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      05-27-2017, 09:53 AM   #1
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Auto break in oil change

I've made the decision to keep my car long term so I want to do an early oil/filter change on the auto transmission.

Problem #1 is if I have the dealer do it, then they won't change it when it's due under my 100k maintenance plan. Plus this is likely a $1000 service at the dealer. Part of that cost is the oil filter is part of the pan, and the dealer will charge at least $350 for the pan and I can get one for $150 online.

Do it my self cost would be less than $400 But I don't think I will be able to get %100 of the fuid out. Not sure I need to tho

What would an Indy shop be able to do that I can't do my self? My understanding is they have machines that can flush more fluid out. IE whats left in the torque converter...

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      05-27-2017, 11:03 AM   #2
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The shops with the flush machines can pretty much flush everything out. The machines basically connect to a tranny line and keeps feeding clean fluid in as it collects the old fluid. They don't even drop the pan for it.

I'm not familiar with BMWs so you saying the oil filter is part of the pan has me confused. Are you saying that the oil filter housing has to be replaced to drop the transmission pan? Even if it is part of the pan, can't you reuse it and just replace a gasket?
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The pan is plastic with the filter as part of it. In other words the pan IS the filter.

Being that it is plastic im not sure if I would want to risk reuse.
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The shops with the flush machines can pretty much flush everything out. The machines basically connect to a tranny line and keeps feeding clean fluid in as it collects the old fluid. They don't even drop the pan for it.

I'm not familiar with BMWs so you saying the oil filter is part of the pan has me confused. Are you saying that the oil filter housing has to be replaced to drop the transmission pan? Even if it is part of the pan, can't you reuse it and just replace a gasket?
Here is a link to the combination pan/filter kit: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/24118612901/

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A few places have it much cheaper

Can be found for about $150

http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/ZF-24118612901
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A few places have it much cheaper

Can be found for about $150

http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/ZF-24118612901
That is an equivalent non-BMW part, probably the same and likely from the same factory, but not the OEM BMW part. Likely just the box and BMW logo and part number are the only difference, though.
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BMW doesn't make the transmission, ZF does. Unless BMW makes them under license from ZF? Makes me wounder if ZF lets BMW put their stamp all over it? Doubt it, only way to know is look under the car.

The part above is made by the people that make the transmission so that makes it an OEM part? Only way to know is look under the car, im pretty sure its the same part you would get from BMW tho.
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It would only be an issue if BMW had specified ZF to manufacture to a different spec, normally wouldn't be the case, but not unknown (for example the specific 10w60 TWS oil Castrol manufactured for BMW for ///M Cars that was different than their standard 10w60). I would check that the BMW OEM part has the same ZF part number on it somewhere as the ZF non-BMW-specific part, to be sure BMW doesn't require a non-standard spec.
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Love the Caterham BTW
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Love the Caterham BTW
Thanks for that, it is the hardcore fun car, especially with the windshield off and carbon aeroscreen fitted. 545kg (1200lbs) and 210bhp makes it quite lively.
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Beautiful! That thing has to be a blast.
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The pan is plastic with the filter as part of it. In other words the pan IS the filter.

Being that it is plastic im not sure if I would want to risk reuse.
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The pan is plastic with the filter as part of it. In other words the pan IS the filter.

Being that it is plastic im not sure if I would want to risk reuse.
WTH? Has they really gotten that cheap where they're using disposable pans?


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Here is a link to the combination pan/filter kit: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/24118612901/
Is that a drain plug I see in the plastic pan? If so, I wonder how feasible it would be to do a periodic drain and fill...
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Is that a drain plug I see in the plastic pan? If so, I wonder how feasible it would be to do a periodic drain and fill...
Yes it is drain plug. The engine oil pan is the same style plastic pan and plug. Unless you have xdrive, my understanding is xdrive cars have metal pans.
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Yes it is drain plug. The engine oil pan is the same style plastic pan and plug. Unless you have xdrive, my understanding is xdrive cars have metal pans.
I've got the xDrive... and I hope I have metal pans with a drain plug. If so, I just need to know how to fill the transmission... This way, I can drain and fill..
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A few places have it much cheaper

Can be found for about $150

http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/ZF-24118612901
RealOEM shows the part you listed can be exchanged with part 24117624192. Part 24117624192 is cheaper .. $128 at ECS ... and it has a magnet, where 24118612901 does not.
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Contact ZF directly. Here's the link: https://www.zf.com/corporate/en_de/m...-inquiries.jsp
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