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      06-04-2018, 04:51 AM   #1
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M5 v (S6, RS6, 911, C63, E63s, RS6, Huracan)

Saw one posted somewhere from this event but stumbled on a few more. It's pretty astonishing how well the M5 does stock.
  • vs Audi S6 Stage 3 (670HP)


  • vs Audi RS6 C7 stage 2 (750 HP)


  • vs Porsche 911 Turbo S Gad Motors (800HP)


  • vs Mercedes C63 AMG Weistec


  • vs E63s AMG stage ?


  • and another run with the same E63s I think


  • vs Lamborghini Huracan Roadster

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      06-04-2018, 05:20 AM   #2
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These were all from an event called the Moscow Mile held June 2 and 3rd

DSC Off, one of the organizers of the Moscow Mile event, streamed them in their entirety here:

Day 1


Day 2

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      06-04-2018, 05:23 AM   #3
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NOT STOCK! It has a CF splitter and stickers which add +15 hp!
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NOT STOCK! It has a CF splitter and stickers which add +15 hp!
lol i stand corrected :P
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NOT STOCK! It has a CF splitter and stickers which add +15 hp!
Don't forget the chrome delete on the grill.
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      06-04-2018, 08:00 AM   #6
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M5 looks extremely strong in the 1/4 mile. Drops off some up top.
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Very impressive.
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      06-04-2018, 10:20 AM   #8
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M5 looks extremely strong in the 1/4 mile. Drops off some up top.
This has been what I have commented on - BMW has geared and tuned this car for 0 to 1/4 mile - this seems to be a common practice these days - and somewhat makes sense as most will never see speeds above that.
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      06-04-2018, 10:25 AM   #9
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This has been what I have commented on - BMW has geared and tuned this car for 0 to 1/4 mile - this seems to be a common practice these days - and somewhat makes sense as most will never see speeds above that.
Agreed. I’ve been looking for some 1/2 and 1 mile events. Nothing very close. 0-130 feels pretty strong. Two non Zo6 Corvettes agree
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NOT STOCK! It has a CF splitter and stickers which add +15 hp!
Yes, leave the stock exhaust and stock tyres and the 0.1s difference will disappear.

Even Guram in the race against the K8-Strasse RS6 comments "there is always some black magic from this owner". It does one 10.8s run and then never comes close. On the Russian BMW forum they all question how the car can do a 10.8s run and then be consistently 0.5s slower .
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      06-04-2018, 12:36 PM   #11
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Yes, leave the stock exhaust and stock tyres and the 0.1s difference will disappear.

Even Guram in the race against the K8-Strasse RS6 comments "there is always some black magic from this owner". It does one 10.8s run and then never comes close. On the Russian BMW forum they all question how the car can do a 10.8s run and then be consistently 0.5s slower .
And this has been my point...I have been racing for several decades - and one constant is almost always true - owners lie about their cars. This is why you need 3rd party testing and reviews. I know you don't like it (REALLY don't like it) - but the F90 M5 is slightly quicker and faster than the E63S. The CP will be more so.
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And this has been my point...I have been racing for several decades - and one constant is almost always true - owners lie about their cars. This is why you need 3rd party testing and reviews. I know you don't like it (REALLY don't like it) - but the F90 M5 is slightly quicker and faster than the E63S. The CP will be more so.
I don't doubt that...but then there is the new sub 2 second Maserati and we can all live happily ever after
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      06-04-2018, 03:07 PM   #13
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I don't doubt that...but then there is the new sub 2 second Maserati and we can all live happily ever after
There will always be a quicker and faster car. But for the F90 M5 vs E63S - the F90 is just slightly quicker - whether you doubt it or not. The 3rd party, independent testing - North America and Euro - has been pretty conclusive and consistent.

And the CP is on its way.

As I stated on another thread - I should be one of the first with a CP - and the moment I have mine and broken in - I will be at a track to run some test runs.

My guess is it will be a consistent 10.8-10.9 car - with a 10.7 on ridiculous air/DA. it will also likely be 1-2 MPH faster than the non-CP F90 (so 128-131 MPH). Of course - it will be even more tuned for the road course - So the E63S will not be able to challenge it in either straight line or definitely on a road course.
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The GTRs are Brutal! 1-2-3 Finish, the M5 was 22nd
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damn, the m5 is so bad, guess the stickers didn’t add those +15hp after all
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damn, the m5 is so bad, guess the stickers didn’t add those +15hp after all
The owner ruined the clean lines of the M5 with that graffiti....
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      06-04-2018, 07:15 PM   #17
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The GTRs are Brutal! 1-2-3 Finish, the M5 was 22nd
It's just so silly - comparing 1500-1800+ awhp cars to from ETS and other Shops to a stock F90 M5...it doesn't make your point - only makes you look silly.

Seriously.
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It's just so silly - comparing 1500-1800+ awhp cars to from ETS and other Shops to a stock F90 M5...it doesn't make your point - only makes you look silly.

Seriously.
Don’t tell that to the M5, with all the stickers and everything, I believe it was there to win.

At least he didn’t show up in a 550 with M badges .
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Don’t tell that to the M5, with all the stickers and everything, I believe it was there to win.

At least he didn’t show up in a 550 with M badges .
We’ve already established you know very little about actual racing. That is quite clear. Again - try comparing stock to stock - where a GTR would lose to it in the KM.

As to the M550 - which is what I have while I wait for my CP.

The badges were put on by BMW - not me. This “fake” M nonsense make me laugh. Plus - I will bet my M550 will take down a F10 M5 8/10 times in real life - depending on prep - just like the C6Z I took down three times in a row - who outtrapped me by 15 MPH - because AWD.

That’s right - my family GT car - the - M - 550.
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We’ve already established you know very little about actual racing. That is quite clear. Again - try comparing stock to stock - where a GTR would lose to it in the KM.

As to the M550 - which is what I have while I wait for my CP.

The badges were put on by BMW - not me. This “fake” M nonsense make me laugh. Plus - I will bet my M550 will take down a F10 M5 8/10 times in real life - depending on prep - just like the C6Z I took down three times in a row - who outtrapped me by 15 MPH - because AWD.

That’s right - my family GT car - the - M - 550.
No , I think I know quite a bit....

Did you know a stock M5 is limited to 164mph(the same BS C&D you quoted). A GTR hits 195MPH stock

Wrong again about the 1km stats:

GTR : 20.1s @ 260kph

F90 M5: 20.5 s @ 259.6 kph

You do not have to be so defensive about the M badges on your 5-series, maybe they peel off better with some hot water....

As for the F10 M5, it sucks off the line without DRs that’s 4sure
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No , I think I know quite a bit....

Did you know a stock M5 is limited to 164mph(the same BS C&D you referenced). You want to go faster , that will be more $$ please.

A GTR hits 195MPH stock

Here are the 1km times :

GTR : 20.1s @ 260kph

F90 M5: 20.5 s @ 259.6 kph

Peace on you
You only "know" what you've read. Unlike yourself - I have raced many 1/2 and full mile competitions. From near stock - to not. With a GTR. A non-limited M5 - which is an option - will go much faster than a stock R35 GTR in the KM. In fact - I believe an M5 will get close to 160 MPH in the 1/2 mile - so it will pick up more than it needs to beat 162.5 MPH by the stock GTR with another 200 metres. Your source of all knowledge - the one race of one F90 - may not be as complete as you seem to believe.

You were so "peaceful" all of the sudden after your "M550 second stringer" comment. Until your EDIT...

So on that note:

Don't worry - I don't need to take off the badges BMW put on my car...I am fortunate to have an F90 CP on order...and that would make three cars I own that you won't beat...in any way. Ever.

Save the hot water for your salty tears.

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You only "know" what you've read. Unlike yourself - I have raced many 1/2 and full mile competitions. From near stock - to not. With a GTR. A non-limited M5 - which is an option - will go much faster than a stock R35 GTR in the KM. In fact - I believe an M5 will get close to 160 MPH in the 1/2 mile - so it will pick up more than it needs to beat 162.5 MPH by the stock GTR with another 200 metres. Your source of all knowledge - the one race of one F90 - may not be as complete as you seem to believe.

You were so "peaceful" all of the sudden after your "M550 second stringer" comment. Until your EDIT...

So on that note:

Don't worry - I don't need to take off the badges BMW put on my car...I am fortunate to have an F90 CP on order...and that would make three cars I own that you won't beat...in any way. Ever.

Save the hot water for your salty tears.
Bro, any time and any place (no ice or igloos please), I will show you what a 5.2L TT can do LOL. Until then Peace on you!
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