bmw f30 transmission malfunktion

hakisalapaki · 03-12-2018, 08:59 AM

Hi all,
I have a problem since 1 month..
The problem is exactly same as the video.
I have checked,
-gear oil leak
-mechatronic
-Selanoid
-door sensors etc..

can any help?
but i have found out,if i press one time to gas pedal,transmission is working again.btw there is no warn light or messages.

BunkerJ · 03-12-2018, 10:41 AM

Sounds exactly like auto-hold, but not sure if that should shift into park for you: http://www.bavarianmw.com/guide-2506.html

May have something to do with your parking brake?

valetudo81 · 03-12-2018, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Sounds exactly like auto-hold, but not sure if that should shift into park for you: http://www.bavarianmw.com/guide-2506.html

May have something to do with your parking brake?

I was going to say the same thing. Is this happening while parked on a hill/uneven parking surface?

hakisalapaki · 03-13-2018, 08:00 AM

actually not i am parking it in normal surface,there is no hill..
Brake is also working well..

hakisalapaki · 03-13-2018, 08:05 AM

i have also read bavarianmw,thank you,still not solved..

Billfitz · 03-13-2018, 08:50 AM

If you're going to do your own work you need a code reader, like the Foxwell NT510. Without one you can't identify faults.

BunkerJ · 03-13-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hakisalapaki

i have also read bavarianmw,thank you,still not solved..

Check your transmission fluid and see if it's low. You may need to drain and fill, but don't flush it. If not that, check your battery and parking brake actuator.

drivef30 · 03-13-2018, 10:18 AM

Check codes and report back. Otherwise no one can help you

Billfitz · 03-13-2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Check your transmission fluid and see if it's low.

I doubt that, it's as if he tried shifting without a foot on the brake. If the shift controller isn't getting the message that the brake is depressed that would explain it. Which of the myriad of sensors is responsible for that who knows. It would take a code reader to trace it.

BunkerJ · 03-13-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Billfitz

I doubt that, it's as if he tried shifting without a foot on the brake. If the shift controller isn't getting the message that the brake is depressed that would explain it. Which of the myriad of sensors is responsible for that who knows. It would take a code reader to trace it.

I only say that because the guy in the video he linked successfully solved his problem by doing that. Not saying it's it, but it's a possibility. A code reader would help though.

CandyRedRC46 · 03-14-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Check your transmission fluid and see if it's low. You may need to drain and fill, but don't flush it. If not that, check your battery and parking brake actuator.

FWIW I have been told by the dealer and a few BMW Techs, that "These are sealed lifetime transmissions. You can't drain and fill (I asked for them to do it as preventative maintenance) and if you could or did, you would void the warranty." And also "Do not touch the transmission unless it is acting up (more than a simple CEL code)"

The same tech told me that the Drivetrain/Transmission Malfunction was due to the battery age and not being able to correctly operate the start/stop function...

BunkerJ · 03-14-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46

FWIW I have been told by the dealer and a few BMW Techs, that "These are sealed lifetime transmissions. You can't drain and fill (I asked for them to do it as preventative maintenance) and if you could or did, you would void the warranty." And also "Do not touch the transmission unless it is acting up (more than a simple CEL code)"

The same tech told me that the Drivetrain/Transmission Malfunction was due to the battery age and not being able to correctly operate the start/stop function...

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1016592

CandyRedRC46 · 03-14-2018, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BunkerJ

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1016592

"Transmission GA8HP70Z with N57 engine from 03/2011"

Not sure if that is the same transmission on the +2013 N20's ZF 8 speed autos?

BunkerJ · 03-14-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46

"Transmission GA8HP70Z with N57 engine from 03/2011"

Not sure if that is the same transmission on the +2013 N20's?

00 11 500 Checking/topping up oil level in automatic transmission (GA8HP45Z,GA8HP70Z,GA8HP90Z)

That was just a condition for that transmission.

Billfitz · 03-14-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46

The same tech told me that the Drivetrain/Transmission Malfunction was due to the battery age and not being able to correctly operate the start/stop function...

It's not impossible, and with a six year old car a new battery isn't a bad idea. But I wouldn't pay dealer prices for a battery. You just need to have it registered, and any shop that regularly works on BMW can do that.

CandyRedRC46 · 03-14-2018, 11:22 AM

Hmmm, So I guess the dealer and tech are full of it. I am at 80 k right now. I would definitely like to start doing drain and fills every other couple engine oil changes, as preventative maintenance.

I have been doing this on my old Acura since 150k and I am at 210k now with no issues. But that car is so simple, it would be stupid not to. Just remove drain plug, wipe clean, reinsert drain plug and the pour 3 quarts in through the dip stick. It only adds 5 minutes to a typical engine oil change. The acura transmission system holds about 9 quarts total, so a few 3 quart changes back to back and then a every other few engine oil changes gets the fluid in good shape and keeps it that way.

Billfitz · 03-14-2018, 11:30 AM

Changing the ATF is a PITA, but by no means impossible. IMO changing the fluid without changing the filter is a waste, which means dropping the pan, perhaps even replacing the pan, so I wouldn't be inclined to do this at less than 60k mile intervals.

CandyRedRC46 · 03-14-2018, 12:04 PM

Yeah that sounds fair enough, being that you are changing the pan/filter/gasket/fluid etc....

BunkerJ · 03-14-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46

Hmmm, So I guess the dealer and tech are full of it. I am at 80 k right now. I would definitely like to start doing drain and fills every other couple engine oil changes, as preventative maintenance.

I have been doing this on my old Acura since 150k and I am at 210k now with no issues. But that car is so simple, it would be stupid not to. Just remove drain plug, wipe clean, reinsert drain plug and the pour 3 quarts in through the dip stick. It only adds 5 minutes to a typical engine oil change. The acura transmission system holds about 9 quarts total, so a few 3 quart changes back to back and then a every other few engine oil changes gets the fluid in good shape and keeps it that way.

To say the least, yes. They have to follow what BMW tells them, just like the timing chain guide issue. If it can be done for preventative maintenance, then I agree it should be done.

hakisalapaki · 11-01-2018, 07:27 AM

dear friends,
now i am back after 7 months,with same problem again.(will not shift into reverse or drive,goes back to P) first of all thank you all for suggestions.
I have to inform there is no error code listing after malfunction.Secondly i found that this problem accours only in winter time.
third: i found a solution,if i step on the gas 2-3 times over 3000 rpm,then i can shift again,till next morning all the day without failure.
any suggestions?

insanecoder · 11-01-2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hakisalapaki

dear friends,
now i am back after 7 months,with same problem again.(will not shift into reverse or drive,goes back to P) first of all thank you all for suggestions.
I have to inform there is no error code listing after malfunction.Secondly i found that this problem accours only in winter time.
third: i found a solution,if i step on the gas 2-3 times over 3000 rpm,then i can shift again,till next morning all the day without failure.
any suggestions?

how did you check the solenoids?
has th tranny fluid been changed and how often

BunkerJ · 11-01-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hakisalapaki

dear friends,
now i am back after 7 months,with same problem again.(will not shift into reverse or drive,goes back to P) first of all thank you all for suggestions.
I have to inform there is no error code listing after malfunction.Secondly i found that this problem accours only in winter time.
third: i found a solution,if i step on the gas 2-3 times over 3000 rpm,then i can shift again,till next morning all the day without failure.
any suggestions?

Yeah, there has to be something wrong here. Maybe a calibration issue or a sensor. It seems the car won't shift when the transmission fluid is dead cold.

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BunkerJ Colonel 1032 Rep 2,382 Posts Drives: 2013 328i Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Sounds exactly like auto-hold, but not sure if that should shift into park for you: http://www.bavarianmw.com/guide-2506.html May have something to do with your parking brake? __________________ 2013 F30 328i: MHI Big Turbo, GFB DV+, Mishimoto CAI, ER TIC/CP/Catless DP, AWE Touring Quad Exhaust w/ Resonated Midpipe, NGK LI Plugs, BM3 with PTF Stage 2 91 AGG Tune, Fuel-it Stage 2 LPFP, Solowerks S1 Coilovers, and DEPO/M-Sport Retrofit
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Billfitz Lieutenant General 8256 Rep 16,102 Posts Drives: '15 328iX GT Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	If you're going to do your own work you need a code reader, like the Foxwell NT510. Without one you can't identify faults.
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CandyRedRC46 Lieutenant 242 Rep 420 Posts Drives: 2013 328i Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Hmmm, So I guess the dealer and tech are full of it. I am at 80 k right now. I would definitely like to start doing drain and fills every other couple engine oil changes, as preventative maintenance. I have been doing this on my old Acura since 150k and I am at 210k now with no issues. But that car is so simple, it would be stupid not to. Just remove drain plug, wipe clean, reinsert drain plug and the pour 3 quarts in through the dip stick. It only adds 5 minutes to a typical engine oil change. The acura transmission system holds about 9 quarts total, so a few 3 quart changes back to back and then a every other few engine oil changes gets the fluid in good shape and keeps it that way. Last edited by CandyRedRC46; 03-14-2018 at 11:28 AM..
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Billfitz Lieutenant General 8256 Rep 16,102 Posts Drives: '15 328iX GT Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Changing the ATF is a PITA, but by no means impossible. IMO changing the fluid without changing the filter is a waste, which means dropping the pan, perhaps even replacing the pan, so I wouldn't be inclined to do this at less than 60k mile intervals.
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hakisalapaki Private 12 Rep 50 Posts Drives: BW 2012 F30 Join Date: May 2016 Location: istanbul iTrader: (0)	dear friends, now i am back after 7 months,with same problem again.(will not shift into reverse or drive,goes back to P) first of all thank you all for suggestions. I have to inform there is no error code listing after malfunction.Secondly i found that this problem accours only in winter time. third: i found a solution,if i step on the gas 2-3 times over 3000 rpm,then i can shift again,till next morning all the day without failure. any suggestions?
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