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      06-21-2008, 02:22 PM   #1
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Possible supercharger soon...

http://84.243.254.242/~verhoeven/web...dex.php?id=147

http://www.ca-automotive.co.uk/singl...faWQ9Nzk=.html

Last night I decided to do some searching, and these two sites popped up. They both say they are in development for a SC for our cars! =). Both saying that they should be done with R&D, and have a product in the near future. I e-mailed the second site asking the progress, I have yet to receive an response.

The only bad thing is they are both over seas in the UK. But, nonetheless I want to see one of these systems come out! Thought i would share these two companies with you guys.
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What's the difference between a Supercharged and a Turbocharged?
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Short answer.

Supercharger is belt driven. Turbo charger has it's own drive system.
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What's the difference between a Supercharged and a Turbocharged?
Supercharger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharger

v.s.

Turbocharger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharger

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+ you dont get that PSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssh noise from turbos instead you get a electric sounding whinning noise.
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the second link says the ESS Tuning supercharger kit... that was a while ago... pretty sure that's not happening.
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the second link says the ESS Tuning supercharger kit... that was a while ago... pretty sure that's not happening.
Sad news.. let's see what they e-mail me back with. I will let you all know as soon as I hear something. The first link seems more legit to me, but you never know.
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+ you dont get that PSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssh noise from turbos instead you get a electric sounding whinning noise.
you my friend are very confused.
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What's the difference between a Supercharged and a Turbocharged?
A supercharger (or 'blower' ) is a gas compressor that forces more air into the combustion chamber(s) of an internal combustion engine than is achievable with ambient atmospheric pressure (as seen in a naturally-aspirated engine, see forced induction). The higher mass flow rate together with an increased heat input provided by additional fuel combining with the greater mass of atmospheric oxygen available, increases the specific cycle work and hence power output of the engine.
A supercharger can be powered mechanically by belt, gear and shaft, or chain-drive from the engine's crankshaft. It can also be driven by a gas turbine powered by the exhaust gases from the engine. Such turbine-driven centrifugal superchargers are correctly known as turbo-superchargers, or more commonly, turbochargers.



In internal combustion engines a turbocharger is a turbine-driven, forced-induction compressor powered by the engine's exhaust gas. This is in contrast to a supercharger, which is mechanically driven by the engine's crankshaft via a belt or chain.
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Sad news.. let's see what they e-mail me back with. I will let you all know as soon as I hear something. The first link seems more legit to me, but you never know.
actually ess is a pretty well known company and are pretty reputable. A friend of mine has their kit on his e46. Not bad at all.
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you can get a pssss sound on a supercharger buddy. both make boost both need to be released. its better on turbo tho.
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actually ess is a pretty well known company and are pretty reputable. A friend of mine has their kit on his e46. Not bad at all.
i think he meant that its sad news that the ESS Tuning kit was talked about long ago but the company never actually produced anything for the n52. in addition, i think the site is just a vendor for ESS kits and despite having the kit listed--the kit isn't really in development anymore.
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i think he meant that its sad news that the ESS Tuning kit was talked about long ago but the company never actually produced anything for the n52. in addition, i think the site is just a vendor for ESS kits and despite having the kit listed--the kit isn't really in development anymore.
yup that's the sad news I was talking about haha.

Anyone know why ESS stoped R&D on the supercharger?

Hopefully this mosslen company pulls through. Or at least something from AA or VF pops up.
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yup that's the sad news I was talking about haha.

Anyone know why ESS stoped R&D on the supercharger?

Hopefully this mosslen company pulls through. Or at least something from AA or VF pops up.
Perhaps because they think that even if they do make it, in the end E90 owners will be too scared to actually buy it? Otherwise you guys should be clamoring for them to make this.
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In short, a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gas. That's why it sits on the exhaust manifold. A supercharger is driven by crankshaft rotation via belt or chain.
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Perhaps because they think that even if they do make it, in the end E90 owners will be too scared to actually buy it? Otherwise you guys should be clamoring for them to make this.
Ray Korman is an authorized Mosselman dealer/installer.

One is available for the M10 engine (for those with the 318i)
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Ray Korman is an authorized Mosselman dealer/installer.

One is available for the M10 engine (for those with the 318i)
Good news. We should all send Mosselman e-mails expressing our interest in a SC for the N52. Hopefully they will produce it like it says so on their site.
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