpeg files for you or load them onto your USB stick if you have one.

Entire process takes approximately 2-3 hours.

Our equipment reads and loads the software through the OBD port. No removing of the ECU required.

Prices include VAT and are valid until 16 August 2008 for members with 50 + posts.

The 320d 177bhp and 335i OBD maps is nearly finished and will be released soon.

Power and torque gains can vary according to your needs. We can map the engines for economy, power or a blend of both.

Feel free to call or PM.

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Power and torque gains can vary according to your needs. We can map the engines for economy, power or a blend of both.
How far can you push the 335d (power/torque) without potential issues?

Mine's already mapped but would be interested to see what sort of figures your maps produce.

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What's your figures for a 163hp 320D "power" map? Are you only in Luton?
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I would be interested. I assume the bhp increase is around 55hp and 80Nm

I have to get the dealer to update my progman sorted first, as I am guessing the update would wipe the remap

I live in Hemel hempstead, so pretty close to you guys.
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Do you fit and tune new engine management systems?
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Waiting for the 335i remap with baited breath!!!!
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I'm looking for a reflash for my 120d 177hp -07. Figures?

Can you send it to me so I can reflash my self? Like with this company.

http://sv.bsr.se/products/ppc/
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How far can you push the 335d (power/torque) without potential issues?

Mine's already mapped but would be interested to see what sort of figures your maps produce.

Jules.
Hi Jules,

The maximum figures we have ever had from a 35d was 360bhp.

We feel that around 350bhp and 700Nm torque is the maximum these engines should be taken to.

These are however only peak figures. To us, what is of more importance is the power delivery and the shape of the power curves and how the car drives on the road.

We aim not to lose any power or torque at any point in the rpm range and to have a consistent wave of torque rather than it coming in suddenly and then dying off or coming in later than standard.

This really dictates as to how the car will drive on the road.

How much power/torque was quoted from the company which did your remap?

Do you have any before and after dyno plots?
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I'm looking for a reflash for my 120d 177hp -07. Figures?

Can you send it to me so I can reflash my self? Like with this company.

http://sv.bsr.se/products/ppc/
They don't list anything for any E9x
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What's your figures for a 163hp 320D "power" map? Are you only in Luton?
Hi Paul,

The 163 bhp engine will safely go to 205bhp.

We are not far from Luton Airport.
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What improvements could you acheive on an Alpina D3 Sal?
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Do you fit and tune new engine management systems?
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We do fit and map after market management systems. 3 of our own cars have after market management.

If you have any specfic requirement let us know and we will most likely be able to help.
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Hi Jules,

The maximum figures we have ever had from a 35d was 360bhp.

We feel that around 350bhp and 700Nm torque is the maximum these engines should be taken to.

These are however only peak figures. To us, what is of more importance is the power delivery and the shape of the power curves and how the car drives on the road.

We aim not to lose any power or torque at any point in the rpm range and to have a consistent wave of torque rather than it coming in suddenly and then dying off or coming in later than standard.

This really dictates as to how the car will drive on the road.

How much power/torque was quoted from the company which did your remap?

Do you have any before and after dyno plots?
Hi Sal,

We met at Fighting Torque last year, you were there with Imran and the impressive Z3MC.

At that event I was running a strong (low down) map and the car did well, however it never felt smooth so I had it removed by another Tuner and the map was replaced, the car is now much smoother to drive and feels just as powerful, here is my latest graph with power/torque ATW -



As you can see the run was done on a DD RR which is the same as you use so you should be able to understand / compare against your own info. I want as strong a map as possible for FT2 in August, however I wouldn't want to lose this map if the map that replaces it isn't as strong or smooth.

360bhp sounds very impressive and this would make it around 290bhp ATW on the DD rollers. I like the way my torque comes in but believe it could be held at that level for longer, when I compare my curves to others from the DD mine has similar bhp but higher torque....not quite sure why..

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I'm looking for a reflash for my 120d 177hp -07. Figures?

Can you send it to me so I can reflash my self? Like with this company.

http://sv.bsr.se/products/ppc/
Hi,

we are currently undergoing testing and development on this model/ECU type.

It all works but we have not yet tried to extract maximum power or explored the limits.

We would expect atleast 205bhp.

As for the swithcable units, again this is something we already offer for some models. Once the map itself has been full tested and developed we will then look into swithcable units.

Once the 177bhp remaps are done we will make an annoucement as a large amount of interest has been shown.

The same goes with the E9x 335i's. One the testing has been done we will be giving bmwbailey the chance to evaluate it all.
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What improvements could you acheive on an Alpina D3 Sal?
Hi,

Is this the D3 Bi-Turbo Model?
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Hi,

Is this the D3 Bi-Turbo Model?
No its a 2.0 L diesel based on the 320d with a larger turbo and other Alpina mods.

http://www.thealpinaregister.com/car...=773&section=2
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Hi Jules,

Hope your well.

I've carefully looked at your graph and compared it to our 650Nm map and the shape looks exactly the same. Even comparing different RPM points and power produced it's almost identical.

The torque is a little higher everywhere though but there is a simple explantion for this.

The dyno speed vs rpm calibration is slightly out on your graph. The dyno dynamics measures BHP and then using an equation calculates the torque. One of the variables that it uses is rpm's. If the RPM's have been inputted incorrectly then this will distort the torque graph.

I should point out that this small error is very easy to make by any dyno operator.

Maybe it would be better to give the people who remapped your car the chance to get a little more power first?
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No its a 2.0 L diesel based on the 320d with a larger turbo and other Alpina mods.

http://www.thealpinaregister.com/car...=773&section=2

It is possible we can get more power and torque from this engine. We have had a little experience of mapping Alpina's before. The gains are less than what we get from standard cars but there are gains to be had in most cases.

If your interested in giving it a go then so are we.
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Hi Jules,

Hope your well.

I've carefully looked at your graph and compared it to our 650Nm map and the shape looks exactly the same. Even comparing different RPM points and power produced it's almost identical.

The torque is a little higher everywhere though but there is a simple explantion for this.

The dyno speed vs rpm calibration is slightly out on your graph. The dyno dynamics measures BHP and then using an equation calculates the torque. One of the variables that it uses is rpm's. If the RPM's have been inputted incorrectly then this will distort the torque graph.

I should point out that this small error is very easy to make by any dyno operator.

Maybe it would be better to give the people who remapped your car the chance to get a little more power first?
I'm good thanks.

Aren't the rpms calculated by running the car in 1st? If so this was done prior to the run, it's been ran on this dyno many times and the parameters are kept the same. Would like to run it on another DD to check though and was going to pop it on SRR next time I was around that area (live in S Yorks but travel to Milton Keynes and London fairly reguarly - M1/M25). The current Tuner feels that it's at it's optimum settings? So would get no joy looking for more power.

Jules.
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Jules,

The RPM's are calculated in the gear the the car is to be run in on the dyno. In this case 4th gear.

It may be a good idea to have it run on another dyno. Your welcome to come here, we are not far from Milton Keynes.

Different tuners have different maps or sets of maps.

If they not willing to give it a try then we can but we do feel that is a very good map and possibly another 15bhp and 30Nm+ of torque can be had. It all depends on whether or not you feel it's worth paying an additional £350 to get that sort of extra gain.
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Hi,

We do fit and map after market management systems. 3 of our own cars have after market management.

If you have any specfic requirement let us know and we will most likely be able to help.
Right it's a bit of a long story after looking at all the different ways to tune my MX5, I've looked at FI, n/a and even putting a V8 in it!

After driving an MX5 which has been turbo'd and loving it I've decided this is the way to go.

After looking into it I've realised the ECU will need to be replaced as well as all the other jobs.

Looking to be running at about 180-200bhp in the end, MX5 Mad has two options a Greddy EManage and an Emerald, though the Greddy is only good for about 165bhp the Emerald is good for 200, I don't actaully understand why they differ in what power they can go up to, I'm a little confused by it all!!

If you could give me any further information as to what I need and in what order I need to do it that would be much appreciated!

I'm looking at doing this with my MX5:
1. Brakes and Suspension
2. Exhaust System, decatting it and fitting a sports exhaust
3. Turboing it and adding the things associated.

Will I need to sort the ECU before I get someone to fit the turbo and extras required, I will not be fitting that myself as I am not that capable of knowing what I was doing lol!
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Hi,

Your requirements are not an issue.

We shall discuss this over PM/email if that's ok with you?
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