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      05-16-2018, 04:50 PM   #1
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Can someone look at my Alignment Sheet

Still Trying to find a good alignment shop and today I finished the Front Suspension Upgrade of BMWPS and B8, also installed M3 Control and Thrust Arms along with new mounts and pads.

This alignment sheet has no key and I was so pissed at the shop when I left I just left...Long story there but just wanting help deciphering this sheet.

No Key for their Symbols on the page anywhere so I am just guessing but I think it's my Caster that is 7.66/7.58??

Not sure what the Second Symbol is but it is out too with -1.24/-.96 is this Toe?

Third symbol????

I want words not symbols, this is an alignment not a text

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      05-16-2018, 05:13 PM   #2
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Caster is first symbol, camber is second, toe is third

Was going off symbols, looked at specs and I was wrong.

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Caster is first symbol, toe is second, camber is third.
Cool, thanks...this sheet actually looks better on here than it does in person as the inks are fading but here they are more legible.
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So what is the opinion on this alignment.
That caster seems a little much, I think I read somewhere E9s are around 6 normally but I am not sure.
Thanks
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Cool, thanks...this sheet actually looks better on here than it does in person as the inks are fading but here they are more legible.
Sorry, I was wrong. I was going off the symbols, but looking at the measurements its Caster, camber, toe.
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So what is the opinion on this alignment.
That caster seems a little much, I think I read somewhere E9s are around 6 normally but I am not sure.
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Caster is non adjustable unless you have caster/camber plates. Either worn parts/bushings or bent parts can cause caster to be off.
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The symbols and measurements don't immediately jive, the two tires leaning in make me think camber and it was throwing me off
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The symbols and measurements don't immediately jive, the two tires leaning in make me think camber and it was throwing me off
Exactly, and also because I didn't get how a pic of a strut/brake equates to showing camber lol.
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Caster is non adjustable unless you have caster/camber plates. Either worn parts/bushings or bent parts can cause caster to be off.
Everything is new, Struts/Shocks, Springs, Strut Mounts, Pads, M3 Control Arms and Thrust Arms, Rear is all new too with M3 Arms, Adjustable Toe Arms, Shocks/Springs and Mounts.

Only thing I haven't replace yet is Tie-Rods
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Like I said caster is not adjustable unless you have special parts installed. It is not anything to worry about unless one is way off from the other, then something is bent/not right. Stock is around 7*, you're fine.
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Ok, so found on M3 board some of them are at 7.8/7.7 Caster and also found this concerning early E92's, hopefully LCI is close to it
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Caster is Ok. Front camber is uneven and will pull slightly to the right. Rear toe might cause inside tire wear.
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Caster is Ok. Front camber is uneven and will pull slightly to the right. Rear toe might cause inside tire wear.

Thanks, Feuer....

I think I will give the suspension a few days to settle then take it again for an re-alignment.
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So, while I had it in for alignment after the suspension install I also had them install 2 new tires on the front. My 225-40/18 were shot so I grabbed some 235-40/18's.
Well, now when I back out and turn they are rubbing on the cooling vents in the front tire well, the ones for the oil cooler and additional remote radiator (335is).
Why does it only rub when in reverse and not when going forward?
I didn't think 235's would rub, still on stock 313's 8x18.
Tires are BFG Sport Comp 2 A/S
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So, I had the car re-aligned today at a much better shop.
The guy doing the alignment seemed to really understand BMW's.
The alignment is much better and the results are good.
The car has been to 3 different shops for alignment in 2 mos and funny thing is is that this last guy was the best and the cheapest, price wise. Go Figure.
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