[speedychuck2]

As title. I Have an early CIC with bmw online and BMW assist. I want to fit a combox telematics instead of my tcu but don't want to lose the assist features.

Is there anybody connected enough on here in the BMW world to be able to update the info on BMW's database to what's required so that I can install the combox and still keep my existing services?

Thanks.

[E60525d]

As far as i'm aware, its not possible. You will need to contact BMW to swap the VIN from your current TCU to the combox which they wont do.

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by E60525d

As far as i'm aware, its not possible. You will need to contact BMW to swap the VIN from your current TCU to the combox which they wont do.

Apparently some people have managed it. I've never seen it from anyone in the UK, but on here over time I've read a few posts of success.

It just takes the right person at bmw to do it! I was hoping someone on here would have conections.

[E60525d]

I used to have a BMW assist account and I honestly don't think it's worth the £110 a year cost.

You get Bmw live with a combox anyway. The only other feature is the concierge system.

[Scrippy]

There are no services available for telematics unless you are eligible for the hardware upgrade setup. With combox this will not ever be possible moving forward unless you are buddy's with the CEO of BMW. Why would you want to retain telematics when combox can use the hotspot on your phone for all services except concierge and remote unlock. If you want that stuff just upgrade to NBT.

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

There are no services available for telematics unless you are eligible for the hardware upgrade setup. With combox this will not ever be possible moving forward unless you are buddy's with the CEO of BMW. Why would you want to retain telematics when combox can use the hotspot on your phone for all services except concierge and remote unlock. If you want that stuff just upgrade to NBT.

I use the remote unlock all of the time, that's the feature I like the most and wanted to retain.

Does the combox use the phone's 3G connection as it's data link instead? I want to be able to use spotify in the car and control it from the head unit, that's why I was looking at the combox.

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by speedychuck2

I use the remote unlock all of the time, that's the feature I like the most and wanted to retain.

Does the combox use the phone's 3G connection as it's data link instead? I want to be able to use spotify in the car and control it from the head unit, that's why I was looking at the combox.

The combox uses your phones hotspot. The speed is only an issue for the internet in connected drive which is awesome if you live in 1996 and have a dial up modem. In current times combox is only good for BT audio, BT phone, music & album art, movie playback in iPhone, text display in iDrive and maybe BMW live.

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

The combox uses your phones hotspot. The speed is only an issue for the internet in connected drive which is awesome if you live in 1996 and have a dial up modem. In current times combox is only good for BT audio, BT phone, music & album art, movie playback in iPhone, text display in iDrive and maybe BMW live.

Are you saying I can play movies from my iPhone on my idrive screen with combox? That's got to be worth having.

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by speedychuck2

Are you saying I can play movies from my iPhone on my idrive screen with combox? That's got to be worth having.

Yes. Not full screen though720x480

[ptpending]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

Yes. Not full screen though720x480

and only from Iphone 4S or similar ipod touch, which have analog video output

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by ptpending

and only from Iphone 4S or similar ipod touch, which have analog video output

Correct sir. You do not need the snap in adapter. I have and old 64gig 4s in my glove box plugged into the iPhone cable with analog outputs. Audio are spliced into aux and video is ran to back of CIC. The 4s uses my iPhone 7's hotspot for connected drive features like internet radio. The 4s is loaded with movies and music so I can access them from iDrive and never touch the phone. I also coded in TV so I can watch Netflix or other apps that use iPhone video out. Netflix is the only reason I actually touch the iPhone. I'm probably going to add bimmertechs smartview next.

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

Correct sir. You do not need the snap in adapter. I have and old 64gig 4s in my glove box plugged into the iPhone cable with analog outputs. Audio are spliced into aux and video is ran to back of CIC. The 4s uses my iPhone 7's hotspot for connected drive features like internet radio. The 4s is loaded with movies and music so I can access them from iDrive and never touch the phone. I also coded in TV so I can watch Netflix or other apps that use iPhone video out. Netflix is the only reason I actually touch the iPhone. I'm probably going to add bimmertechs smartview next.

So if you do have the snap in adaptor, could you watch Netflix? I'm not really up for splicing. But if I can do it without then I'll buy the bits. Having Netflix would be way more handy than remote unlock or concierge!

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by speedychuck2

So if you do have the snap in adaptor, could you watch Netflix? I'm not really up for splicing. But if I can do it without then I'll buy the bits. Having Netflix would be way more handy than remote unlock or concierge!

If it's the "media" snap in adapter yes. That adapter has a video wire going to CIC.

[ptpending]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

If it's the "media" snap in adapter yes. That adapter has a video wire going to CIC.

media snap-in and complete 6NF wiring, from factory or retrofitted

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by ptpending

media snap-in and complete 6NF wiring, from factory or retrofitted

My car already has the 6NF option.

Before I go ahead and start ordering, I still need the combox for the playing of videos? Not just the media snap in adaptor?

My option list is below if that helps.

Thanks.



1CA Selection Cop Relevant Vehicles Selektion Cop Relevanter Fahrzeuge
1CB Co2 Content Co2 Umfang
1CD Brake Energy Regeneration Brake Energy Regeneration
2MR M Alloy Wheels Doublesp. 261 M/mb M Lm Raeder Doppelsp. 261 M / Mb
2PA Locking Wheel Bolts Radschraubensicherung
230 Eu Specific Additional Equipment Eu Spezifische Zusatzumfaenge
249 Multi-function For Steering Wheel Multifunktion Fuer Lenkrad
258 Runflat Tyres Bereifung Mit Notlaufeigenschaften
302 Alarm System Alarmanlage
337 M Sport Package M Sportpaket
4MG Int. Trim Fin. Alu Glacier Silver Interieurleisten Alu Glaciersilber
420 Sun Protection Glazing Sonnenschutzverglasung
423 Floor Mats, Velour Fussmatten In Velours
428 Warning Triangle Warndreieck
431 Interior Rr Vw Mirror W Aut Anti-d Innenspiegel,automatisch Abblendend
441 Smokers Package Raucherpaket
470 Child Seat Isofix Attachment Kindersitzbefestigung Isofix
473 Armrest, Front Armauflage Vorn
488 Lumbar Support Driver/front Passenger Lordosenstuetze Fahrer/beifahrer
493 Storage Compartment Package Ablagenpaket
494 Seat Heating F Driver/front Passenger Sitzheizung Fuer Fahrer/beifahrer
5DC Folding Rear-seat Headrests Fondkopfstuetzen Klappbar
502 Headlight Washer System Scheinwerfer-waschanlage
507 Park Distance Control (pdc), Rear Park Distance Control (pdc), Hinten
521 Rain Sensor Regensensor
522 Xenon Light Xenon-licht
534 Automatic Air Conditioning Klimaautomatik
540 Cruise Control Geschwindigkeitsregelung
563 Lights Package Lichtpaket
6AA Bmw Teleservices Bmw Teleservices
6AB Control Teleservices Steuerung Teleservices
6FL Usb-/audio Interface Usb-audio-schnittstelle
6NF Ext.con.of The Music Play.i.mobilph Music-schnittstelle Fuer Smartphone
609 Navigation System Professional Navigationssystem Professional
612 Bmw Assist Bmw Assist
615 Extended Bmw Online Information Erweiterte Bmw Online Information
616 Bmw Online Bmw Online
620 Voice Input System Spracheingabesystem
633 Prep.mob. Ph. Business Bluet.interf. Handy Vorb. Business/bluetooth-sch.
677 Hifi System Professional Hifi System Professional
698 Area-code 2 Area-code 2
710 M Leather Steering Wheel M Lederlenkrad
760 Individual High-gloss Satin Chrome Individual Hochglanz Shadow Line
775 Individual Roof-lining Anthracite Individual Dachhimmel Anthrazit
8SC Country Spec. Release Of Teleservice Laenderspez. Teleservicefreisch.
8SM Vin, Visible From Outside Fahrgestellnummer,v.aussen Sichtbar
8SP Cop Control Cop Steuerung
8S2 Coding Of Alarm Signal Kodierung Alarmsignal
8S3 Automatic Lock When Driving Away Autom. Verriegelung Beim Anfahren
812 England Version England/irland Ausfuehrung
850 Add Fuel Tank Filling For Export Zusaetzl. Tankfuellung Export
863 Europe/dealer Directory Service Kontakt-flyer Europa
877 Deletion Cross-over Operation
880 English / On-board Documentation Englisch / Bordliteratur

[ptpending]

i haven't seen pre-combox car with 6NF before, so i do not know, if your baseplate have video out wire
so you might need
combox with updated connector housing
MEDIA snap-in for 4S
cradle for combox 6NF
update AUX socket with 6-pin socket for correct audio switching
FBAS (3-wire shielded) cable from cradle to CIC

[speedychuck2]

Thank you. Maybe I'll just get the adaptor and give it a try. Those snap in adaptors are not too expensive now for the older iphones. If there's a possibility it could work then it's worth a try.

My car is a bit of an oddball I think. Must be one of the earlier cars to end up with CIC. Shame I missed out on the combox.

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by ptpending

media snap-in and complete 6NF wiring, from factory or retrofitted

It's only the video wires for 6nf, nothing more.

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

It's only the video wires for 6nf, nothing more.

Sorry for so many questions, but there seems to be a ton of knowledge on here regarding idrive so I'd like to get as much info as possible.

So even though I have 6nf, I may not have the video feed from the snap in adaptor to the cic? And if I get the video feed installed, I don't need a combox to watch the video?

Thanks again.

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by speedychuck2

Sorry for so many questions, but there seems to be a ton of knowledge on here regarding idrive so I'd like to get as much info as possible.

So even though I have 6nf, I may not have the video feed from the snap in adaptor to the cic? And if I get the video feed installed, I don't need a combox to watch the video?

Thanks again.

Your snap in adapter must be the media one. Then the actual snap in must be for whichever phone....I'd use 4s. Just use a 4s and either the media adapter or the iPhone component cable. I personally just got the 4s component cable. Then I spliced the L&R audio into a female RCA to 1/8 audio plug. I also made a female RCA and ran the wires to FBAS connections on CIC. Last plug the USB into the center counsel. The wires can be tucked under the rubber bottom of center counsel. Done. Full apps integration, music and videos all controlled from iDrive but you still require a combox. The combox facilitates browsing of iPhone files and USB and aux operation. CIC just responds to video signal only. All requires coding to function. So here is a summary.......

1-Combox, Media Snap In Adapter and coding
2-Combox, IPhone component cable and coding.

[speedychuck2]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

Your snap in adapter must be the media one. Then the actual snap in must be for whichever phone....I'd use 4s. Just use a 4s and either the media adapter or the iPhone component cable. I personally just got the 4s component cable. Then I spliced the L&R audio into a female RCA to 1/8 audio plug. I also made a female RCA and ran the wires to FBAS connections on CIC. Last plug the USB into the center counsel. The wires can be tucked under the rubber bottom of center counsel. Done. Full apps integration, music and videos all controlled from iDrive but you still require a combox. The combox facilitates browsing of iPhone files and USB and aux operation. CIC just responds to video signal only. All requires coding to function.

Thank you for the in depth reply, that makes a lot of sense. It's the browsing of the iphone I actually need the combox for then, plus the other obvious benefits it brings.

Has anybody managed to just code a composite video-in/audio in to cic without the combox? It strikes me this could be quite handy too. It's a shame cic wont play video media files straight off of usb.

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by speedychuck2

Thank you for the in depth reply, that makes a lot of sense. It's the browsing of the iphone I actually need the combox for then, plus the other obvious benefits it brings.

Has anybody managed to just code a composite video-in/audio in to cic without the combox? It strikes me this could be quite handy too. It's a shame cic wont play video media files straight off of usb.

No point, because you'd still need a way to facilitate audio. I don't think the mulf2hi works with TV coding or anything that would let you use video on CIC.