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Comparos Compilation: E63 S vs M5 F90
Decided to do a thread that would organize and put all the comparos together. I appreciate all the incredible folks who posted the magazine prints and the general impressions:
Comparos with lap times: Autobild SportsCars https://www.flickr.com/photos/dedeth...r/39935768360/ Contidrom M5 did 1:31.08 vs E63 S 1:31.46 The M5 won the general comparo by 5 points Autobild SportsCars http://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1494962 Sachsenring M5 did 1:34.36 vs 1:35.90 for the E63 S M5 F90 won the general comparo. Sport Auto http://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1485738 Hockenheim M5 F90 did 1:10.6 vs E63 S 1:11.3 M5 won the general comparo in terms of performance (did not assess the rest) Autozeitung Test http://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1487748 Autozeitung Test Track M5 F90 did 1:38.5 vs E63 S 1:39.9 M5 won the general comparo as well http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/5-s...des-amg-e-63-s Llandow M5 F90 did 44.7 vs E63 S 44.6 M5 won the general comparo Comparos without lap times: AutoMotor Und Sport http://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1485419 E63 S and M5 F90 tied Top Gear https://www.topgear.com/videos/top-g...-amg-e63-s-ice E63 S won CarAndDriver https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...-bmw-m5-page-5 M5 F90 won AutoCar https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...on-triple-test M5 F90 won as well Other plausible lap time comparison: Automovil Lap times 1:09.99 for the M5 F90 vs 1:10.01 for the E63 S Last edited by CarlosM4; 05-12-2018 at 08:24 AM.. |
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I already Dynoed my car and F90s are highly underrated.
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I already Dynoed my car and F90s are highly underrated.
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Thanks for creating this! Looking forward to more feedback as people begin to take delivery and more people get their hands on them.
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So far the M5 is the fastest 4 door on MT Figure 8, Hockenheim, Autozeitung test track, Contidrom, Automovil test track (and apparently Shanghai International too)
Curious how M5 seems to be faster than M3/4 Competition Package on track. I wish BMW would release a Nurburgring lap time but that will probably never happen |
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BMW M has great prowess in making good cars on track. The M5 will always crush the M3/M4 due to its massive power and traction advantage (which easily overcomes the weight penalty). The E60 used to beat the E46 M3 by quite a lot, the F10 used to murder the E92, and the F90 murders the F8x platform on track. It is always to be expected. |
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great compilation Carlos....
So Ive sourced an F90 M5 inbound in Nardo Grey. Im just wondering if its worth it to grab now or wait for the ZCP. I did regret, just a little, grabbing my 2013 F10 M5 in Oct of 2012 because it was a bit too early and then the ZCP's rolled out. Thats why I enjoyed my 2016 more.
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Regarding the purchase of the F90, I am not sure if there is a difference as large as there was on the F10 platform for the ZCP and non ZCP car. If you can buy the F90 now (get a nice deal) take the hit and get the ZCP later (in a great deal as well), you might end in a win win situation. Frankly I would test-drive and get a feel for the standard one first, to see if it is really what you want (as far as reviews and general opinions go, this car is pretty much faultless). If the tune is a mild as it appears to be (slightly stiffer suspension and a small engine tune), since you already upgrade the car, the difference will be pretty minor. It is a tough to call decision |
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I love the M5 but a little more sport right out of the showroom would not hurt. |
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Some early batches of M5 seem to be inflicted with software/fuel tank lining issues (drivetrain malfunction). Be worth to wait a short while and have those issues sort themselves out. Then go for the ZCP in September. Hate to have you go for the base model |
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I would wait though if I were you.
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Nardo is bad ass but yeah--- wait for the ZCP. There are so many reports of when its coming, whats the best guess?
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The other thread says May 8th. Surely it can't hurt too much to wait one week!
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WTF no way, ZCP in a week!!!
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He had some pretty high confidence from my impression.
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Some people here say that it's an extremely friendly mustang Dyno. I don't know.
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