Any physios on here??

ajfoggy · 03-21-2017, 03:53 PM

I'll be expecting the jokes.....

I'm having terrible problems with my left arm. First noticed it a little last year with pins and neddles in my little finger and ring fingers, generally after walking they would just feel a little odd.

Lately i seem to be having a lot of what feels like nerve pain around elbow, wrist and potentially neck into shoulder.

Keep putting off going to doc but it's getting to the point now where i can't grip things properly or lift things. More importantly cleaning the car wheels is extremely painful. Also wake up at night in pain with it.

I thought maybe tennis elbow but not sure if that would affect wrist and should?

Going to book docs at some point this week and get referred but thought I'd check if anyone has had similar?

Broncho · 03-21-2017, 04:01 PM

Yep I've just got over similar, it's was painful as fuck, couldn't hold anything tightly and my elbow was ragging, eventually went in to my shoulder.

I went to the doctors and he said straight away golfers elbow, I thought he was having a laugh but apparently that's what it was with me.

The pain in my hand and wrist at one point was stopping me sleeping, it started just after Christmas and is only pretty much eased off now.

ETA have a read of this http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...s-elbow-basics

ajfoggy · 03-21-2017, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncho

Yep I've just got over similar, it's was painful as fuck, couldn't hold anything tightly and my elbow was ragging, eventually went in to my shoulder.

I went to the doctors and he said straight away golfers elbow, I thought he was having a laugh but apparently that's what it was with me.

The pain in my hand and wrist at one point was stopping me sleeping, it started just after Christmas and is only pretty much eased off now.

ETA have a read of this http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...s-elbow-basics

Nice one, that pretty much confirms my thinking then. The problem is I don't play golf or tennis and suspect that this is from work using three different computers at the one desk. Will have to have words at work as well!

Cheers!

JLR1969 · 03-21-2017, 05:15 PM

How old is your mattress

ajfoggy · 03-21-2017, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JLR1969

How old is your mattress

About 5 years.

JLR1969 · 03-21-2017, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

About 5 years.

It may be worth sleeping in another room for a few night to see if this is contributing, I used to wake up with a painful shoulder and numb arm and it was the mattress that was not supporting me properly.

Rukka · 03-22-2017, 02:29 AM

There is a main nerve runs down the left arm (radial nerve I think it's called) can cause all sorts of pain. When you get an episode, see if you lose feeling just on one side of your left middle and ring fingers?

Years ago I had similar and ended up at a good sports physio who diagnosed stuck vertebrae in the neck.
As the neck couldn't move properly, other muscles were trying to compensate and causing pressure on the nerve which it turn caused the pain and numbness.

I do regular neck stretching exercises now to stop the sticking in the neck and keep it at bay.

Get to the docs mate and ask him to refer you. Probably something really simple and not worth worrying yourself for something that can be fixed easily.

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rossm · 03-22-2017, 03:43 AM

I had this last year after doing some decorating, probably overstretching a bit on roller and brush strokes. It came on shortly afterwards and got worse to the point where I couldn't lift a kettle of water in my right arm. It's healed on it's own but it's taken 7 or 8 months

ajfoggy · 03-22-2017, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rukka

There is a main nerve runs down the left arm (radial nerve I think it's called) can cause all sorts of pain. When you get an episode, see if you lose feeling just on one side of your left middle and ring fingers?

Years ago I had similar and ended up at a good sports physio who diagnosed stuck vertebrae in the neck.
As the neck couldn't move properly, other muscles were trying to compensate and causing pressure on the nerve which it turn caused the pain and numbness.

I do regular neck stretching exercises now to stop the sticking in the neck and keep it at bay.

Get to the docs mate and ask him to refer you. Probably something really simple and not worth worrying yourself for something that can be fixed easily.

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Hmm that could explain the neck and should part of it was well then. I shall get booked in. Cheers.

betty02 · 03-22-2017, 03:57 AM

I'm no physio but one of my close friends is and she is very good. I see her 3 times a week. Mainly due to the amount of rugby I play!

I would certainly say this needs a doc trip though sounds more like nerve damage which needs to be checked out, could be getting trapped by over worked muscles somewhere else in the body - as mentioned neck.

Your best to get it checked by a doc, referred, few nerve tests etc and then probably a course of deep tissue massages! Not uncommon so should be quite a breeze through the NHS.

Try and just keep it moving!

SonicDad · 03-22-2017, 07:54 AM

Let's get this right....you are asking for advice from a bunch of car nuts who take off perfectly good OEM BMW designed parts and swap them for something found on eBay and made in China??....hope you get it sorted ?

MrChumley · 03-22-2017, 02:17 PM

I get similar to you and Rukka.

Physio puts it down to crap posture and too much time on the laptop (I'm actually making a personal sacrifice to answer your post).

Bit of self-awareness and some stretching generally keeps it under control but you do need it looking at cos if you stretch the wrong things, or in the wrong position, you could make things a lot worse.

And if you can find a physio on the NHS in less than six months you're a lucky man. For the sake of a hundred quid, I'd recommend a couple of private visits to a good sports physio.

sygazelle · 03-22-2017, 02:27 PM

You say you sit at a desk and you juggle between three computers. It's possible that the ergonomics of your work space is contributing or the whole cause of your problem. One of the main thinks is that your forearms are parallel when your hands are on the keyboard, not upward Also, a good ergonomic chair is helpful.

Here's another little thing that can cause a lot of grief. Do you carry your wallet in your back pocket? If so, it makes you sit a bit crooked. Move your wallet to your front pocket and see if there is a difference.

Warning: If you move your wallet to your front pocket, be sure to remove all the unnecessary items to reduce thickness. You don't want everybody thinking you are glad to see them

I hope its nothing serious. Get to the doctor and get it checked out.

ajfoggy · 03-22-2017, 02:57 PM

Cheers all. Lucky for me I have Bupa through work so had a quick consultation over the phone this morning and I have 8 physio sessions signed. Just got to book them now.

I have theory that this all started off then I switched from a MacBook Air to the Pro. Now this might sound like a small change but if any of you have a MacBook Pro you'll know about that sharpe right angled edge, now that happens to sit right on my wrist. Also using the built in track pad a lot does put you hand and wrist in an awkward position.

I'm thinking I might have caused it through that, this has all come to light a bit after talking to them this morning. So i'm also going to ditch the mac for a bit or change to a mouse and keyboard for it that I can leave at work.

MrChumley · 03-22-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

Cheers all. Lucky for me I have Bupa through work so had a quick consultation over the phone this morning and I have 8 physio sessions signed. Just got to book them now.

I have theory that this all started off then I switched from a MacBook Air to the Pro. Now this might sound like a small change but if any of you have a MacBook Pro you'll know about that sharpe right angled edge, now that happens to sit right on my wrist. Also using the built in track pad a lot does put you hand and wrist in an awkward position.

I'm thinking I might have caused it through that, this has all come to light a bit after talking to them this morning. So i'm also going to ditch the mac for a bit or change to a mouse and keyboard for it that I can leave at work.

Interesting! Mine started soon after getting a Macbook Pro (I had a Toshiba Windows laptop before).

I've managed to find a seating position that works but I know what you mean about the edge and the trackpad. Pretty poor considering how much they cost. It's almost like Cupertino is all form over function.

ajfoggy · 03-22-2017, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrChumley

Interesting! Mine started soon after getting a Macbook Pro (I had a Toshiba Windows laptop before).

I've managed to find a seating position that works but I know what you mean about the edge and the trackpad. Pretty poor considering how much they cost. It's almost like Cupertino is all form over function.

Mine ties in perfectly to when my symptoms started.

If you have a look on web some people of taken a dremel to the edge to make it more comfortable.

http://dustwell.com/macbook-pro-sharp-edge.html

Kal101 · 03-22-2017, 07:05 PM

In tennis elbow the tendons get inflamed due to over extending. Usual treatment is anti inflammatories normally orally but in persistent cases may require steroid injections into the joint.

Only thing that would concern me is the pins and needles that you're getting.

Need to get it checked especially if you've already tried over the counter remedies.

Anyway enough professional advice time for mickey taking - use your other hand or try this

http://www.kinkycherries.co.uk/sex-t...4Z9hoCfUrw_wcB

DThr33 · 03-23-2017, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rukka

There is a main nerve runs down the left arm (radial nerve I think it's called) can cause all sorts of pain. When you get an episode, see if you lose feeling just on one side of your left middle and ring fingers?

Years ago I had similar and ended up at a good sports physio who diagnosed stuck vertebrae in the neck.
As the neck couldn't move properly, other muscles were trying to compensate and causing pressure on the nerve which it turn caused the pain and numbness.

I do regular neck stretching exercises now to stop the sticking in the neck and keep it at bay.

Get to the docs mate and ask him to refer you. Probably something really simple and not worth worrying yourself for something that can be fixed easily.

.

Sounds like this to me too, not a physio or anything but my dad has similar symptoms and he was diagnosed with a herniated disc in his neck. Hopefully the physio sorts you out, wasn't too effective for him unfortunately

Rukka · 03-23-2017, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DThr33

Sounds like this to me too, not a physio or anything but my dad has similar symptoms and he was diagnosed with a herniated disc in his neck. Hopefully the physio sorts you out, wasn't too effective for him unfortunately

Mine was stiction of the vertebra so effectively "cracking" it freed it off again. I do daily exercises now with my back flat against a wall and pull my chin down to the chest whilst keeping the back of my head on the wall. This stretches the neck and keeps it free.

Physic told me that as this sticking happens, the muscles in my neck can't turn the head so a shoulder muscle kicks in to try and help. This muscle then gets overworked and ends up pressing against the radial nerve causing the pain in the left arm and numbness in fingers.

Quite easy to manage once you actually understand what it is.....

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MrChumley · 03-23-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kal027

Anyway enough professional advice time for mickey taking - use your other hand or try this

http://www.kinkycherries.co.uk/sex-t...4Z9hoCfUrw_wcB

Wow, I never knew there was so much choice

Gaz330d · 03-23-2017, 11:40 AM

I had identical symptoms to what you have described.

Started with elbow pain then went on to ring and little finger being numb.

I was diagnosed with Ulnar Nerve Entrapment at the Elbow (Cubital Tunnel Syndrome). Just had my operation for this 6-weeks ago.

Still slightly numb little finger but it will get better as the nerve needs to repair itself.

More info here: http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00069

ajfoggy · 03-23-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaz330d

I had identical symptoms to what you have described.

Started with elbow pain then went on to ring and little finger being numb.

I was diagnosed with Ulnar Nerve Entrapment at the Elbow (Cubital Tunnel Syndrome). Just had my operation for this 6-weeks ago.

Still slightly numb little finger but it will get better as the nerve needs to repair itself.

More info here: http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00069

Nice one ta, how did you get to the point where they decide an op was needed?

I presume they did physio first?

03-21-2017, 03:53 PM	#1
ajfoggy Brigadier General 1517 Rep 3,560 Posts Drives: C63s - S205 - Brilliant Blue Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Warrington iTrader: (0)	Any physios on here?? I'll be expecting the jokes..... I'm having terrible problems with my left arm. First noticed it a little last year with pins and neddles in my little finger and ring fingers, generally after walking they would just feel a little odd. Lately i seem to be having a lot of what feels like nerve pain around elbow, wrist and potentially neck into shoulder. Keep putting off going to doc but it's getting to the point now where i can't grip things properly or lift things. More importantly cleaning the car wheels is extremely painful. Also wake up at night in pain with it. I thought maybe tennis elbow but not sure if that would affect wrist and should? Going to book docs at some point this week and get referred but thought I'd check if anyone has had similar?
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Broncho Banned 2311 Rep 5,101 Posts Drives: Chav white Mercedes Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Rainhill iTrader: (0)	Yep I've just got over similar, it's was painful as fuck, couldn't hold anything tightly and my elbow was ragging, eventually went in to my shoulder. I went to the doctors and he said straight away golfers elbow, I thought he was having a laugh but apparently that's what it was with me. The pain in my hand and wrist at one point was stopping me sleeping, it started just after Christmas and is only pretty much eased off now. ETA have a read of this http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...s-elbow-basics
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Rukka Brigadier General 2647 Rep 3,664 Posts Drives: M4 Comp Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Cheshire (UK) iTrader: (0)	There is a main nerve runs down the left arm (radial nerve I think it's called) can cause all sorts of pain. When you get an episode, see if you lose feeling just on one side of your left middle and ring fingers? Years ago I had similar and ended up at a good sports physio who diagnosed stuck vertebrae in the neck. As the neck couldn't move properly, other muscles were trying to compensate and causing pressure on the nerve which it turn caused the pain and numbness. I do regular neck stretching exercises now to stop the sticking in the neck and keep it at bay. Get to the docs mate and ask him to refer you. Probably something really simple and not worth worrying yourself for something that can be fixed easily. . __________________ Current: M4 G82 Past: C43, X4 M40i, TTS, M4 CP, 440i, 435d, M235i, 220d, F30, E90, E87
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rossm Lieutenant 286 Rep 520 Posts Drives: F40 M135i Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oxford UK iTrader: (0)	I had this last year after doing some decorating, probably overstretching a bit on roller and brush strokes. It came on shortly afterwards and got worse to the point where I couldn't lift a kettle of water in my right arm. It's healed on it's own but it's taken 7 or 8 months
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betty02 First Lieutenant 122 Rep 359 Posts Drives: 316D Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I'm no physio but one of my close friends is and she is very good. I see her 3 times a week. Mainly due to the amount of rugby I play! I would certainly say this needs a doc trip though sounds more like nerve damage which needs to be checked out, could be getting trapped by over worked muscles somewhere else in the body - as mentioned neck. Your best to get it checked by a doc, referred, few nerve tests etc and then probably a course of deep tissue massages! Not uncommon so should be quite a breeze through the NHS. Try and just keep it moving!
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MrChumley Major 453 Rep 1,116 Posts Drives: F33 440i convertible Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: East Midlands iTrader: (0)	I get similar to you and Rukka. Physio puts it down to crap posture and too much time on the laptop (I'm actually making a personal sacrifice to answer your post). Bit of self-awareness and some stretching generally keeps it under control but you do need it looking at cos if you stretch the wrong things, or in the wrong position, you could make things a lot worse. And if you can find a physio on the NHS in less than six months you're a lucky man. For the sake of a hundred quid, I'd recommend a couple of private visits to a good sports physio.
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sygazelle Brigadier General 11421 Rep 3,408 Posts Drives: 2014 328i M-Sport, 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	You say you sit at a desk and you juggle between three computers. It's possible that the ergonomics of your work space is contributing or the whole cause of your problem. One of the main thinks is that your forearms are parallel when your hands are on the keyboard, not upward Also, a good ergonomic chair is helpful. Here's another little thing that can cause a lot of grief. Do you carry your wallet in your back pocket? If so, it makes you sit a bit crooked. Move your wallet to your front pocket and see if there is a difference. Warning: If you move your wallet to your front pocket, be sure to remove all the unnecessary items to reduce thickness. You don't want everybody thinking you are glad to see them I hope its nothing serious. Get to the doctor and get it checked out.
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ajfoggy Brigadier General 1517 Rep 3,560 Posts Drives: C63s - S205 - Brilliant Blue Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Warrington iTrader: (0)	Cheers all. Lucky for me I have Bupa through work so had a quick consultation over the phone this morning and I have 8 physio sessions signed. Just got to book them now. I have theory that this all started off then I switched from a MacBook Air to the Pro. Now this might sound like a small change but if any of you have a MacBook Pro you'll know about that sharpe right angled edge, now that happens to sit right on my wrist. Also using the built in track pad a lot does put you hand and wrist in an awkward position. I'm thinking I might have caused it through that, this has all come to light a bit after talking to them this morning. So i'm also going to ditch the mac for a bit or change to a mouse and keyboard for it that I can leave at work.
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Gaz330d Private First Class 45 Rep 145 Posts Drives: BMW F40 M135i xDrive Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I had identical symptoms to what you have described. Started with elbow pain then went on to ring and little finger being numb. I was diagnosed with Ulnar Nerve Entrapment at the Elbow (Cubital Tunnel Syndrome). Just had my operation for this 6-weeks ago. Still slightly numb little finger but it will get better as the nerve needs to repair itself. More info here: http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00069 Last edited by Gaz330d; 03-23-2017 at 11:47 AM..
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